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<win8linux[m]> Web+ seems rather forgetful of logged-in accounts in certain places.
<nephele> Yes, known issue
<win8linux[m]> Is it due to Web+ not using the keyring?
<win8linux[m]> Falkon asks for keyring access and it seems to have no issues with retaining login details.
<nephele> no
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<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a5c8d3143fe8...d4c1a1424778
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] jackburton79 d4c1a14 - BeScreenCapture: bump version (#6743)
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<Anarchos> network is really slow on haiku since i updated yesterday
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<Spaceboy1010> is it always this quiet?
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<nephele> what is?
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55960] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=92030a4a60bc+%5Ec1c3f9812bcc
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 92030a4a60bc - Revert "vfs: functions to change a vnode busy status and ID"
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<Spaceboy1010> Can anybody tell me (roughly) when beta 4 is coming?
<waddlesplash> "when it's ready"
<waddlesplash> we have a number of regressions to sort through and some other things to work on
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<behemouth> hi
<AlienSoldier> I can safely say it will happen before the end of the century :)
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<Spaceboy1010> ok
<AlienSoldier> I am not very aware of the current blocker for that particualr beta
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<Millsy> hi
<Spaceboy1010> Anybody here that uses Haiku daily, how is it? Is it fast or slow (on your hardware)? Does it crash much? Do you think it's "ripe" yet?
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<Cian> There's some fairly severe things with the b4 tags on trac, e.g. this https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17595
<waddlesplash> Spaceboy1010: it's quite responsive as a rule. crashes are getting better, it's getting rather rare to run into any on systems that can boot successfully.
<Spaceboy1010> Ok
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<phschafft> as a total outsider: the specific questions asked in this channel regarding technical problems are on such a high level, that it seems that fundamentals are very well covered.
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<AlienSoldier> Spaceboy1010 i do, it is very usable stability wise. pretty much never get corruption these days. The main problem is that you have to be very inventive with the way you use browsers.
<Spaceboy1010> Ok
<AlienSoldier> you might even get more degree of liberty if you use 64bit because of the Falkon Browser (i don't as i am still in 32bit land)
<Spaceboy1010> I'm considering installing it on an old Gateway computer.
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<AlienSoldier> It is the best on old machine
<Cian> just not *too* old. How old is the Gateway?
<Spaceboy1010> 2014
<Cian> the brand left here at least a decade ago but I think its lasted longer elsewhere
<Cian> 2014 should be fine
<Spaceboy1010> It's a Gateway SX-2110G
<AlienSoldier> hehe, old for me is under 600Mhz PIII
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<AlienSoldier> I think one could cover the entire earth if all the mag ads for Gateway were kept.
<Cian> you might have some quirks with audio but it looks like it should work otherwise.
<Cian> the gateway logo was still on the side of their assembly plant here a year or so ago. closed when I was a kid
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<AlienSoldier> was the plant painted with holsteen motif?
<Cian> it barely survived in to that era so no
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<Cian> hah, the outline of the logo is STILL there
<Cian> https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.4033269,-6.2326767,3a,26.2y,92.05h,96.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHAoCA8Si-56lj3v3UGfpvg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
<AlienSoldier> another instance where our browsers fail
<Cian> can't see what NIC is in that PC as the spec sheet won't load in my non-haiku browser
<AlienSoldier> ho, otter finnaly loaded it
<Cian> but most 2014 hw works.
<Spaceboy1010> ok
<AlienSoldier> otter: 1 web+: 0 on that one
<Spaceboy1010> Will there ever be something like OTVDM for Haiku so we can run 16-bit BeOS programs on 64-bit Haiku?
<PulkoMandy> there are no 16 bit BeOS programs, BeOS was always 32bit
<Spaceboy1010> Huh, i always heard that they were 16 bit
<Cian> there is no WoW-equivalent to run 32 bit BeOS programmes on 64 bit Haiku (Currently) which is what you may have heard
<Spaceboy1010> ok
<Cian> but BeOS was always 32bit, Pentium class minimum on Intel and gen-2 PowerPC (603+)
<nephele> HoH :)
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<Cian> there are device IDs for Pentium Overdrive 486 drop-ins in Pulse but I have a suspicion that you'd have severe trouble with the other required HW to get even R3 going there.
<Cian> but it will run on a Pentium 75 anyway. exceptionally ancient irrelevance
<PulkoMandy> I almost added code to Pulse to use an older version of the Intel logo for these old machines
<Spaceboy1010> gtg, thanks!
<Cian> the better chipsets of the era supported up to 512MB so you might be able to get the slowest booting post-PM Haiku instance ever
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<nephele> You can also unpack and not use the package manager, but at some point you may be bezter served to just use something else
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<AlienSoldier> Perhaps he was mixing BeOS and OS/2. OS/2 allowed to run win 3.11 app natively if i remember.
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<Cian> you'd likely be better served just using R5 on PII and lower class machines. Haiku won't run well enough to give you much extra functionality; and browsers are going to be mostly out anyway
<Cian> better USB support is about all you'd gain
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<Cian> (for the possibly single USB 1.1 port you have)
<AlienSoldier> agreed
<AlienSoldier> bitmap icon alone give better responsiveness
<AlienSoldier> and i have an R5 image with USB2
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55961] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7a52ac780b79+%5E92030a4a60bc
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 7a52ac780b79 - ipro1000: Upgrade to FreeBSD 13.1.
<Cian> PIII class machines you've got USB, ACPI may make it generally work better, there may be better driver support etc
<AlienSoldier> USB2 comming from openbeos of couser
<Cian> I need to dig up some ancient builds to get those various bits that can be glued back to R5. You could pull the entire IDE support over also I think albeit it broke a lot of stuff that also needed replacing. diskprobe, the CD player and burner apps etc
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<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d4c1a1424778...c4dbd3e3c72e
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash c4dbd3e - media-libs: Drop jpeg entirely in favor of libjpeg-turbo.
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<Pulko2> waddlesplash: works perfectly, I'm online
<waddlesplash> :D
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<Vidrep_64> Hi waddlesplash
<waddlesplash> hello
<Vidrep_64> I've been doing a bunch of read/writes to NTFS drives lately. Your fix is working well
<Vidrep_64> You probably thought I was going to give you bad news, eh? :)
<waddlesplash> It tends to happen more often than not :-p
<Vidrep_64> No doubt
<Vidrep_64> I cought a bit of the discussion earlier today about WebKit. Who's going to take over, since PulkoMandy seems uninterested in maintaining it?
<Vidrep_64> *caught
<waddlesplash> we'll see what happens
<waddlesplash> maybe me, if Falkon doesn't work out
<nekobot2> [haiku/buildtools] 5db2362242d8 - haiku: allow passing -pthread as a no-op.
<nekobot2> [haiku/buildtools] jessicah pushed 1 commit to master [btrev43190] - https://git.haiku-os.org/buildtools/log/?qt=range&q=5db2362242d8+%5E795d2053a07f
<phschafft> hm.
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<Spaceboy1010> I'm working on porting 7-zip to Haiku, and I decided to do the icon first. Can I get your feedback on it? https://u.cubeupload.com/Spaceboy1010/7zipHaiku.png
<Spaceboy1010> I have an SVG version, but Cubeupload doesn't like those files.
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