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<rennj> bump!!
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<rennj> Roko's basilisk the AI from the future is going to torture you! for not creating it sooner...time traveling AI machines from the future.
<rennj> now that you know of it, you will be tortured https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
<rennj> hell raiser squared
<CompanionCube> roko's basilisk is pascal's wager for nerds
<rennj> that is talked about in the wiki
<rennj> In 2014, Slate magazine called Roko's basilisk "The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time"
<rennj> hmmm i dont know about that
<rennj> heat death of universe is pretty much ending
<rennj> entropy and work and all
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 287b343 - libdazzle: bump for rebuild
<rennj> escape that mr. AI
<rennj> the heat the death of the universe..where is there to go
<rennj> the heat death of the universe..where is there to go
<rennj> yeah but who created Frankenstein's monster...diff pascal wager...external Deity
<rennj> we built AI...humanism
<rennj> Knowledge is knowing that Frankenstein was the doctor. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein was the monster all along.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 7b8473b - geany: bump for rebuild
<rennj> now release the kraken! beta4!!!!!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56601] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=084308538462+%5E5728bdf606fa
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 084308538462 - FAT: Limit volume names to 11 characters, not 10.
<rennj> listen > 4TB support for files or go home...
<rennj> Large QCOW files (> 4TiB) are now supported (#4767)
<rennj> hmmm big
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9f5f047 - girara: bump for rebuild
<rennj> who geany ide
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<win8linux[m]> Good morn!
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<Begasus> morning win8linux[m]
<netpositive> morning
<win8linux[m]> Currently trying to compile a game that uses Squirrel for scripting, however it gets hung up on not being abkle to find the libraries for Squirrel.
<win8linux[m]> /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/11.2.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lsquirrel
<win8linux[m]> /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/11.2.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lsqstdlib
<win8linux[m]> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
<win8linux[m]> These are the `LDFLAGS` in the Makefile:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/OdiyOKGraMZGcCWrasvfPHxI>)
<win8linux[m]> `squirrel_devel` is already installed.
<Begasus> do you have the ... :)
<Begasus> was about to ask :)
<win8linux[m]> It's for an in-progress recipe, yeah.
<Begasus> it doesn't seem to provide any library?
<Begasus> let me have a look at it again
<win8linux[m]> This is the patchset so far for adding Haiku support to it:
<Begasus> I meant squirrel :)
<Begasus> in the meantime, Geany and Claws-Mail broken on 32bit after recent changes
<win8linux[m]> I know, it's there just in case it could be useful.
<win8linux[m]> <Begasus> "it doesn't seem to provide any..." <- I did try finding the development libraries earlier without success.
<win8linux[m]> Couldn't find them in the usual locations.
<Begasus> nothing in the packages, think I made an error in the original recipe :)
<Begasus> ah no, that was scottmc :)
<Begasus> grabbing latest version and switching to cmake
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<Begasus_32> Warning: POLICY ERROR: no matching provides "lib:libsquirrel3_x86" for "lib/libsquirrel3.so"
<Begasus> progress :)
<Begasus> biab
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 60a4c0a - AbiWord: add recipe for 3.0.5 version
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<Begasus> moin lelldorin
<lelldorin> moin Begasus
<lelldorin> Begasus: because you does not get right with my recipecreator i will change the config way step by step
<Begasus> If you have something to check you know how to reach me lelldorin :)
<lelldorin> yes i know. i need to make things clear and easy
<Begasus> win8linux[m], you got haikuporter setup right?
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 3d3cba0 - AbiWord: change SOURCE_URI (https certificate outdated on official site)
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<humdinger> morning!
<lelldorin> moin humdinger
<Begasus> moin humdinger
<Begasus> anyone running 64bit?
<humdinger> me
<win8linux[m]> <Begasus> "win8linux, you got haikuporter..." <- Yes
<Begasus> that was for those running 64bit
<Begasus> win8linux[m], will push a recipe in a bit for squirrel, could you try to build and report back?
<win8linux[m]> Sure thing.
<humdinger> Begasus: hmm, installing from HaikuDepot doesn't cut it, right? need to build with hp?
