<LinuxUserHaiku>
@OscarL i just copied one of critical parts from original image
<LinuxUserHaiku>
using diskprobe\
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ah..
<OscarL>
matt3: Buongiorno. Nice!!! I have an old EPSON printer with scanner.... but the darn thing blocks even the scanner function when out of ink :-( GRRR!!!
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<OscarL>
and as I don't plan to ever buy ink... means I got a brick instead of a tall scanner :-D (might end up ripping it appart just for the motors, PSU, and some minor components)
<matt3>
thanks OscarL
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<OscarL>
I've notice that Sanity shows it as Epson PID 08A6 instead of: EPSON WF-2530... Mmm another thing to add to my ToDo list :-D
<OscarL>
Ah... PID 08A6 seems to be shared: EPSON WF-2520/2530/2540
<matt3>
ok, thanks ;D but it works ... xD
<Begasus>
Hi OscarL , nice that it's working fine :)
<OscarL>
matt3: Cool. But if we can improve the GUI, showing the "human" version of the product ID... that would be better :-D
<matt3>
ok, better ... :D
<OscarL>
Begasus: only thing is... HaikuDepot should REALLY show a progress dialog when installing 48 packages (110 MB) of dependencies :-D LOL
<Begasus>
for CudaText?
<OscarL>
Begasus: yes. That was on a clean install.
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<Begasus>
hmm ... well Qt and python I know (and libqt5pas iirc)
<OscarL>
Not so worried about the number of dependencies... only for the lack of progress shown.
<Begasus>
fighting with setuptools_rust atm
<Begasus>
well, got a wheel package ready in a recipe
<OscarL>
any user will think it something was not right (will do more tests, and see if it merits creating a Trac issue)
<Begasus>
but bumping bcrypt it failing on a(nother?) module
<OscarL>
Begasus: hmm, I understood some of those words, yeah... *nods* :-P
<Begasus>
OscarL, does this ring a bell? setuptools.command.build not found
<Begasus>
all python related :)
<OscarL>
Begasus: sorry, no. Never actually packaged/build anything.
<Begasus>
ah, so just a user :)
<Begasus>
ps, bumped and enabled the serialize package, I can't check here but maybe you could? ;)
<OscarL>
(and Python's package tools are just too many for my little brain)
<Begasus>
but when updating one I get an error no python3.10 package (hence the bumps for python recipes in the last days)
<OscarL>
(Did a pretty large multiplatform project in Python back in the day... but with zero need for packaging other than installing some. Already I forgot most of what I once knew. LOL)
<OscarL>
Begasus: trying to keep up with Python's packages seems a nightmare (or at least a never-ending quest)... I don't envy you :-(
<Begasus>
OscarL, it is, bumped python3.10 the other day, got merged, when checking the next day at repology I saw that they released a new version the same day of the merge :/
<OscarL>
Ouch... and 3.11 is not far in the future.
<OscarL>
(and that release looks *sweet*)
<Begasus>
yeah, but still in development from what I saw
<OscarL>
Isn't it too much effort to have those packages when most of them can be installed via pip?
<OscarL>
I mean... I understand it for packages that require compiled extensions / libraries...
<Begasus>
Never used pip (heck I don't even use python) :)
<OscarL>
but unless the packages are needed for Haiku's build process...
<OscarL>
Python programmers will most likely avoid system-wide packages all together.
<OscarL>
(thus the rise of virtual envs and other alternatives)
<OscarL>
I guess the same applies to any language with it's own package manager (most modern ones, I guess).
<Begasus>
Does pip work OK on Haiku, think I've seen some mentions about it on the forum?
<OscarL>
I managed to use it just fine for installing pyserial, for example.
<OscarL>
let me check reall quick.
<Begasus>
ah, and now you tell me? :P
<OscarL>
I have pyserial and cppclean installed on the 32 bit install worked fine.
<OscarL>
I've used it to install other bigger project... installed "fine"...
