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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56575] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=429cbf22207b+%5Eede527512e3a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 429cbf22207b - NetServices: include libnetservices2.a in the HaikuDevel package
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<pengphei> for unicode referring data, it uses unicode license, but our haikuporter can't recognise it, how could I add unicode license to it?
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<x512[m]> Add license file to package?
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<pengphei> yes
<pengphei> we couldn't specify unicode license
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<pengphei> x512[m]: I made it with licenses fold spicified
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<netpositive> morning
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Netpositive
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<matt3> love to everybody, peace ... :D
<matt3> the black hole is a fantasy ...
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<november31st[m]> 🤘🤝
<matt3> who or what gives the strength to keep a planet imploded?
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<matt3> hi november31st[m]
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<matt3> hi rennj
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<matt3> what could i tell you ... peace ...
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<Vidrep_64> zdykstra, kind of suprised that someone is working on ffmpegGUI after all this time?
<zdykstra> yes
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<Vidrep_64> Haiku has a MediaConverter that has never really worked that well, so this is a welcome effort from BlueSky76
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<Vidrep_64> zdykstra, Have you ever thought about working on it again yourself?
<zdykstra> I haven't touched C++ in ages and ages, so I couldn't contribute much - and it seems like it's in good hands now :)
<Vidrep_64> It's good that HaikuArchives exists to preserve all the open sourced BeOS/Haiku apps. waddlesplash's idea if I remember correctly
<waddlesplash> yes
<waddlesplash> one of my first big contributions to the Haiku ecosystem way back in 2013 or so
<Vidrep_64> It's hard to believe that it was long ago
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<Vidrep_64> Will there be an effort by the Haiku devs at some point to address the functionality of some of the apps included with the base Haiku install? eg. TV and Media Converter come to mind
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<Vidrep_64> The TV app could one day have the ability to play a video streaming service such as Pluto TV or Samsung TV Plus
<PulkoMandy> TV is designed for TV tuners and nothing else, for streaming you're probably better off using MediaPlayer in some way
<PulkoMandy> Media Converter, I wish I could understand what's going on, I think the app itself is mostly fine but the whole encoding part of the media kit is broken
<PulkoMandy> and everyone who writes an app decides to ignore that and use ffmpeg directly, so no one works on it and it remains broken
<Vidrep_64> Maybe time for a decision on what direction to go? MediaKit or ffmpeg
<Vidrep_64> We have the foundation in MediaPlayer for streaming already. I use it mostly for podcasts and streaming radio stations (BePodder and StreamRadio)
<Vidrep_64> It's generally not too bad
<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, thanks for responding
<Vidrep_64> Beta 4 will be a good step up from Beta 3. Lot's of improvements
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<Vidrep_64> "PulkoMandy, you're probably better off using MediaPlayer in some way". Hopefully, one day I won't need to boot Linux to use Kodi
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<bbjimmy> Weather is broken after updating haiku... Missing symbol: _ZT120BUrlProtocolListener
<bbjimmy> As my wife would say, "It's dead Jim."
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<matt3> hi Skipp_OSX
<Skipp_OSX> heyo
<matt3> hi, i have skipped os x ...
<matt3> in past no ... but now ok
<Skipp_OSX> you're running macOS 11 or 12?
<Skipp_OSX> hehehehehe
<matt3> no linux + win 10
<matt3> and sometimes haiku @ usb key
<Skipp_OSX> oooooooh ok ok that's good
<Skipp_OSX> you're were I was before March 24, 2001
<Skipp_OSX> only linux + win98
<Skipp_OSX> *where
<matt3> os x + mac book => only 4 rich people ... not good ;D
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<Skipp_OSX> yeah but mac os x was such a revolution in terms of combining some of the best aspects of Linux and Windows into one that it was and is irresistible to those who can afford the entrance fee into the walled garden.
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<matt3> yes, me too Skipp_OSX ... so i tried a powerbook g4 with os x from 10.2 to 10.4
<Skipp_OSX> ooooo tibook pretty fancy, do you remember how much vram the machine had?
<matt3> ?! maybe 1 G
<Skipp_OSX> not possible
<Skipp_OSX> vram video ram, not main memory
<matt3> after it was old => debian ppc ... ubuntu ppc
<matt3> ah, vram ... bohh
<matt3> 512 mb ?
<waddlesplash> bbjimmy: yes, ABI breaks for b4 have started. a bit of pain on the nightlies the next few days while we work on that
<Skipp_OSX> somewhere between 16mb and 64mb assuming you were running a ti book that was contemporaneous to 10.2
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<Skipp_OSX> basically I ask because you needed 64mb of vram to run quartz 3d and that was needed to have a good experience on MacOS X
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<matt3> Skipp_OSX => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4 if i remember it was a 12 " ... so PowerBook6,4 (12")
<matt3> number 6 => aaaaarg
<Skipp_OSX> ah a 12" mbp so not a tibook,. Probably had 32mb of vram then unless it was later on
<matt3> destroied ... yes i am crazy 4 numbers ... xD
<Skipp_OSX> if it was a 6,4 it never ran Jaguar but ok, that's reasonable
<matt3> NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 with 64 MB of DDR SDRAM (12")
<matt3> and morphos no => nvidia => no
<Skipp_OSX> ok yeah that's pretty nice, that would definitely run Quartz 3d
<Skipp_OSX> so that machine would carry you until 10.6 Snow Leopard, then you'd have to get an x86 Mac
<matt3> i have installed from dvd : tiger and leopard ppc
<Skipp_OSX> but for 10.3 Panther, 10.4 Lion and 10.5 Leopard that would be a pretty nice Mac and that's a good number of years
<Skipp_OSX> errr you're right 10.4 was Tiger, not Lion ...
<matt3> np
<Skipp_OSX> yeah of course that's how you installed Tiger and Leopard after paying $129 for the privilege
<matt3> nice to talk with you ...
<Skipp_OSX> ok nice talk good times
<matt3> cu ...
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<augiedoggie> for you Weather problem
<augiedoggie> your*
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