<Begasus> Geany and Claws-Mail should be available
<Begasus> installed both with pkgman
<Begasus> well ran "pkgman update" first (that pulled in update on geany)
<humdinger> geany in HD is 1.38.0-2, the recipe is 1.38.0-4
<humdinger> ah
<humdinger> it'll take a while until all those stupid dependencies are installed...
<Begasus> don't have gtk etc installed?
<Begasus> coffee*
<humdinger> I normally try to stay away from those mega-ports. Cleaned out much stuff after trying all "freatured" packages.
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<Begasus> Well Geany isn't that big, only what it needs :P
<humdinger> it's still donloading stuff here.HaikuDepot, unfortunately, doesn't report any more what it does...
<humdinger> transaction folder is at 328 MiB!
<humdinger> Finished. Geany launches alright
<Begasus> thanks, so it's a 32bit issue then
<Begasus> if this could get fixed Bluefish is around the corner (getting the same errors there) :)
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<Begasus> latest AbiWord around the corner, buildmaster on 32bit almost done
<humdinger> Claws works too at 64bit
<Begasus> I think it's because wayland is now imported in gtk that I see the errors now, previous geany was build with xlibe
<humdinger> When Beta4 is out, I'll install it from scratch and confine all ports-testing etc. to an extra installation on another partition to keep my 'production' system clean.
<Begasus> win8linux[m], any progress there?
<win8linux[m]> Sorry, had to take a bath.
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<Begasus> oops :)
<Begasus> Fixed :) Thanks to pointer from 3dEyes!
<prosy> anyone here (still) knows the X11R6.3-BeOS package from the days back in 2001/2002 and if there is a working copy for haiku? I know, it's hopelessly outdated but maybe useful (at least for me (-: )
<x512[m]> prosy: It is possible to build Xsdl for Haiku.
<prosy> x512[m]: match! :-) thx a lot!
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<x512[m]> Also Xlibe that implements xlib over Haiku API: https://github.com/waddlesplash/xlibe
* humdinger waves
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<win8linux[m]> <Begasus> "win8linux, any progress there?" <- Unfortunately no, your updated Squirrel recipe didn't help with progressing the build.
<Begasus> where is the source you are trying to build?
<win8linux[m]> Hold on, I'll push the recipe to my HaikuPorts fork.
<Begasus> k
<Begasus> grabbing ... git checkout --track ... ;)
<Begasus> devel:libsqstdlib$secondaryArchSuffix -> devel:libsqstdlib3$secondaryArchSuffix
<Begasus> cmd:squirrel3
<win8linux[m]> I tried that locally already.
<Begasus> checking here
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<Begasus> needs libnetwork also win8linux[m]
<Begasus> in the Makefile add "3" to the squirrel libs
<Begasus_32> ZGameWindow_ZProgRobot_Asm.cpp:(.text+0x20b2): undefined reference to `ZEditCode::EditCode(ZString*, ZString*)'
<Begasus> Other error now
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<matt3> hello mmu_man ... just hello ... ;)
<win8linux[m]> <Begasus_32> "ZGameWindow_ZProgRobot_Asm.cpp:(..." <- Yep, hitting this error now too.
<matt3> Z ;)
<matt3> free Zeta os xD
<matt3> libre Zeta os ...
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<win8linux[m]> Hmm, there are actually quite a fair bit more undefined refs.
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes b40e44e - appstream_glib: fix libuuid version
<win8linux[m]> Hmm, maybe this is halting the build?... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HJwpEgHOzxQVvMonHLpPfhgH>)
<Begasus> is that at the end?
<win8linux[m]> Getting this now after adding `getconf` to the build prereqs:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/AEHtaStRrftcnMXbPlxnnUdl>)
<Begasus> no idea there
<matt3> hi Begasus
<Begasus> I see that it includes it's own source for squirrel though
<Begasus> hi matt3
<matt3> peace and freedom :)
<Begasus> so probably my version is to new and introduces the error?
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<win8linux[m]> Begasus: The Haiku-specific changes to the Makefile are based on the FreeBSD support, which is known to work.