<Begasus>
Nice to know :)
<OscarL>
but there was an issue that I attribute to some weird interaction with "virtualenv".
<OscarL>
(I don't like those, but seems to be everywhere).
<Begasus>
patches welcome :)
<OscarL>
Begasus: Just commenting the thing regarding "language-specific"-packages because it may help direct your time better.
<Begasus>
ooh, I don't mind :)
<OscarL>
If I can finnally understand what was the problem... will do Begasus ! :-D
<OscarL>
my suggestion will be... leave "source-only" Python packages as really low priority on your packaging efforts (as the can be easily installed with pip most likely anyway). Core python packages / pip / setuptools / distrotools / etc... those make more sense to expend time into (just my opinion, of course!)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
fully incredible!!! bitmap that only contains 512 bytes!!!!!!!!
<Begasus>
checks I'm doing here, local update (for instance mock) ... push to haikuports ... check buildmaster ... update "mock" with pkgman ... rerun test for paramiko :)
<OscarL>
almost there! :-D
<Begasus>
need a new recipe for invoke now :)
<harshad>
after the website changes are merged into the master, how long do they take to actually show up on the website?
<Begasus>
no idea there harshad
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<Begasus>
I know for the haikuports packages (merged recipes) once the build completed on buildmaster they show up pretty fast to install
<Begasus_32>
collected 374 items / 2 errors
<Begasus>
whoot! :)
<harshad>
hmm okay :) it's been a couple of days since the commit merged, the current master shows the changes. The page on the websit is still the previous version. Probably there's some different sync schedule there
<Begasus>
ok, pytest_relaxed needs a new recipe also ... :)
<Begasus>
I think humdinger would know more about the issue (or maybe PulkoMandy ?)
<OscarL>
Hello there harshad (BiPolar here)... just a tiny suggestion, if I may: when replying to comments on Trac issues, try to not "top-post" (ie: do not include the whole comment you are replying to). Better to just quote the relevant phrase/paragraph you are replying to... or just do a "replying to <username>:".
<OscarL>
(did that in the past, even on mailing lists, and was asked to stop doing that :-D)
<OscarL>
*I, I mean.
<OscarL>
harshad: regarding the website changes... you could ask waddlesplash when he's around.
<harshad>
ahh cool, will keep that in mind. I do see the comment thread gets a bit messy. Thanks for the heads up!
<OscarL>
np!
<harshad>
how do you do this here -- replying to a particular user?
<OscarL>
just like you did to reply to my comment, but delete my text, leaving only the "replying to..." part.
<waddlesplash>
harshad: it's possible something broke, it should have auto updated
<OscarL>
and add your reply below that line
<harshad>
OscarL: I mean here, on IRC. How do I reply to yu such that it sort of gets highligted to you
<OscarL>
Oh, sorry. you just type the full name (or parts of it and hit the tab key to autocomplete).
<harshad>
waddlesplash: oh ok. :/
<harshad>
OscarL, i guess this
<OscarL>
yup!
<harshad>
ah got it.
<matt3>
haiku has a very nice ftp server ;D
<matt3>
esay
<matt3>
easy
<OscarL>
harshad: If I seem to not understand questions well... chalk it up to either my poorly self-taught broken "English"... or just to my only partially functioning brain :-D
<Begasus>
Works either way :)
<OscarL>
better than nothing, I guess :-D
<harshad>
OscarL, haha! This was on me, mixing up the contexts!
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<waddlesplash>
harshad: 3:16:07 AM: Error: Error building site: "/opt/build/repo/content/guides/uefi_booting.md:40:183": unrecognized character in shortcode action: U+0028 '('. Note: Parameters with non-alphanumeric args must be quoted
<OscarL>
I glossed over the "here" you wrote :-)
<matt3>
0028 = (
<waddlesplash>
matt3: yes, it says that
<matt3>
o, i apologize ...
<matt3>
ok
<harshad>
waddlesplash, dang! I guess 40 is the line number?
