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<LinuxUserHaiku> pancake! irix doesnt work on qemu-system-mips ?(
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<rennj> but it works on mame so ive read
<rennj> qemu-sparc runs old solaris
<rennj> qemu-mips might run older irix not 6.5.x
<rennj> but mame can run irix i know that
<rennj> some mips core..
<rennj> doubt r10k
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<rennj> IRIX 6.5.22MAME 0.210+MAME 0.210+
<rennj> pretty damn close to finalt release
<rennj> finale
<rennj> yeah r4k
<rennj> 86box and mame and vmware...good stuff
<rennj> besides thing like dosbox and uae
<rennj> or wine
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj i tried mame but i cant swap cdrom
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj the main goal is changing cdrom image while mame is running
<rennj> chdman createcd perhaps
<rennj> part of mame
<rennj> remaster the iso images
<rennj> mame format
<LinuxUserHaiku> i meant other
<rennj> i understand
<rennj> irix was couple dozen cdrom iso images
<rennj> since it covered indy-to-tezro line
<rennj> like solaris covering sparc and ultrasparc and motola 68k
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj i insert first disk in mame then irix installator want next image(i have it) buut i cant change cdrom to this image while mame is running.. if i quit.. i quit
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj and when i try to change image via ui it doesnt see my iso at all. but when i archive my iso to zip it says Internal error
<rennj> irix65.chd
<rennj> chdman createcd
<rennj> like i said
<rennj> covert the media to mame format
<rennj> anyway good luck
<rennj> i had real sgi hardware and irix
<rennj> indy,indigo2 solid impact, and o2 and o2+
<rennj> i still have the media
<rennj> http://i.imgur.com/oGmsKt4.jpg irix,freebsd,solaris,beos
<rennj> 20years ago
<rennj> almost
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj to which device i need to attach converted image? cdrom? harddisk?
<rennj> you got to READ
<rennj> READ
<rennj> i dont know the answer...cause i never did it
<rennj> mame support irix/mips emulation i know that
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhh
<rennj> qemu-mips probably does also
<LinuxUserHaiku> soory
<rennj> irix65.chd
<rennj> chdman createcd
<rennj> i tell you the commands
<rennj> go read
<LinuxUserHaiku> okk
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj i converted image. what next
<rennj> READ
<rennj> im not walking you thru install..
<LinuxUserHaiku> okk
<rennj> im sure it well documented on forums
<rennj> mame/irix install
<rennj> besides the qemu-mips foobar
<rennj> cause i bet qemu-mips can run irix...
<rennj> you may even need romz!
<rennj> rom images from the boxxes
<rennj> boot prom
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj can i use mame roms for qemu-mips?
<rennj> i have no clue
<rennj> i ran real irix on real hardware, never cared about emulating it
<rennj> why would emulate some old ass operating system when i have modern linux,bsd's,solaris?
<rennj> you think you missing out on some hidden tech?
<rennj> like 4GB file sizes
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj i do this because i want to try out irix
<rennj> back when 1GB scsi harddrives came out
<rennj> and wouldnt hold that 4GB file
<rennj> let alone load it
<rennj> irix at 300MHz
<rennj> athlon at 1GHz running linux,freebsd,solaris
<rennj> you missed out..20+ years ago the joys
<rennj> add in the 3dfx bringing opengl to pc's
<rennj> not directX but opengl
<rennj> $44,000.00 for 33GB scsi array...33 1GB scsi harddrives...when irix was rocking
<rennj> six scsi controller and 33 disks, convert to fiber optics...GBICS ...electrical signal converted to light
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<rennj> those gbics use to burn out big time...
<LinuxUserHaiku> mm
<rennj> scsi to fiber
<rennj> fiber channel is $$$
<rennj> doesnt really matter, the speed limit is 11.8" in 1ns
<rennj> know that!!!!!
<rennj> time/space..distance matters!
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj how are you
<rennj> gbic = sfp today
<rennj> single mode and multi mode
<LinuxUserHaiku> ih
<rennj> burn your eye out!
<LinuxUserHaiku> oh
<rennj> shoot your eye out!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj what??
<rennj> you know the yellow cladding
<LinuxUserHaiku> hmm
<rennj> single mode fiber optics vs multimode fiber optics
<rennj> laser will burn your eyeball
<rennj> dont look down the wire
<LinuxUserHaiku> ahhhh
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj how're you?
