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<LinuxUserHaiku> hello everybody!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @waddlesplash hi!
<Molniya> hello!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya How're you?
<Molniya> I'm ok i guess
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya where are you from?
<Molniya> I'd rather not talk about that, right now. You can think of me as a storybook character of sorts, by the name of Lightning, if you want.
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya today was 3 lessons instead 5 lessons
<Molniya> short day at school?
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<Molniya> goodness
<Molniya> I've been hacking away at a programming project of mine, which needs a `getopt` implementation
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya no 2 lessons because teacher is sick
<Molniya> ahh :(
<LinuxUserHaiku> sad yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> and i got 3 on math subject :(
<LinuxUserHaiku> because one exercise i did wrong
<Molniya> ah..
<Molniya> were you told how you got it wrong?
<LinuxUserHaiku> i understood myself
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<Molniya> that's good!
<LinuxUserHaiku> and i wish that i wont do these mistakes anymore
<LinuxUserHaiku> and today was English lesson!\
<Molniya> making mistakes is part of the learning process. it helps if you can recheck your work yourself, and strike it and retry, if you think you got it wrong
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> i'm in 5th grade
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya my favorite subject is English
<Molniya> yeah?
<iisi> I did really well in that sort of stuff, but tuuuurrrible in maths. Even when I get it right and feel like some math thing is easy, it takes me longer than most people.
<Molniya> aha
<iisi> 47th percentile in math, I think it was. Or was it 44th?
<Molniya> Below average but not terrible
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya yes my favorite subject is English
<iisi> But on the language side, I used to think I was "all that" because I got 99th percentile.
<Molniya> ha
<iisi> Well, with an Asian dad, anything less than 98% was BadTM, and he cared more about maths than anything else...
<iisi> We'll... step-dad.
<iisi> He's mysteriously mellow now.
<iisi> LUH, English as a first or second language?
<iisi> My dad (step-dad) thought it was bizarre that native English speakers have to study English. :-D We had a hard time explaining why to him.
<iisi> Thinking of which...I need to expand my Japanese again.
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<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy_64 hi!
<Molniya> oops, food went the wrong way and now i feel bleh
<waddlesplash> pls keep non Haiku talk to the -offtopic channel
<Molniya> ohhh
<Molniya> LinuxUserHaiku: can you join #haiku-offtopic ?
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah, yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Molniya you can join to my channel #my3rdpartychannel
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<LinuxUserHaiku> hu Begasus!
<Begasus> hi LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku> sorry, i made my homework
<LinuxUserHaiku> so was busy
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus i got two 3 on math subject :(
<Begasus> hehe
<Begasus> didn't you use your calculator? ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku> no
<LinuxUserHaiku> i made one exercise wrong
<Begasus> better luck next time
<LinuxUserHaiku> now our teachers is very strong
<LinuxUserHaiku> because i'm in 5th grade already
<LinuxUserHaiku> i never use calculator
<Begasus> need to make sure your brain is functional too :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> i count numbers in my head :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> hehe when i was on linux i had a lot of headache
<LinuxUserHaiku> hehe i'm working with openshot on haiku :)
<Begasus> nice :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> but i prefer sony vegas a bit more
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<Begasus> Moin lelldorin
<lelldorin> moin Begasus
<Begasus> How is it going there lelldorin ?
<Begasus> Long time no see (on IRC) :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> wait a sec..
<LinuxUserHaiku> biab
<lelldorin> yes this is true, i am here one short times
<lelldorin> i am ill at home today, hope to work tomorrow
<Begasus> after this week it's back to real live for me also
<lelldorin> you dot a prive for you dog? i see the picture on the forum
<lelldorin> got not dot
<Begasus> a prive?
<lelldorin> price
<lelldorin> fingers to fast
<LinuxUserHaiku> i back
<lelldorin> welcome back
<Begasus> ah yes, she gained her first national and international point for champion title :)
<lelldorin> cool
<LinuxUserHaiku> cool!!!!!!!!!