<win8linux[m]> Does this mean that their own Squirrel source needs to be patched for Haiku as well?
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<Begasus_32> make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'sq'.
<Begasus> it's not being build atm
<Begasus> should be sq32 (for 32bit)
<Begasus> Gimp up and running now, thanks to 3dEyes :)
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<Begasus> win8linux[m], gentoo has some patches, not sure if it fixes the errors: https://data.gpo.zugaina.org/guru/games-action/blackvoxel/files/
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<Begasus_32> if [ $effectiveTargetArchitecture = x86 ]; then
<Begasus_32> export CPU_BITS=32
<Begasus_32> else
<Begasus_32> export CPU_BITS=64
<Begasus_32> fi
<Begasus> win8linux[m], try to add that in BUILD before make starts
<Begasus> that builds the internal squirrel, so no need for our port in the recipe
<Begasus> doesn't fix it though :)
<rennj> the internal squirrel
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<Begasus> biab
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
* phschafft waves.
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<Begasus_32> win8linux[m] .... grabbing blackvoxel_x86-2.5-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/blackvoxel_x86-2.5-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
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<Molnija> why that test, and not eh, running a program that gives us sizeof((void*))?
<Begasus> Molnija, if I knew how to, that test is the easy part :)
<Begasus> in the Makefile they use getconf to get the CPU_BITS, but Haiku doesn't support LONG_BIT so we can't use that
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes cab5165 - Inkscape: reorganization to work in secondary arch
<win8linux[m]> <Begasus_32> "win8linux .... grabbing blackvox..." <- Does it work on x86_gcc2?
<Begasus> didn't go so far to test it, no data was installed
<Begasus> crashes on launch ;) (no info in Terminal)
<Begasus> heading of to grandchildren
<Begasus> cu later!
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<andreasdr[m]> 🙃
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<Javanx> I'm sorry to bother by asking, but I have a problem I couldn't get around and maybe someone already faced it. The SoftwareUpdater is failing to update things by requiring beta4, but I have all repositories set to beta3, so not sure why it's complaining
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<win8linux[m]> <Begasus> "win8linux, try to add that in..." <- The internal Squirrel source still isn't being built here, after adding this.
<Javanx> Seems my problem with the updater was caused by haikuports repository, I temporarily disabled it. But I thought it would provide packages for the stable release, while instead it seems to be targeting beta4 already
<B2IA> (AGMS) I don't think HaikuPorts has a specific bunch of packages for a particular release. It used to, but that was back in Beta2 days, I vaguely recall.
<B2IA> (AGMS) And the HaikuPorter builder just gloms onto the version of Haiku you were building with, so if you build with Beta4, it starts requiring Beta4 things.
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<matt3> the problem of java is the same of c++ : the libraries
<matt3> pascal is ok, basic also => libraries inside the exe
<matt3> uses crt;
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<matt3> java, c++, other like python and interpreted => blackmail
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<matt3> hello, is all ok ?
<matt3> ;)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi
<andreasdr[m]> All goood
<matt3> ok !!!
<andreasdr[m]> How are you?
<matt3> fine, andreasdr[m]
<matt3> listening to christmas music ...
<matt3> christ mas => i think => the christ says : no one disappears => mas : never ... xD
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<andreasdr[m]> Ok :DDD
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<Begasus> win8linux[m], yeah saw it also after a clean buid
<Begasus> tackling other things tomorrow
<Begasus> for now, cu peeps!
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<matt3> ad mos = a mosfet of adventum dei ...
<matt3> a joke ... i apologize ...
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<rennj> Atari's 50th Anniversary Collection Includes 100 Games, Interviews, and Addictive New Titles
<rennj> Vctr Sctr apparently manages to combine updated versions of Asteroids, Lunar Lander, , and Tempest (in increasingly difficult waves). The article notes it's just one of six "reimagined" titles in Atari 50, but calls Vctr Sctr "a perfect brain-break game, an excuse to ignore the outside world for a quick, distracting burst of focused, high-energy chaos.
<rennj> w00t retro computing
<rennj> warez, arrr matey, sail the seven sea's!
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