<Begasus>
don't you get policiy warnings when the package is created?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
no
<LinuxUserHaiku>
didnt get
<Begasus>
You should atleast get one for missing dependency for libGL
<Begasus>
Warning: POLICY ERROR: "/packaging/passwordgenerator_x86/apps/PasswordGenerator" needs library "libGL.so.1", but the package doesn't seem to declare that as a requirement
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ah, i got that
<Begasus>
right, so you need to add lib:libGL in the REQUIRES list
<LinuxUserHaiku>
no warnings now!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
and you try to do this
<Begasus>
If you build in strict modus the warning will change into an error
<LinuxUserHaiku>
for me after this hpkg sucessfully built
<Not-ff83>
[haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb a3fde71 - QuickLaunch: Update to v1.4
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<OscarL>
New QuickLaunch release. Nice!
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<Begasus>
re
<iisi>
regards
<matt3>
hello
<matt3>
how to build a screensaver under haiku ?
<Begasus>
no idea
<OscarL>
Good afternoon Begasus.
<OscarL>
matt3: there are many examples you could use as a base.
<OscarL>
either from the Haiku repository... or from HaikuArchives
<matt3>
ok, i have done bewake under beos and i wish to build 4 haiku ..
<OscarL>
"Be Sample Code" used to include example screensavers too in the BeOS R5 days.
<OscarL>
matt3: have you tried using the makefile-engine to build your programs?
<OscarL>
Even on BeOS days was a nice and simple enough alternative.
<matt3>
ah, here is ... how to use make ?
<OscarL>
(even *I* was able to use that, so... anyone can :-D)
<Begasus>
hehe
<OscarL>
matt3: that's the thing with makefile-engine...
<OscarL>
you just basically fill up a template, and the engine does the rest for you.
<matt3>
is there a tutorial ?
<Begasus>
"make" is the basic to get anything to compile
<OscarL>
I'm on Windows now, and don't recall the details from memory (haven't really usesd it for a while)...
<Begasus>
what in front of it depends on the source
<Begasus>
what's*
<OscarL>
but once you fiil up the template... just "make" and things appear by magic :-D
<OscarL>
(the makefile-engine templates were full of comments explaining how to use them)
<Begasus>
Plenty of examples for Makefiles using the makefile-engine at HaikuArchives
<OscarL>
Begasus: Yeah... that was I was counting on when I suggested matt3 to look there for screensaver examples! Lots of great gems from the BeOS days.
<Begasus>
Right OscarL , some nice things there still, but not all can be build for Haiku
<OscarL>
And haiku's developement packages already includes the makefile-engine, right? maybe there are templates included too?
<Begasus>
yes,right click any-where and choose New - Makefile
<OscarL>
matt3: the nice thing with the makefile-engine was... it had "recipes" for different types of code: drivers, apps, screen_savers, etc... it was really easy.
<Not-ff83>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus eb01ed8 - appstream-glib, bump version (#7152)
<OscarL>
Begasus: today a "miracle" happened... I found a bug in Haiku's Sound preflet, and instead of filling a bug report as I usually do... somehow I was able to fix it (after first thinking... no way I'll be able to understand this). Patch awaiting review :-D (later on... I found out that the bug was already reported on Trac :-D)
<OscarL>
Still! We all get a better Haiku experiecence from that!
<Begasus>
As you can see not a lot changed there
<Begasus>
Plenty of outdated recipes there :)
<OscarL>
Not enough Begasus(es)
<OscarL>
:-D
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
Try updating one of the python recipes :P
<OscarL>
Mmm yesterday I think I found some weird issue with Python virtualenvs...
<Begasus>
The one for gettext from extrowerk (PR still open) is a tricky one as it has a cycling dependency with glib2
<OscarL>
(trying to install a tool that checks for unused headers on C++ code)
* Begasus
hides :)
<OscarL>
Begasus: do no! I'm still a noob regarding virtualenvs (I left python programming just before those were a thing :-D)... so I'm not sure it was my fault, venv's, pip's, or just bad luck :-D
<OscarL>
Regarding your issues with builds... I wish I could do more than offer words of support and grattitude!
<Begasus>
never used pip to install anything python related, those packages I found missing I added them to haikuports using a generic python recipe I use to build up a recipe from base
<Begasus>
It's not that hard OscarL
<Begasus>
first step is to setup haikuporter/haikuports
<Begasus>
then just try with a simple one like "Album" or "Weather" to build
<Begasus>
Once you get the hang on recipes they are a pleasure to work with (well mostly) :)
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<OscarL>
I bet I'll end up using it one way or another, because, at the very least... I will want to fix some issues with KeyCursor.
<OscarL>
(when, or IF, I manage to find the issue)
<Begasus>
;)
<Begasus>
biab, time for the dogs :)
<OscarL>
Begasus: I ended up using pip because pkgman couldn't find a package for pyserial, despite it having a recipe on HaikuPorts.