<lelldorin> i miss begeistert
<Begasus> same here, but with the dogs it's not easy to do much external :/
<lelldorin> oh yeah thats true
<lelldorin> i want to work on my recipecreator...but now i open it in the editor, i have no fun ;-)
<LinuxUserHaiku> hmmm, openshot doesnt change title font size
<Begasus> lelldorin, editor in recipecreator?
<LinuxUserHaiku> i found way!
<lelldorin> begasus no the source of the recipecretor in an editor
<Begasus> ah, I guess that's needed at first lelldorin ?
<lelldorin> Begasus: every time i am working on th import option of recipes i found more to add
<Begasus> hehe
<Begasus> and for default arguments it's still ok
<lelldorin> and i need to add all, because i need to export it again after rework by the user
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<lelldorin> if a have the import function ready i only need to export the data, thats not much work then any more.
<Molniya> erg
<Begasus> try one of the mixed architecture ones for python (you'll get a head-ache) ;)
<lelldorin> Begasus: ;-) ooooh nooo
<Begasus> well even for secondary architecture you would need "cmd:gcc$secondaryArchSuffix" and "make" (without the suffix)
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<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhhhhh, Begasus has quit!!!!!!!!!!
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<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhhhhhhhh
<Begasus> erg .. disconnected?
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus what that was??
<LinuxUserHaiku> HexChat crashed????
<lelldorin> Begasus: the recipe creator will create a recipe nothing more at first.
<Begasus> No client didn't crash
<Begasus> lelldorin, best to focus on 64bit for now then
<lelldorin> vision is stable
<Begasus> no suffixed atc needed
<Begasus> Haven't launched Vision yet at the build laptop
<LinuxUserHaiku> openshot is too buggy
<Begasus> LinuxUserHaiku, patches welcome :P
<lelldorin> Begasus: i will create a package for 32 and 64 bit, i do every time like this
<Begasus> yes, but for 32bit you'll get a lot of other variables that are not needed for 64bit lelldorin
<lelldorin> Begasus: ok give me list ;-)
<lelldorin> the user need to add infos by himself, i can only add examples and templates to add
<lelldorin> and a documentation with many hints ans tricks if one will help me
<Begasus> lelldorin, first one is adding "SECONDARY_ARCHITECTURE="x86"" (mostly)
<Begasus> then the "$secondaryArchSuffix" (where needed)
<Begasus> so like "gcc" needs it, "make" doesn't
<Begasus> devel packages, mostly this one only needed for haiku "haiku${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel"
<LinuxUserHaiku> openshot is too buggy
<LinuxUserHaiku> oh sorry
<LinuxUserHaiku> not that
<LinuxUserHaiku> you can use ARCHITECTURES="any"
<Begasus> those are for packages that don't need any architecture specified (quit a lot of the python packages are "any")
<lelldorin> LinuxUserHaiku: i need a possible variation, i add many of it, collected from ricipes
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<Begasus> Secondary can't be "any" lelldorin
<lelldorin> i need to expanse the list in copyright, licenses... to much more, but i will this ones only activated over the settings, not every one nned tham
<lelldorin> begasus this is my list in booth at the moment:
<lelldorin> any
<lelldorin> x86
<lelldorin> x86_gcc2
<lelldorin> x86_64
<lelldorin> ppc
<lelldorin> arm
<lelldorin> m68k
<lelldorin> source
<lelldorin> ?all !x86_gcc2
<lelldorin> !x86_gcc2 ?x86
<lelldorin> Begasus: i need to know how to make the sha256 file... or i have save the solution anythere??
<LinuxUserHaiku> just get sha256 of archive\
<lelldorin> ah ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> or just set sha256 to null and haikuporter will tell sha256 checksum after Found SHA256 checksum:
<Begasus> sha265 <archive>
<LinuxUserHaiku> 256
<Begasus> or that :)
<lelldorin> i have only shar256sum here on gcc2
<Begasus> lelldorin, most of the other arch's are not really used atm
<LinuxUserHaiku> @lelldorin i said how to get sha256
<Begasus> but you also should be able to set "any" for primary and "!x86_gcc2" if a package doesn't build for primary (on 32bit)
<Begasus> lelldorin, for secondary architecture there is only "x86" atm
<lelldorin> LinuxUserHaiku: yes you did but i have not sha356 only shar256sum and if i do it on a archive i get back "thats a archive"
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<Begasus_32> /Opslag/haikuports/dev-python/invoke/download> sha256sum 1.7.1.tar.gz
<Begasus_32> eb9f91616820fe7453f48e5835db4b7258bfa02c8103f21634a3394e07da66f9 1.7.1.tar.gz
<Begasus> like that lelldorin
<lelldorin> ah ok not the folder the compressed one
<lelldorin> ok
<Begasus> yes the "archive" ;)
<lelldorin> so i need to make a tar.gz file to get sha, or i add 0 like LinuxUserHaiku said
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<Begasus> lelldorin, ?