<rennj> 12 singlemode fibers (9 micron core) inside an Aramid yarn wrapped in a yellow PVC outer jacket.
<rennj> piss off with the how are you shit
<rennj> you sound like matt3 crazy from italy
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj ok, if you think that "how are you" is shit i wont ask this
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy hi!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA hi!
<bbjimmy> LinuxUserHaiku hi
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy how are you?
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<bbjimmy> cool! AboutSystem has a replicant.
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy what is repilcant?
<bbjimmy> * explains
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy understood
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<rennj> https://imgur.com/WecJVQN the pulse replicants are green 1 and 2 in bottom right
<rennj> turn off cpu's
<rennj> hmm i could have 4 of those now...if you want me to boot up beos vm..on modern 4core box...
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA hi!
<bbjimmy> LinuxUserHaiku @B2IA is the beshare bridge bot.
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy he isnt real people?
<bbjimmy> no, it re-produces this channel on beshare at beshare.agmsmith.ca
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) hi LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA i'm here
<bbjimmy> so am i
<bbjimmy> I just typed that in beshare
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64:) bbjimmy_64:
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64:) bbjimmy_64:
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) I just typed that in beshare
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<rennj> the godfather said to take you out!
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) me?
<rennj> hbo beating the shit out of Mario Puzo
<rennj> don corleone i am honored and grateful
<rennj> luca brasi sleeps with the fishes!
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) I could never get into the godfather
<LinuxUserHaiku> @bbjimmy is @Not-ff83 real people?
<rennj> hmm i read the books besides the movies
<rennj> The Sicilian also
<rennj> good stuff...
<bbjimmy> LinuxUserHaiku looks like another bot
<rennj> russian spy bot
<LinuxUserHaiku> mm, i created my own channel but i'm not my channel's operator :/
<rennj> all your bases belong to us
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) rennj indeed
<LinuxUserHaiku> hmmm
<LinuxUserHaiku> @waddlesplash hi!
<rennj> a bot of epic proportions
<rennj> my nunchucks will make quick work of you!
<rennj> taste the pain!
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) i like to be able to pass bots in the hallway.
<LinuxUserHaiku> mm, i created my own channel but i'm not my channel's operator :/ ... :/
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA how're you?
<rennj> no how are you!
<rennj> no how are you!
<LinuxUserHaiku> bliin
<rennj> explain more
<LinuxUserHaiku> mmmm
<rennj> no how are you!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj understood
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) again, B2IA is a bot
<rennj> B2IA, 2+2
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA i know that you're bot
<rennj> does the bot do simple math
<LinuxUserHaiku> yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> if it'll have program for that
<rennj> you make dinner now!
<rennj> bot!
<rennj> you make dinner now! bot!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA count: 2+2
<rennj> B2IA, count 2=2
<rennj> yeah weak sauce
<rennj> dc/bc fail
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) the bot simply re-produces the chat on #haiku in beshare clients on beshare.agmsmith.ca
<rennj> clean it up!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA count 7*2
<rennj> colossus's the forbin project
<rennj> you need to watch that movie
<rennj> thats the happy ending
<rennj> AI takes control
<rennj> nuclear MAD
<rennj> good book also
<rennj> movie and book
<LinuxUserHaiku> i dont prefer to watch movie often
<rennj> alphafold/deepmind says watch it now, before the culling
<rennj> the purge!
<rennj> haha
<LinuxUserHaiku> hahaahaahah
<LinuxUserHaiku> did you know what will happen after 19th January 2038 year on 32 bit system?
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj did you know what will happen after 19th January 2038 year on 32 bit system?
<rennj> 2038 is the end?
<rennj> i heard that before
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<rennj> gettimeofday
<rennj> struct timespec64
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) y2k all over again
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj after that time variable for time will overflow
<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) by 2038 we should all be running 64bit systems anyway
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj this happens only on 32 bit systems(windows,linux/haiku) etc
<rennj> The function gettimeofday64() will behave exactly like gettimeofday() except it will support calendar times beyond 03:14:07 UTC on January 19, 2038.
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj right
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj because 32 bit systems use unsigned Int32 variable for time
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj and after 2038 year Int32 limit will be passed
<rennj> fredo! fredo!
