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<griffpatch> THIS PROJECT IS WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS RIGHT NOW
<griffpatch> SO HELP ME IF THIS DOESN'T PUT WINDBLOWS IN THE GRAVE BY 2030 I'M GONNA GO APE MODE ON MY COMPUTER
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/96f4955d4a7c...da2abbdb0c7f
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes da2abbd - kdewebkit: bump for rebuild
<OrangeBomb> What enthusiasm.
<parnikkapore_m> I wonder who's angry enough with Griff to do this
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<nephele> ermo: just fyi, you asked at 23:00 european time, a bit unlikely to get an answer then
<nephele> You could also comment on getrit that you want to help finish a patch, or on associated tickets
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Begasus> err ... after updating with pkgman full-sync the 32bit install can't boot anymore?
<Begasus> wtf ... bin, apps, develop ... all gone in system directory ...
<Begasus> hrev56093 -> hrev 56094
<Begasus> second try (re-installed hrev56093)
<Begasus> second run OK (with a cold reboot)
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<netpositive> morning
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<Begasus> morning netpositive
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<Begasus_32> /boot/system/apps/LibreOffice> ./LibreOffice\ Writer
<Begasus_32> /boot/system/apps/LibreOffice> no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
<Begasus> eeeps?
<Begasus> Just installed it
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/da2abbdb0c7f...84cbf8ab6519
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 84cbf8a - sanity, force build for x86_gcc2h (#6903)
<Begasus> some packages already exist at /var/buildmaster/haikuports/packages, revision bump required
<Begasus> ... (it's not installable) ... revbump on the way
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/84cbf8ab6519...e4422b75e89e
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e4422b7 - sanity, revbump (#6904)
<Begasus> now you can install it on 32bit :P
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<Begasus> bbl
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e4422b75e89e...34b183f6ff5b
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 34b183f - kolourpaint: bump version
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<Begasus> hm .. going through the PR for ocr fonts with a post-install script, maybe a POST_INSTALL_REQUIRES could be added (like TEST_REQUIRES)?
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<nephele> why?
<nephele> how would that be different from normal requires?
<Begasus> It's not required at runtime or build time
<Begasus> post-install script needs fc-cache, but only after install, so not during build or runtime
<nephele> > The fc-cache command in Linux scans the font directories and build font cache for applications which use fontconfig for their font handling.
<nephele> Do we need this? if so why?
<nephele> Sounds like either the cache shouldnt be needed like that or we should have a daemon watch the dirs to remove that need
<Begasus> That is for the internals :)
<nephele> type fc-cache >&/dev/null && fc-cache -f
<nephele> This is convoluted, just use the posix way
<nephele> command -v fc-cache && fc-cache -f
<Begasus> it still needs fc-cache to be around
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/34b183f6ff5b...c1724345bb56
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes c172434 - kstars: bump version
<nephele> shebang on haiku can be #!sh also
<Begasus> minor detail :)
<nephele> If fc-cache produces cache files for font files why are they not part of the package for example?
<Begasus> I included it in REQUIRES now, was just thinking out loud
<nephele> Yes, my line needs fc-cache but using type like that is the wrong way imo, command -v is specified by posix to check for command existance
<Begasus> Easy fix (don't know the details so I trust your word on that
<Begasus> but having fc-cache in REQUIRES is actually not right, because the fonts "don't" require it
<nephele> I fail to see why updating the fontcincig cache would be required if it isnt installed
<Begasus> I found out what the problem was: xetex uses system fonts and finds them using fontconfig. For fontconfig to find the fonts, its cache needs to be current. The cache needs to be rebuilt with fc-cache -f.
<Begasus> as in the comment?
