<Vidrep_64>
It looks like all my open Webpositive tickets can be closed. Amazon, Airmiles and TD Easyweb all working now with HaikuWebKit 1.9.0 WebKit 615.1.10 (master)
<AlienSoldier>
Vidrep_64 sadly 32bit version seem unavailable
<Vidrep_64>
Now if we can get rid of the flashing webpages
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<Vidrep_64>
Also, downloads never start
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<AlienSoldier>
just noticed someting in web+ today. if you use a letter alone before your search in the url box, it use different search engine in the alphabetical order on how they are in the setting
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<Vidrep_64>
AlienSoldier, looks like a couple of new bugs
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<Vidrep_64>
The hardwarechecker.sh script might have come in handy when testing for Beta 4 hardware compatability
<AlienSoldier>
Vidrep_64 whay is this flashing webpage problem?
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<AlienSoldier>
*what
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<AlienSoldier>
was it also in 1.8?
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<Vidrep_64>
Some websites constantly flash. It's a known issue
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<Vidrep_64>
AlienSoldier, try this URL. It will start flashing once the page loads and you try scrolling https://www.astrosafari.com/
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<Skipp_OSX>
beta 4 yet?
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<outsidecontext>
hi, has anyone some idea about https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18109 and if I could provide any additional debugging info? This looks to me like it should get figured out before next beta
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<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 24e31ff - harfbuzz: split glib/gobject library into a separate package
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi
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<da_snowbird>
howdy haiku-ers
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi da_snowbird
<extrowerk>
tried to compile Ardour on Haiku, but it depends on GTK2 instead of GTK3 :(
<da_snowbird>
^^ same with hexchat :/
<extrowerk>
why would anybody use hexchat on Haiku if there is Vision?
<AlienSoldier>
because sometime app get regression (it is one thing i learned using haiku)
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<da_snowbird>
mostly out of familiarity and nostalgia, same reason I skin audacious as winamp lol
<AlienSoldier>
nostalgia really kick the lama ass
<da_snowbird>
also it's insane how much progress haiku seems to have made in the past beta cycle
<AlienSoldier>
i still wait to try webkit 1.9 in 32bit to see if it improve the web experience a bit.
<AlienSoldier>
i don't know why the build was not simultaneous with the 64bit one
<da_snowbird>
more ram requirement perhaps? if not xcompiling
<AlienSoldier>
is 1.9 supposed to be part of beta4? i guess not
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<PulkoMandy>
AlienSoldier, the build for 32bit failed
<PulkoMandy>
madmax made a pull request to fix the problem. I just don't have a lot of time to merge it and no other haiku dev seem to check pull request on webkit or they all expect me to do all the work, so it's a bit slow
<PulkoMandy>
I will probably do a 1.9.1 since there are various small fixes already
<PulkoMandy>
I don't know if waddlesplash will include it in the final beta image or if it's already too late for that, in the latter case it will be available as an update
<waddlesplash>
i would like to include it in final beta yes
<waddlesplash>
however that download problem is a blocker
<PulkoMandy>
yes, but we can switch back to netservices instead of curl (I fixed the crash on exit with netservices yesterday)
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<waddlesplash>
PulkoMandy: yes, possibly, I saw the libwebp change
<waddlesplash>
however I don't think system malloc is expected to align to 16 bytes by default on 32-bit
<waddlesplash>
... perhaps it's another stack alignment thing?
<PulkoMandy>
the object is allocated with new, so the stack isn't involved
<PulkoMandy>
webkit just expects malloc to align things on 16 bytes and we don't except on x86_64
<waddlesplash>
that doesn't make much sense
<PulkoMandy>
I don't know if their expectation is correct, but it seems easier to align malloc on 16 bytes than to fix all webkit code (where there isn't much to do, the assumption is probably somewhere deep in gcc)
<waddlesplash>
who generated an "A" instruction here?
<waddlesplash>
"Regular malloc aligns memory suitable for any object type (which, in practice, means that it is aligned to alignof(max_align_t)). aligned_alloc is useful for over-aligned allocations, such as to SSE, cache line, or VM page boundary. "
<waddlesplash>
so, what
<waddlesplash>
's max_align_t on 32-bit? did we do something incorrect here?
<da_snowbird>
For anyone having the Web/epiphany/gimp crash issue: reinstalling gdk_pixbuf seems to have fixed it for me.
<waddlesplash>
yes it seems gdk_pixbuf is very unreliable
<da_snowbird>
I can't believe I can do 99% of my daily tasks in Haiku now, I'm thrilled by how hard y'all have worked.
<AlienSoldier>
seem epiphany did not made it to 32bit yet
<Skipp_OSX>
what can I do to get the release notes in order?
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<jmairboeck>
I found my problem from yesterday with xlibe: the problem is that tk_devel contains some X11 headers which are incompatible with xlibe and/or xorgproto, it seems.
<waddlesplash>
the problem appears to be that BackgroundElements in TK get placed on top of everything else. I can't manage to figure out why this is
<jmairboeck>
I guess that means I have to disable X11 support in my new OpenCascade port. I hope the new official version contains a bit more without X11 support than the OCE version we have right now.
<jmairboeck>
that one is missing half of the libraries it seems
<jmairboeck>
Up to now, I have only built and used OpenCascade on Windows, which doesn't use X11 at all of course
<waddlesplash>
PulkoMandy: seems alignof max_align_t == 8 on 32-bit
<waddlesplash>
so, this won't fix anything
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<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 5f40b96c3509 - libroot: Adjust malloc_hoard2 to use max_align_t when available.
<waddlesplash>
PulkoMandy: I also don't think we should necessarily revert to the curl backend. it seems a bunch of issues got fixed with the curl backend according to Vidrep
<waddlesplash>
the Windows WebKitLegacy has separate files for WebDownload for each backend
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<PulkoMandy>
did you check alignof(max_align_t) to be 8? I see in gcc stddef.h it is defined as a struct, and for i386 there is a special case so the struct includes a float128, which should be 16 byte aligned
<PulkoMandy>
it has a #ifdef __i386__, do we define that?