<rennj> you betrayed the family
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennk oopss
<rennj> sleep with the fishes
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj what??
<rennj> moe green says hi
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj sleep with your computer
<rennj> sleep with you car engine?
<rennj> sleep with you computer?
<rennj> just some device for trapping electricity and making it do work
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj sleep with your computer mouse
<rennj> you know the whole diode,capacitor,resistor foobar
<LinuxUserHaiku> nope
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<rennj> its the baptism scene all over
<rennj> do you reject satan? in all forms?
<rennj> hehe
<rennj> bang!
<rennj> bang!
<rennj> bang!
<rennj> the father all mighty, creator of heave and earth....
<LinuxUserHaiku> ooooh
<LinuxUserHaiku> uuuuh
<augiedoggie> you need to take some of this stuff to a different channel
<LinuxUserHaiku> ooo
<rennj> cause haiku on saturday is so on topic...
<augiedoggie> it's the reason there is a #haiku-offtopic channel
<rennj> that channel sucks
<rennj> hehe
<LinuxUserHaiku> haiku-offtopic is very nice channel.. that's just for talk :)
<rennj> praise satan and all his works!
<rennj> amen
<LinuxUserHaiku> noooo
<rennj> wait till matt3 comes back, that religious chucklehead from italy...
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj matt3 is good peoplw?
<rennj> nah, crazy people, a real nutter
<rennj> the internet brings them out
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj why he crazy?
<rennj> cause he is holy roller nutter,
<LinuxUserHaiku> oops
<rennj> once you let 1 crazy belief in..the rest follow
<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj i should say he isnt crazy he just fun
<rennj> but hey, virgin births and talking snakes, the burning bush told me so...
<LinuxUserHaiku> ooh
<LinuxUserHaiku> uh
<rennj> crazy is the bible yes?
<LinuxUserHaiku> noo
<rennj> old testament/new testament what diff does it make
<LinuxUserHaiku> dont know
<rennj> mathew mark luke john were smoking crazy...
<LinuxUserHaiku> oooih
<rennj> yeah well you may not know the historicity
<_Dario_> Hi. What is the equivalent for the /boot/system/develop/headers/ on the non-package folder structure?
<augiedoggie> use `findpaths B_FIND_PATH_HEADERS_DIRECTORY`
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<rennj> Begasus, will know!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus hi!
<_Dario_> thank you augiedoggie!!
<rennj> now the malware is in place for the ld preload attack
<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Begasus> hi rennj _Dario_ LinuxUserHaiku
<_Dario_> hi Begasus
<LinuxUserHaiku> g'afternoon peeps
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus i installed macOS classoc 9.2 using qemu ppc on haiku!!
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus now i'm installing macOS X 10.3 Panther
<Begasus> LinuxUserHaiku, you told that yesterday :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> ohh sorry
<Begasus> so what's next? ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus i'm installing macos x 10.3
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<Begasus> LinuxUserHaiku, https://ibb.co/y8gnK8C ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus this is ZETA?
<Begasus> yep
<Begasus> icon theme I did back then
<LinuxUserHaiku> coooool!!!!!!!!!
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @rennj you back!!
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b6ae6333c0ba...d28bb6276f7e
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d28bb62 - doxygen, bump version (#7227)
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Not-ff83 hi!!
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @B2IA welcome back!
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<Begasus> bbl
<nephele> hi begasus
<LinuxUserHaiku> @nephele hi!
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi
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<lelldorin> good morning
<lelldorin> can ADDITIONAL_FILES="" in a recipe be more then one file listed? Every recipe i see have one one file here.
<jmairboeck> lelldorin: yes, you can add multiple files, see for example https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/app-text/texlive/texlive-2022.recipe#L20
<lelldorin> jmairboeck: thanks
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56474] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a6e9176bc547+%5E99071c0c0b39
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a6e9176bc547 - x86_64: prefix rdtsc with lfence, or use rdtscp if available
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56475] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fbca1c40886d+%5Ea6e9176bc547
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fbca1c40886d - kernel/x86_64: configure LFENCE as a serializing instruction on AMD
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<Not-ff83> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to haiku [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/8ab6f6538ee5...9a614248fb52
<Not-ff83> [haiku/haikuwebkit] jsteinaker d512531 - BWebPage's createNewPage method now requires a BUrlContext
<Not-ff83> [haiku/haikuwebkit] jsteinaker 9a61424 - Restore blank line
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<Not-ff83> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to haiku [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/9a614248fb52...5b4b2b350fa7
<Not-ff83> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy 5b4b2b3 - Fix font cache crash on exit
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<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus i back!