<nephele> I don't think its a good idea to keep a cache around /always/ because some apps may need it
<nephele> I would keep the optional cache rebuild with checking for the command
<nephele> plus an explicit rebuild when ibstalling fontconfig
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c1724345bb56...96925ab31712
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 96925ab - kwave: bump version
<nephele> then just make apps that need fontconfig depend on it
<nephele> there is no need to make fonts depend on an optional component
<nephele> so, add fontconfig as a dep for xetex if it needs it
<nephele> and add a forced cache rebuild in fontconfigs post install if it isnt there already
<Begasus> Maybe I'm missing the point here, but from jmairboeck's comment the cache isn't updated after installing a new font
<nephele> If fontconfig is not installed there is no need tp update the cache
<nephele> so just use the line that optionally updates the cache, either the one in the comment or the one I provided with command -v
<nephele> no need to add a dependency, it will sinply skip updating the cache if fontconfig is not installed
<Begasus> yeah, but does the new font get picked up after install?
<Begasus> wanted to try earlier with LO (but that seems broken atm?)
<Begasus> should also check with a different font (new) to check this
<nephele> Yes, aslong as every app that needs fontconfig depends on it
<Begasus> OK, seems Pe does, I can see the OCR fonts in there
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<Begasus> nope, not in the recipe ...
<nephele> jnarrboeck also mentioned it on github: "The post-install script should check whether fontconfig is installed and do nothing in case of it missing."
<Begasus> yeah, changed that the the line that is in current for that
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/96925ab31712...0f698ad97355
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 0f698ad - marble: bump version
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<Begasus> in the meantime checkout out git_x86 2.36.1
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0f698ad97355...39a8d689988d
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 39a8d68 - kwrite: bump version
<Begasus> well ... Pe seems to pick up the fonts even without updating the cache
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/39a8d689988d...d6f4efd11054
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d6f4efd - kate: bump version
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d6f4efd11054...605910beaeaa
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 605910b - libssh: fix cmake file
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/605910beaeaa...5dd18b44736c
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 5dd18b4 - zlib: bump version
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<Begasus> heading down, g'night peeps
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<jmairboeck> nephele: I added a comment to my issue on Github after your discussion with Begasus here today: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/6862#issuecomment-1122732614
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<Not> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/0524e509133d...3522607f3cf3
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<Not> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx 3522607 - HaikuDepotServer: update to 1.0.131
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<Spaceboy10> I made this banner in Piskel to promote Haiku. Can I get your opinion on it? https://u.cubeupload.com/Spaceboy1010/haikubanner1png.png
<Spaceboy10> I'm gonna put it in my Cemetech forum siginature
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<rennj> kickban would be nice
<rennj> wake up #haiku
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<ermo[m]> ...
<ermo[m]> Gotta love spam on IRC.
<mmu_man> yay, I guess that means IRC is still used, so it's probably good news
<rennj> the village idiots still ruining it for everyone
<rennj> why we cant have nice things...blah
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<iisi> Retro-active /ignore is nice. All those lines disappeared as soon as I set the ignore-mask!
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<rennj> doesnt change the signal to noise ratio, just tunes a signal/noise out
<rennj> the trolls and their ilk mentality
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<ermo[m]> iisi: is this a client-specific thing?
<rennj> irc2 probably
<rennj> you know /ignore
<rennj> just block it all /ignore *!*@* NOTI CTCP PRIV
<ermo[m]> I don't know how to do that with the matrix -> IRC bridge.
<iisi> Yeah, usually. IRCCloud implements it. I forget which other/normal ones have it.
<kallisti5[m]> lol. "yay the spammers are back on IRC" -- mmu_man
<iisi> I've had "yay!" moments just from stumbling into some other place and noticing an "mmu_man" ID goes there, too.
<iisi> Just because sometimes I try to level up on low level stuffs.
<augiedoggie> oftc does offer a FloodServ bot to take action against them
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there. Whats upppp?
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<Spaceboy10> Are they gone yet?
<Spaceboy10> I have the urge to port haiku to a graphing calculator.
<Spaceboy10> The TI-Nspire CX II seems to have decent specs to run a slimmed down version.
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<Jenna64bit> *_*
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<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5dd18b44736c...d9af3b29beec
<Not> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d9af3b2 - kdsoap: add recipe