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<lelldorin> i write the recipe not building anything
<Begasus> you should pull or download the source and then do the checksum at the archive
<lelldorin> so i need a archive to get the sha info
<LinuxUserHaiku> @leddorin you have c++ source?
<lelldorin> LinuxUserHaiku: no i am a yab developer
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<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<LinuxUserHaiku> just upload yab sources one by one
<LinuxUserHaiku> and in source url go to github select LATEST commit and copy its SHA
<Begasus> it's not about yab sources LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku> that's NOT checksum
<Begasus> and no, not latest commit (if not needed), we prefer latest releases (where possible)
<lelldorin> i create a recipe creator, a program with input fields to make a recipe and export it. and the sha number is one needed to a recipe
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<lelldorin> i does not copile or buiild anything with it
<Begasus> correct, that one should always be the same for the download
<lelldorin> for mthe start just create arecipe
<LinuxUserHaiku> i just create recipes using text editor
<LinuxUserHaiku> with prepared example
<Begasus> that's not the point LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhhhhhhhh
<Begasus> lelldorin, is looking into creating a gui to create the recipes
<Begasus> kinda like a recipe IDE
<lelldorin> see the screenshot i add here
<Begasus> lelldorin, tried with one of the easy recipes like "weather" or "album"?
<Begasus> if your output is simular you should be on the right track
<lelldorin> for sha? thats sounds good
<Begasus> lelldorin, also for the recipe created at the end then
<Begasus> you already have the URI so that should fix it already
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<Begasus> sec
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<lelldorin> Begasus: i will send them all to you for testing ;-). This was not clear??? haha
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/380d0fc44435...71b000f375c3
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 71b000f - pytest_relaxed, revbump for pytest310 (#7186)
<Begasus> needed to push that :)
<lelldorin> LinuxUserHaiku: i create guis for command line tool on haiku using yab. Thas my way add somthing to haiku: imagemagickGUI, ghostscriptGUI...
<Begasus> np lelldorin if you have something to test I'll check it out
<lelldorin> Begasus: great :-)
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning there!
<lelldorin> hello
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]
<Begasus> ok, now buildmaster is at it for pytest-relaxed :)
<Begasus> need it for "invoke" --> "paramiko"
<LinuxUserHaiku> i want to try to port olive on haiku
<Begasus> well, not really need it, test fail still with them
<Begasus> nice LinuxUserHaiku , but you still didn't finish your passwordgenerator? ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku> what i didnt??
<LinuxUserHaiku> i can fix
<Begasus> atleast I didn't see any progress there
<LinuxUserHaiku> what i should to fix?
<LinuxUserHaiku> add new features?
<Begasus> no ... the recipe
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah'
<LinuxUserHaiku> add mime?
<Begasus> and haven't checked, but did you merge the PR at github?
<LinuxUserHaiku> add x86 arch?
<LinuxUserHaiku> what's pr?
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<Begasus> mime isn't really needed
<Begasus> pr = pull request
<LinuxUserHaiku> for what reason?
<Begasus> window title
<LinuxUserHaiku> i can just change this in source and change commit id
<Begasus> that is why I did the PR there
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok, i'll merge it
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok, thank you Begasus
<Begasus> OK, so you didn't merge but added it yourself ...
<LinuxUserHaiku> i dont know how to merge
<Begasus> you could ask?
<Begasus> anyway, closed the PR now
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah i see
<LinuxUserHaiku> now i'm fixing recipe
<Begasus> if you don't fix the *.pro file you wan't be able to use "make install" in the recipe
<LinuxUserHaiku> but i lost changes in pro file
<Begasus> ?