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<LinuxUserHaiku> Did @matt3 joined to this channel?
<LinuxUserHaiku> cu!
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<Begasus> re
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<netpositive> hello
<Begasus> hi netpositive :)
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<B2IA> (AGMS) LinuxUserHaiku, B2IA (Beshare to IRC Bridge) is a sleepy bot. Actually just bash shell scripts copying data from Vision to Beshare and back.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Sleepy since whenever there isn't any IRC activity for 20 minutes, it restarts Vision. Vision/Haiku doesn't detect dead network connections (such as firewall dropped the connection), and just sits there seemingly OK.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Actually it's the opposite of sleepy, proding Vision to stay awake. But I wouldn't want to call it a "woke" 'bot :-)
<Begasus> @AGMS linuxuserhaiku got out earlier :)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Oh well, if he checks the channel logs (no atrus catsup? or atrus message for...) or someone could remind him. I'll probably see hom online later too.
<B2IA> (AGMS) him
<B2IA> (AGMS) her?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Better to stick with hom :-)
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d28bb6276f7e...627cd38564fa
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 627cd38 - libspiro, bump version (#7229)
<Begasus> him :)
<Begasus> afaik* :)
<netpositive> it's so complicated these days 8)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe we could use "it", since we're also all interested in Information Technology. Pronouns, what a minefield!
<Begasus> ;)
<rennj> the stuff of nightmares
<Begasus> 164 if libsoup is merged
<Begasus> rennj, we are on this track, only need people to keep on track for this
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<rennj> stupid connection
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<rennj> hehe Rust is C for people who can't malloc.
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<Begasus> closing down for today
<Begasus> cu humdinger :)
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<humdinger> PSA: Anyone interested to help with new and updated translations?
<humdinger> damn, missed Begasus...
<humdinger> Begasus: can you look at Clipdinger @ Polyglot once more? I had to add 2 more strings...
<humdinger> (nothing important, just an error alert that should normally never show...)
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<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 14 commits to master [+23/-23/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/627cd38564fa...07164bf2fff0
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 37d2b33 - dos2unix: bump version
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 64b5933 - ed: bump version
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 90ffa80 - findutils: bump version
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] ... and 11 more commits.
<_Dario_> hi humdinger
<humdinger> hullo!
<_Dario_> I guess can take the spanish one for Clipdinger
<humdinger> that'd be great!
<_Dario_> however, I have a question about the sentence
<_Dario_> Failed to upload the clip.\nThe temporary file could not be written to disk.
<_Dario_> upload to where?
<humdinger> You can paste a clip to an online service
<_Dario_> it have some syncronization function? like upload to dropbox or something?
<_Dario_> ohh I see
<humdinger> https://0x0.st
<_Dario_> Thanks for the information!
<humdinger> meant only for quick sharing. so, no authentication needed etc.
<humdinger> is kept for about 30 days, depending on the size of the file
<humdinger> "UpoadIt" uses the same service
<humdinger> When you're done with Clipdinger, Artpaint's Spanish is at 80% .... :)
<_Dario_> I will try it too
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<_Dario_> but my knowledge about digital paint is to low
<_Dario_> *too low
<humdinger> Thanks very much!
<humdinger> I, too, had to websearch some terms for the German translation.
<humdinger> To see what's used for the belnding modes foremost.
<humdinger> *blending
<humdinger> Not obvious when you're only used to the english terms
<_Dario_> yes
<_Dario_> also in spanish there are many words that are not usually translated to spanish, or the translation is not widely used.
<humdinger> We should try to use the terms commonly used by the graphics app users on other platforms/software.
<humdinger> if they are used to the english terms, stick with those.
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<humdinger> bye for now
* humdinger waves
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<augiedoggie> hm, looks like someone broke 'checkfs', it's giving errors when it completes a check
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<Vidrep_64> Hi
<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, so far, so good with HaikuWebKit. It built OK, and isn't crashing anymore when quitting.
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<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/07164bf2fff0...3d4c85327692
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 3d4c853 - emacs: bump git rev (#7230)
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