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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bd1623d73b48...28e0dbff0be7
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 28e0dbf - Octave: Use Noto Sans Mono font by default
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<trungnt2910[m]> `g++` seems strange:... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ILVveXuFqQCNfMYQanhSofiu)
<trungnt2910[m]> According to the docs:
<trungnt2910[m]> > `-nostdinc++`
<trungnt2910[m]> > Do not search for header files in the C++-specific standard directories, but do still search the other standard directories. (This option is used when building the C++ library.)
<trungnt2910[m]> No, actually `g++` did find `link.h`, but could not resolve the `Elf_` symbols, only when `-nostdinc++` is specified.
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/ea7f4f7f7dfb...2285f72abad6
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 2285f72 - haikuporter/SourceFetcher: Create target directory before extraction
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/28e0dbff0be7...6dada8f2e0a0
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6dada8f - Ocatave: use kpty terminal
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: you need a different header for Elf stuff
<waddlesplash> specifically ... elf.h
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<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "specifically ... elf.h" <- I thought link.h on Haiku was meant to be some kind of compatibility header which in turn `#include`s `<os/kernel/elf.h>`?
<waddlesplash> only under _DEFAULT_SOURCE
<waddlesplash> #include <features.h> first
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<waddlesplash> Haiku is stricter than most about headers and namespaces
<waddlesplash> we really leave a lot of stuff out of namespaces that glibc or even musl will enable by default despite it being nonstandard
<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "only under _DEFAULT_SOURCE" <- So the macro is enabled by default for a blank C++ file with only <link.h>?
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<waddlesplash> it may be, depending on what pragmas GCC enables by default.
<waddlesplash> I can't actually remember
<waddlesplash> one of the -dump flags should display everything
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<trungnt2910[m]> Oh no...
<trungnt2910[m]> Last time I compiled I `#include`ed `<iostream>`
<trungnt2910[m]> Removed the `<iostream>` and errors start popping up.
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<augiedoggie> those multi line messages don't show up directly in IRC, so pinging someone in the middle of the message might not work
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<jadedctrl_> morning, Begasus o/
<Begasus> morning jadedctrl_ !
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<Begasus> long time no "see" ;)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56132] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=143253c87339+%5E956f45070d5b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 143253c87339 - DeskCalc: Fix Locale-aware display
<jadedctrl_> andd good night, it's after 1am in my time zone :P
<Begasus> :P
<Begasus> how pogger doing?
<Begasus> how's*
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<jadedctrl_> I've been meaning to add support for some of those google news clones
<jadedctrl_> butt I just use normal RSS, so motivation is low for that haha
<Begasus> haven't checked in a while there
<Begasus> only catkeys updated since last srcGitRev ... ;)
<Begasus> Time for the dogs ... g'night jadedctrl_ :)
<jadedctrl_> cheers :)
<jessicah> trungnt2910[m]: look at libunwind on my github
<jessicah> it reuses the existing implementation for android by adding map_ functions
<jessicah> it's in the haiku-support branch I believe
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<trungnt2910[m]> Isn't it easier to implement that directly in Haiku using `get_next_image_info`?
<trungnt2910[m]> (Provided that the TLS related fields aren't required)
<trungnt2910[m]> s//-/
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<Not-d5e4> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/b572d615af64...4c388242e2bb
<Not-d5e4> [haiku/website] dominicm00 4c38824 - blog/dominicm: GSoC 2022 introductory post
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<jessicah> trungnt2910[m]: if you can make it work, my other attempts failed, but maybe my maths was wrong
<jessicah> I went with path of least resistance, where /proc/map gave same info as I could get with Haiku native APIs
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6dada8f2e0a0...0443ade5433c
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] phw 0443ade - picard: release 2.8 (#6940)
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0443ade5433c...b041554a4da8
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b041554 - colobot, fix reference to libpng16, libSDL* (#6941)
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b041554a4da8...fa25ebaef339
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus fa25eba - texstudio, bump version (#6942)
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/fa25ebaef339...2c47f2f3230e
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 2c47f2f - uqm, fix references to libpng16 and libSDL* (#6943)
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<NaGERST> Is the 6900XT supported by the radeon driver or is it falling back to VESA?
<NaGERST> deviceid 73BF
<NaGERST> jessicah: Is the fix we talked about a few months ago included in newer builds (for larger ram) or do i have to get it manually set up in modern builds?