<Begasus>
so that would be one thing you could look into for updating a recipe :)
<OscarL>
Adding it to the ToDo list, Begasus! :-)
<OscarL>
At least now PySerial works out of the box on Haiku (thanks to some recent fixes)
<OscarL>
*fixes on Haiku, I mean.
<Begasus_32>
grabbing pyserial_python3-3.5-1-any.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/pyserial_python3-3.5-1-any.hpkg grabbing pyserial_python38-3.5-1-any.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/pyserial_python38-3.5-1-any.hpkg grabbing pyserial_python39-3.5-1-any.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/pyserial_python39-3.5-1-any.hpkg
<Begasus>
see, only takes about 5 minutes :)
<Begasus>
and a few seconds later ...
<Begasus_32>
grabbing pyserial_python310-3.5-1-any.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/pyserial_python310-3.5-1-any.hpkg
<Begasus>
I could even pull your PR as a patch if it's not merged OscarL :)
<OscarL>
Apparently Haiku's TiMidi (spelling?) fonts have some issues.
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<Begasus>
PS, jmairboeck is the one that brought texlive to a recent enough version that can be used (based on jessicah her work) :)
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<Begasus>
patches welcome OscarL :)
<OscarL>
and a patch has been available from a long time BeOS user/dev.
<jmairboeck>
I have also a half-finished recipe for that one, but first I want to try if I can add a BSoftSynth based device as well
<jmairboeck>
But I haven
<jmairboeck>
But I haven't had time yet to finish that
<OscarL>
Memory fails... will search browse history. Pete Good<something>.ca
<Begasus>
yes, he's around for csound also
<Begasus>
goodeve iirc
<OscarL>
That's the one!
<Begasus>
yep :) had some email encounters with him regarding csound
<OscarL>
Begasus: I ended up in this website somehow after 2 decades :-D
<Begasus>
One of the old hogs also :P
<OscarL>
And read him complain about Haiku's .hpkg midi fonts not being fixed despite being labeled as such :-D
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<Begasus>
Haven't seen an issue about that so far
<Begasus>
at least not one registered at haikuports or the like ...
<OscarL>
Yeah... that was my impression too, while reading Pete's site... "Did you actually reported it?" :-D
<OscarL>
We are ALL getting old :-D
<Begasus>
old(er) :P
<OscarL>
Ah... Begasus The Wise!
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<Begasus>
most of you are still kiddos to me ;)
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<Begasus>
but at the rage the younger ones grow into development I never could catch up :D
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<OscarL>
Begasus: what? you mean you didn't packaged your Haiku apps at age 10? LAAAAME!!!
<OscarL>
:-D
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
I was still playing with "real" marbles :P
<OscarL>
LinuxUser will (hopefully) remember us sometime :-D
<OscarL>
Begasus: Welp... I might be a tad younger than you... but living in the middle of nowhere in Argentina...
<Begasus>
Hope he's strong enough to take advise on the recipe he's working on, it's a nice small app, and could be handy compared to bloated ones
<Begasus>
hehe OscarL
<OscarL>
I grew up around real marbles too :-D
<Begasus>
I'm heading to 60 next year, don't think there are a lot that would be older then me :)
<OscarL>
45 y/o here (but... 30 years of bipolar disorder type II... has taken its toll on my brain :-D)
<OscarL>
Begasus: Good thing is... 60s now is NOWHERE near as bad as it was for my grandparents, for example.
<Begasus>
Wasn't sure what bepolar was/is, so did a quick search, not an easy burden to carry allong I think
<OscarL>
That generation had it rough... All my elders at 60 looked like today's 80.
<OscarL>
Begasus: Sometimes I don't even notice. Sometimes... it is basically disabling.
<OscarL>
Good thing? Bad moments do not last forever :-D
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<OscarL>
Yesterday I was feeling really bad. Today... I was able to feel productive, and that is great.
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<Begasus>
Well kudos to you OscarL to keep it up! +1
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<Begasus>
In troubled times haikuports was just what I needed to set my mind aside from dealing with the problems back then
<OscarL>
Begasus: Thank you. That actualy means a lot to me, comming from someone like you.
<Begasus>
We all have things on our minds, some harder some not so hard, but still ... it helps to be able to reflect your thoughts to something else at those times (sometimes)
<OscarL>
Begasus: I was having a really rough times lately... untill that bug report on my old serial_mouse code. I used that as an anchor. And after some weeks...
<OscarL>
here we are :-D
<Begasus>
Glad you took the step OscarL !
<OscarL>
still haven't fixed that darn serial_mouse, but at least I'm trying :-D
<Begasus>
Keeps that old(er) brain at work ;)
<OscarL>
And sharing a good time chatting with good people like you. Thank you, Begasus. Really.
<Begasus>
Nah, I'm just a regular guy, just a "bit" more present (when I'm not working)
<OscarL>
"Just a regular guy" is just what it takes, most of the time.