<OscarL>
"haiku_1_bepc" that fails to install for some reason :-(
<Begasus>
you could use "python3. -m installer -p $prefix flit-$portVersion-py3-none-any.whl"
<Begasus>
or simular to install :)
<OscarL>
it's a binary extension.
<OscarL>
need proper .so working. lib got compiled ok, it seems. only pip refuses to install with an "XXX.whl is not supported wheel on this platform".
<matt3>
OscarL : if you want i couls tell you my disease ...
<matt3>
could
<OscarL>
just whatever you feel comfortable sharing, matt3.
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<matt3>
ok ... i have multiple sclerosis ...
<OscarL>
Sorry to hear that matt3.
<matt3>
but i walk everyday and it is going better ...
<matt3>
np
<matt3>
np
<OscarL>
darn... my lag made it look like I was sorry that you are getting better, LOL!
<OscarL>
hehe, not what I meant, of course!
<OscarL>
Nice to hear that it is going better!
<matt3>
ok, i know now you all are good boys ... np ...
<matt3>
i am very happy to know you are good people ... very happy ... :D
<OscarL>
Glad to hear that matt3!
<matt3>
you are welcome
<OscarL>
BeOS/Haiku always had (IMO) a pretty good group of users to be around.
<OscarL>
(with the occasional crazy dude once in a blue moon, but... pretty good overall :-D)
<matt3>
I thought you hated me ... but false => very happy :D
* OscarL
is the ocassional crazy dude.
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<OscarL>
matt3: why would we hate you? No way man!
<matt3>
yeehaaaa xD
<OscarL>
I had a disabled friend for 3 decades (he was on a wheelchair). As he never even mentioned, I never even asked about it.
<OscarL>
it never made any difference to me.
<OscarL>
we chatted about music, games, movies, etc.
<OscarL>
he never even asked about my mental issues, so... I guess we where even :-P
<OscarL>
*were
<matt3>
to share is better for me ...
<OscarL>
and that is perfectly fine matt3!
<matt3>
good boys, evil boys => listen only to the good ones ..
<OscarL>
I, for example... feel the same... I let people know that I'm bipolar (instead of trying to hide it). I think it makes things easier in the end.
<matt3>
sharing heal, I never judge ...
<OscarL>
true. not much point in judging, specially when we can't never be on the other's shoes.
<matt3>
you have nothing wrong ... you will be angry with someone ...
<matt3>
before sclerosis I felt autistic: but the doctors told me I was schizophrenic ... I don't feel that way ...
<OscarL>
well matt3... really nice to chat with you. I'm about to unplug for today, but...
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<matt3>
ok
<OscarL>
I guess we will read again soon!
<matt3>
yes, fine ...
<OscarL>
Be well, matt3!
<matt3>
cu
<OscarL>
:-)
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<matt3>
they are only problems of the soul => fears or anger => the brain is a chemical computer => problems of the soul
<matt3>
cu peeps
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<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Start of 10 days of mourning? I wonder how that's going to work - been a while since the reigning monarch has passed away.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yeah
<LinuxUserHaiku>
today is friday, no school for me today because i'm sick :(
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Certainly lots of news coverage here in Canada. Hmmm, will there be a holiday here? Ah, well a not so fun holiday, get well soon!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
first holidays will be in end of october
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<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) I'll have to listen to tonight's news and see if they mention any schedules for holidays and public events.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
good luck
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Also interesting to see what the new king will be like.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ah
<LinuxUserHaiku>
I cant understand where are you from?
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Canada - still part of the Commonwealth, so monarch is head of Canada too.
<phschafft>
hm.
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Mixed history with the monarchy and the original tribes, with some treaties not being honoured, but actual monarch being liked at times.
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) But then there will be hours of that on the news over the next few weeks. Lots of stories. Queen riding a Moose portrait from 1973 was on the washing-the-dishes show on the radio.
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Anyway, Haiku OS is largely unaffected by all that.
<B2IA>
(AGMS-Cottage) Or do all the window borders turn black for 10 days? :-)