<Begasus> nice, TeXstudio on par :)
<NaGERST> another question: Can haiku read spanned ntfs drives? Or is it limited to basic volumes?
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<jessicah> NaGERST: I don't remember what we talked about
<jessicah> and pretty sure NTFS is limited to basic partitions
<NaGERST> the fix was about the boot and having too much ram.
<NaGERST> 256gb ram
<NaGERST> had to boot in safe mode until you supplied a config file
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<NaGERST> 44 cores was perhaps the issue
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<NaGERST> Now i have gotten a new gfx card that is not nvidia based. so i thought i would give haiku another go.
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<jessicah> ohh, it slightly rings a bell
<jessicah> think it was disabling something in the kernel config file?
<jessicah> did you open a ticket?
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<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2c47f2f3230e...4e73a6815b9b
<Not-d5e4> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4e73a68 - netpbm, bump version, cleanup (#6944)
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<Begasus> how is it that buildmaster doesn't suffer from "waiting for package to be ..."? I could kick it! :/
<jessicah> just rm -rf the boot/system stuff in the work dir
<jessicah> buildmaster isn't updating the system installed packages
<jessicah> so the package state between system and workdir doesn't become inconsistent
<x512[m]> It can be very dangerous and cause data loss. Inspect mounted file systems with `df -a` first and unmount packagefs used by haikubuilder.
<x512[m]> rm -rf may cross mount points.
<jessicah> hmm, really? but packagefs is readonly
<nephele> yes, but /system/administrative is not for example
<nephele> and deleting files counts as "user wants to deinstall this package"
<nephele> IIRC the ubuntu version of rm atleast has an option on whether to cross mount points, but Haikus one does not it seems
<nephele> Oh, actually we do have it, i just didnt see it because of its confusing name :D "--one-file-system"
<nephele> "when removing a hierarchy recursively, skip any directory that is on a file system different from that of the corresponding command line argument"
<nephele> Well... this uhh, hopefully it doesn't really check "different file system" but different mount...
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<nephele> x512: if you rm the mounted dir with using the proper name without * it will delete it without having to worry about the mount though
<nephele> so running "rm *; rm -rf *" in that dir /should/ be safe i think... maybe there is mount points deeper though
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<HaikuUser> some dumb questions as I can't duck them right now: are only wireless networks supported so far? and why might WebPositive fail to contact any site?
<HaikuUser> I mean I can connect to this server, so it can't be a DNS issue, right?
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<nephele> Are you asking whether ethernet is supported? If so it is supported
<nephele> It could be a time issue if your clock is set wrong, if it gives a warning about the cert
<nephele> but hard to tell without more info
<Begasus> I usually delete the "administrative" directory in the source/work/system ...path
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<Begasus> that mostly works OK, but sometimes it just doesn't
<nephele> Hi Begasus
<Begasus> hi nephele
<Begasus> been around long enough to know a few things I can try to get a build starting, but as said, sometimes nothing works (like opencv, no matter what I tried ... couldn't get the build to start)
<nephele> The tool should be fixed, it wasts time :)
<Begasus> right!
<Begasus> now checking a build for openmw, it finaly started :) (will take some time)
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<Begasus> next should be plee_the_bear
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<Begasus> then all (I could check) should be OK for libpng16
<HaikuUser> nephele: yes, for some reason I don't get a connection when using ethernet, WiFi works though...
<Begasus> It's mostly the other way HaikuUser ;)
<nephele> For me both ways usually work
<nephele> Begasus: https://xkcd.com/1479/
<nephele> HaikuUser: does webpositive give any error?
<Begasus> lol nephele
<HaikuUser> simply "Error loading (some page): Server not found"
<nephele> can you ping the server=
<HaikuUser> yup
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6ec74693c74f - docs/develop: Document how to build source hpkgs
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56133] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6ec74693c74f+%5E143253c87339
<kallisti5[m]> HaikuUser: what's the exact url you're hitting? Everything looks up here
<HaikuUser> really any url
<HaikuUser> links from the quick tour, the github page, google
<HaikuUser> does it matter if I'm running the live system or not?
<HaikuUser> imo it shouldn't but who knows
<nephele> No, it does not matter
<Begasus> Did you try with Otter?