<OscarL>
Again...
<Begasus>
;)
<OscarL>
just not enough Begasus(es) :-D
<Begasus>
ow, there are plenty :) (had some good experiences here over the years)
<OscarL>
Oh sure, that's one thing about BeOS/Haiku. (maybe just because the size of the "community")...
<Begasus>
I did plenty mistakes when starting out at haikuports/bep files :)
<Begasus>
So just returning some of the guiding I had back then
<OscarL>
Still plenty of people with good intentions. With "not enough Begasus(es)" I mean... we can always use more people like you! :-D
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<Begasus>
each are active in their fields, and not all are online or available at IRC :) (but you noticed that already)
<OscarL>
Yup.
<OscarL>
I just sent a message to RudulfC yesterday.
<OscarL>
over the forums...
<Begasus>
ah
<OscarL>
(that I didn't even visited since 2009)
<OscarL>
letting him know that some issues he was having with one of his apps...
<Begasus>
you missed alot than ;)
<OscarL>
might actually work now thanks to some fixes (that I proposed, LOL)
<OscarL>
Begasus: I always kept an eye... on the issue tracker and on the commit logs / mailing lists).
<OscarL>
I just never went back to the forums.
<Begasus>
Ah! you are Bipolar at the forum?
<OscarL>
Yup.
<Begasus>
heh, was just thinking about the post you did on the lazarus topic
* OscarL
is BiPolar in disguise :-D
<OscarL>
BiPolar was my first "nickname".
<Begasus>
That sounded familiar yes
<Begasus>
I guess my nick goes around for over 20 years now :)
<OscarL>
(and basically the only one I ever used, befor my real name :-D)
<OscarL>
Begasus: yeah...
<Begasus>
there's no secret in my real name, it's even at github ;)
<OscarL>
My BiPolar account on Haiku's forum says I register in Aug 2006... only because we ALL were forced to re-register then!
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
I think I only found out the forum much later
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<OscarL>
I remember voting for the new name for OpenBeOS.
<OscarL>
I still have some screenshots of my BeOS R5 PE, with an "OpenBeOS" label instad of the BeOS logo on the Deskbar :-D
<Begasus>
Don't think I was at the forum by then
<OscarL>
I first installed BeOS PE R5 thanks to a PC Magazine CD in... 2001 I think. (the magazine was imported from Spain... at least 9 months after its publication date).
<OscarL>
Was blown away by it ever since.
<OscarL>
I literally could not understand how it was SO fast on that crappy PC.
<OscarL>
Remember using GoGo Nocoda to convert some .wavs into mp3...
<OscarL>
it was at least 5x faster than the software I used on DOS/Win.
<OscarL>
I could not believe it :-D
<Begasus>
Same here, was a bit into some linux distro's when I found out about BeOS
<OscarL>
(parts of GoGo No-coda ended up on lame in the end :-D)
<Begasus>
Installed it through the PE installer in Win98
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<OscarL>
The PC I used back the was so bad... that it wasn't even VESA compatible!
<OscarL>
BeOS in Black and White!!!
<OscarL>
Still.. I've tried and tried...
<Begasus>
that was pretty good here, specially with the work RudulfC did back then on the nvidia driver
<OscarL>
Untill I found that I could use a TSR to make it VBE 1.something compatible... (UniVBE was the name of the program)
<OscarL>
Then... BeOS ran in (almost) all its glory :-D
<Begasus>
Did some demo's back in the days, remember loading all the PC stuff in the car :D
<OscarL>
Begasus: Today I wrote again to RudolfC... telling him too that all his work was much appreciated!
<Begasus>
was lucky nothing ever got broken during the travels
<OscarL>
(even if I never had a supported card on BeOS)
<Begasus>
It was and still is a group effort, I think because RudofC is also Dutch speaking he was one of the first I had really some connection with :)
<Begasus>
These days I poke nielx[m] for rust issues ;)
<OscarL>
Begasus: Promotion works also great! Thank you for that too!
<Begasus>
;)
<OscarL>
(man, I'm lagging as if I was on my old PCTel modem back on 2004)
<OscarL>
Now it is my brain the on lagging :-(
<Begasus>
Had some nice talks with pavel (pixel32) back in the days also (did some of the translation there also)
<OscarL>
Please excuse if my replies came out of order.
<OscarL>
*excuse me.
<Begasus>
My RAM isn't up to speed anymore too :)
<Begasus>
HW is falling behind .. :P
<Begasus>
anyway, time to close down here
<Begasus>
early day again tomorrow :)
<OscarL>
Begasus: Thanks a lot for the chat. And "Be" well!
<OscarL>
See you!!!
<Begasus>
Thanks OscarL same to you!
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<OscarL>
jmairboeck: Just noticed that you're a Haiku sponsor. Thank you, on behalf of many of us that can't do so!
<OscarL>
(some of use are really broke, or even if we manage to spare some change... can't find a way to get that out of our backward countries)
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