<LinuxUserHaiku> they merged??
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah pro changed
<LinuxUserHaiku> normal
<Begasus> lelldorin, do you have something for the recipecreator to test out (or is it still too early?)
<LinuxUserHaiku> how i should change recipe to make it building on x86??
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<Begasus> pasted last week
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhh! my password generator got available in HaikuDepot?!?!
<LinuxUserHaiku> sory no
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus to add x86 support to my recipe i need to add SECONDARY_ARCHITECTURES="x86" and $secondaryArchSuffix to every package?
<matt3> put an array => available chars + available numbers + available symbols @#$..
<matt3> printa random number => array[random]
<Begasus> as said not all, in "BUILD()"
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahh
<LinuxUserHaiku> where in BUILD()??
<LinuxUserHaiku> understood how
<lelldorin> Begasus: to early at the moment
<Begasus> np lelldorin
<LinuxUserHaiku> just set ARCHITECTURES="?all x86"
<Begasus> "all !x86_gcc2"
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahh
<LinuxUserHaiku> why gcc2?
<Begasus> gcc2 can't be used for Qt applications (as they are build with gcc11)
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok, i'll set and be done
<LinuxUserHaiku> error :(
<LinuxUserHaiku> Warning: skipping passwordgenerator-1.0.0, as the recipe is broken
<LinuxUserHaiku> Error: Error: Can't evaluate config file: /boot/home/haikuports/haiku-apps/passwordgenerator/work-1.0.0/port.recipe
<Begasus> Then you have an error in the recipe
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah i need to set all instead ?all
<LinuxUserHaiku> hmm, still same
<LinuxUserHaiku> seems fault in x86_gcc2
<Begasus> can you paste?
<LinuxUserHaiku> yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> wait a sec
<LinuxUserHaiku> https://bpa.st/3RWA
<Begasus> DESCRIPTION="This simple password generator app was originally created on pascal".
<Begasus> no dot after "
<Begasus> should be DESCRIPTION="This simple password generator app was originally created on pascal."
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<Begasus> line 10, missing " at the end
<LinuxUserHaiku> works..
<Begasus> empty line after SOURCE_DIR and ARCHITECTURES
<LinuxUserHaiku> i removed empty line
<Begasus> it's in our guidelines
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<LinuxUserHaiku> what i didnt do?
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah i did wrong summary
<Begasus> I was talking about the empty lines missing :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahh
<LinuxUserHaiku> very long description?!
<Begasus> first things first ... empty lines
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> i need right summary, description. yes?
<LinuxUserHaiku> to follow guidelines
<Begasus> show me the changes first
<LinuxUserHaiku> https://bpa.st/23HA
<Begasus> still wrong
<LinuxUserHaiku> empty lines?
<LinuxUserHaiku> unnecessary lines?
<Begasus> 1 empty line after SOURCE_DIR and ARCHITECTURES
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> https://bpa.st/IQ6Q Now right?
<Begasus> ok, now HOMEPAGE set that to your github page
<LinuxUserHaiku> to repo page?
<Begasus> yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> https://bpa.st/465A
<LinuxUserHaiku> now i follow guidelines?
<Begasus> layout looks right now :)
<Begasus> now change: qt5 to lib:libQt6Core and add lib:libQt6Gui and lib:libQt6Widgets
<Begasus> those 3 libraries are needed (not the other ones from Qt)
<Begasus> also in BUILD_REQUIRES
<LinuxUserHaiku> but with _devel
<Begasus> no, like "devel:libQt6Core" ...
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok
<LinuxUserHaiku> i'll do this tomorrow
<LinuxUserHaiku> cu!
<Begasus> Qt5 fails to build on 32bit
<LinuxUserHaiku> ah
<Begasus> cu!
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/71b000f375c3...d84b7a15949c
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d84b7a1 - pyyaml, bump version, drop python2.7, add python3.10 (#7187)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus thank you :)
<Begasus> np
<LinuxUserHaiku> and recipe will be done?