<HaikuUser> can't try because it doesn't let me install it
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<Andreasraute0211> hello
<HaikuUser> buuuuut for some reason WebPositive just works now
<Begasus> Hi Andreasraute0211
<Begasus> heh
<Andreasraute0211> hello
<Begasus> tried with "pkgman" HaikuUser ?
<Andreasraute0211> is this a live service?
<Andreasraute0211> is somebody out there?
<Begasus> nope ;)
<nephele> Maybe, but it could be we are all chat bots
<Andreasraute0211> 1000101
<HaikuUser> Begasus: tells me that there's no space left on my device
<Begasus> ah, bugger ;)
<nephele> Yes, that is to be expected
<HaikuUser> guess I'll just install to disk
<nephele> the live image is unfortunately not that big, and the filesystem resize is not implemented yet :/
<nephele> other than that the live image is identical to a normal installation
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<HaikuUser> brb
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<Begasus> someone should fix openscenegraph so openmw didn't need to build that one also
<nephele> In what way?
<Begasus> I think the patch there is already working (at least I hope so)
<Begasus> current one is marked broken there
<Begasus> Maybe someone could check a build for openscenegraph with the patch included in openmw :P
<Andreasraute0211> can we run cyberpunk on haiku?
<Begasus> "pkgman search cyberpunk" (in Terminal) or search with HaikuDepot for it?
<Begasus> 38% (this is going to take some time ...
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<Begasus> heh ... just looked up cyberpunk, don't think it will happen soon :)
<Begasus> jikes, problem with using 2 laptops is that you get out of sync with recipes and need to remove some in order to be on par (if you haven't checked in a while there) :P
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<waddlesplash> reported by x512[m]. likely caused by the change merged yesterday
<waddlesplash> guess we missed something in AHCI
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<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "trungnt2910: https://matrix.org/..."; <- Will investigate when I have access to my laptop (probably tomorrow)
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<waddlesplash> I'll probably take care of it before then
<Begasus> Out for a bit, just mentioning that I updated 32bit (nightly) earlier to the mentioned hrev on the forum, booted ok here (VirtualBox)
<Begasus> bbl
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<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "I'll probably take care of it..." <- What's the configuration? I've built it before submitting the patch, booting x86_64 well on VMware.
<waddlesplash> AHCI is SATA
<waddlesplash> so if you configure a SATA disk it will probably reproduce
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56134] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=27f95c84d7e9+%5E6ec74693c74f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aef561c99a13 - AHCI: Adjust memory allocation after recent VM changes.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 27f95c84d7e9 - drivers/audio: Adjust physical memory mapping after recent VM changes.
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<Begasus_32> /sources/openmw-openmw-0.47.0/components/resource/stats.cpp: In member function 'void Resource::StatsHandler::setUpScene(osgViewer::ViewerBase*)':
<Begasus_32> /sources/openmw-openmw-0.47.0/components/resource/stats.cpp:454:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation violation
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<Begasus> ok, not going any further there ...
<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps
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<trungnt2910[m]> <nekobot> "[haiku/haiku] waddlesplash..." <- Should be fixed now, I guess?
<waddlesplash> yep
<trungnt2910[m]> Audio and SATA. The two things my VMware doesn't have 😅
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<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: I actually tested both in VMware
<waddlesplash> HDA has to be configured by editing the VMX
<waddlesplash> SATA of course can be configured in the GUI
<waddlesplash> hmm maybe I should have also tested IDE just to be sure (my VMware install boots off NVMe)
<trungnt2910[m]> waddlesplash: That I know. But VMware doesn't default to SATA iirc.
<trungnt2910[m]> But I've never got audio working on Haiku on VMware, both now and back in 2019.
<waddlesplash> you have to either install OpenSound drivers or switch to hdaudio in the VMX
<waddlesplash> however hdaudio has intermittent hiccups, so it's not precisely "usable"
<waddlesplash> I never investigated why. probably increasing buffer sizes might help
<waddlesplash> or perhaps it's a timing compensation problem
<trungnt2910[m]> OpenSound drivers? It's on HaikuDepot I guess?
<waddlesplash> yes
<trungnt2910[m]> Will try tomorrow, thanks.
<waddlesplash> we do have a native es1370 driver but it doesn't support the es1371 that vmware uses by default iirc
<waddlesplash> the opensound drivers do
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