<Begasus> nope :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> ok, will tell tommorrow
<Begasus> that's only for 64bit
<LinuxUserHaiku> why
<LinuxUserHaiku> cu
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<lelldorin> Begasus: do you know a recipe with more then one license in the recipe?
<lelldorin> ok have one
<Begasus> should be plenty :)
<Begasus> also for copyright
<lelldorin> only for testing,. copyright and license are ready now, a little bit tricky because you have 3 varantes to wrtie in the recipe
<Begasus> there are licenses included in Haiku, those shouldn't be added as seperate licenses
<Begasus> Like MIT, no need to add the seperate license as a "file"
<lelldorin> bed
<lelldorin> Begasus: i add all available in the system license folder
<Begasus> Depending on what you have installed :)
<lelldorin> is the same like in my hpkgcreator
<Begasus> ok
<lelldorin> yes
<lelldorin> Begasus: yes it is pending, but the only clean way
<lelldorin> i need to check to add a new one(own one) too, in hpkgcreator it is not a problem, by recipes i does not know
<Begasus> it needs a seperate directory called "licenses" whith the actual license in there
<Begasus> The filename there sould be the same as in your recipe
<lelldorin> ok this sounds like a user based work, but the recipe creator. the same fr the patch folder, only the user nows this name
<Begasus> most sources provide a LICENSE file, that could be copied to the directory and renamed (by the user yes)
<Begasus> for some things you need to have the archive extracted to read through some files (like the LICENSE, README ...)
<lelldorin> i have not a recipe folder at the moment, i need to think about to add them to the project in the recipe creator, so the user can add here his files and the creator can read them out
<Begasus> a bit like you do with hpkgcreator, add some drop zones
<lelldorin> yes i understand, but for the start a bit too much :-)
<Begasus> understood :)
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<lelldorin> Begasus: do you now any recipe with addition files?
<Begasus> plenty :)
<Begasus> search haikuports for "rdef.in"
<lelldorin> i only need a na,e
<lelldorin> m
<Begasus> scummvm
<Begasus> first one that comes to mind
<lelldorin> there it is placed? i do not see it in add-emulators
<Begasus> games-engines
<lelldorin> no additional files
<lelldorin> stop... one here
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<lelldorin> next problem fixed
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<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d84b7a15949c...715f1c905373
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 715f1c9 - lexicon, new python recipe (#7188)
<Begasus> nice lelldorin
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<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/715f1c905373...a4ffe8aae0e0
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a4ffe8a - fluidity-sm, new python recipe (#7189)
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<matt3> my password gen : if you port lazarus ide i will build under haiku ...
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56442] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=950809231f2f+%5E134fa6111fed
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 950809231f2f - Removed 'register' storage class compiler warnings
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56443] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b4b3f69fcadd+%5E950809231f2f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] b4b3f69fcadd - xfs: extended attributes necessary hooks and shortform attributes support
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<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps!
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<Not-ff83> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/da78befc4be6...ec16cb56f85e
<Not-ff83> [haiku/website] dominicm00 ec16cb5 - blog/dominicm: GSoC 2022 Ham Final Report
<matt3> GSoOSC : Google Summer of Open Source Code ;D
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<Not-ff83> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/ec16cb56f85e...8d2316be79bd
<Not-ff83> [haiku/website] harshit-sharma-gits beb77d7 - GSoC'22 Final Report: Improving the Calendar Application
<Not-ff83> [haiku/website] harshit-sharma-gits 8d2316b - Blog Updated
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<kquote03[m]> Hello
<kquote03[m]> I've just read the August report, and the progress is very astounding. It seems that someone did reply to Korli for the 11th gen performance issue tho https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17595
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<waddlesplash> kquote03[m]: no, the logs attached there are not with the test builds korli provided.
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<kquote03[m]> <waddlesplash> "kquote03: no, the logs attached..." <- oh, the test build seems to have been erased, should I try and notify korli, or shall i apply the patch and make a build locally ?
<waddlesplash> either one.
<kquote03[m]> 👍
<waddlesplash> probably makes more sense to ping him though
<kquote03[m]> waddlesplash: are they on the matrix chat?
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<waddlesplash> don't think so
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