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<andreasdr[m]> Nice!
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<netpositive> morning
<Begasus> morning netpositive
<Begasus> crossing fingers for buildmaster :)
<netpositive> hope the best 8)
<Begasus> yay! Thanks kallisti5[m] ! :)
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<Begasus> g'morning OscarL !
<OscarL> Hello there, dear Begasus!
<OscarL> (and netpositive... and everyone already awake)
<Begasus> just Begasus is fine :) (I almost read that as deer) :P
<OscarL> LOL :-D
<Begasus> Hunting season is near :P
<OscarL> no wonder you don't want that deer near your name :-P
<Begasus> Koder build OK now too at buildmaster
<OscarL> awesome!
<netpositive> hola OscarL 8)
<Begasus> flac building atm
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<OscarL> I'll try the 3.10.8 on 32 bits... and see about renaming it to python3.10 (to keep it inline with 3.7 and 3.9).
<Begasus> ok :)
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<Begasus> upload package haiku-r1~beta4_hrev56578_4-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg to builder ... :D
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<Begasus> k, checking a build for brexx on 64bit (that failed on buildmaster)
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> re
<Begasus> for a bit :)
* OscarL is not so sure if enabling optimizations for Python 3.10.8 was such a good idea. Build time goes WAY up :-(
<Begasus> Does the port benifit a lot when enabled?
<OscarL> that's the thing... in my tests (mosly ruining Python's own test-suite), I don't see much difference.
<Begasus> Then why the stress? :P
<OscarL> not sure how it behaves on other workloads, though.
<OscarL> Diver wanted it! :-P
<Begasus> hehe
<OscarL> (and at least was worth a try, I guess)
<Begasus> mightt aswell leave it running now :)
<OscarL> yup. But I doubt I'll leave it enabled on next runs :-D It is killing my old CPU, he he.
<Begasus> You could disable it for local builds and enable for buildmaster
<Begasus> if things are OK there * :)
<OscarL> That's the thing... I needed at least to try once, as to not submit some change that would cause the builtmaster to implode :-P
<Begasus> please no! :P
<Begasus> k, heading off to dogschool, cu later!
<OscarL> memory usage during build also goes up (almost 1200 MB currently)
<OscarL> later Begasus!
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<OscarL> jmairboeck: that link you shared on ticket #14036 was both awesome, and scary :-D
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<matt3> no tengo nobio ;D
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<BrunoSpr> why is my ralinkwifi not working? http://0x0.st/oEmS.png
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<Begasus> re
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<jmairboeck> Begasus: have you been sucessful building lilypond on 32 bit?
<Begasus> yep, hence the screenshot I showed last week
<jmairboeck> but only without documentation?
<Begasus> with the docs I think, I have 14 packages here
<jmairboeck> ok, perfect
<Begasus> including the debug package
<jmairboeck> I am currently doing a full rebuild (on 64 bit) just to be sure, after the dependencies change, but it is looking good
<Begasus> 12 doc packages
<jmairboeck> building the documentation takes a few hours here
<jmairboeck> yes, that looks correct
<Begasus> it's time to stop discussing whether or not to merge and make some survey like they do on gerrit
<jmairboeck> I think I can push and create the PR while it is still building?
<Begasus> so let's hope we get plenty + :)
<jmairboeck> I also think so, Begasus
<jmairboeck> Let's get it into the Depot
<Begasus> I already set my +1 there :)
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<xylobol[m]> 🅱️egasus
<jmairboeck> already seen (and approved) it
<Begasus> yeah :)
<Begasus> If things are OK on your side make sure to add a +1 also there! :)
<Begasus> hi xylobol[m]
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<Begasus> completed hactoberfest here it seems :)
<xylobol[m]> hello hello
<Begasus> maybe I will get a t-shirt this year :P
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<jmairboeck> I just created a PR for the lilypond requirements changes. it is still building, but an "unclean" build yesterday was already successful
<Begasus> that can be merged before the one for texlive jmairboeck ?
<jmairboeck> yes, it should be
<Begasus> OK :)
<jmairboeck> thanks :)
<Begasus> :)
<jmairboeck> meh, now git thinks that these two conflict ...
<jmairboeck> I already expected that, although it wouldn't need to if it was smart enough
<jmairboeck> I'll fix that after my build is finished
<Begasus> k, give a shout when done :)
<bjorkint0sh> does haiku run on chromebooks?
<Begasus> no idea here bjorkint0sh
<bjorkint0sh> that would be neat.
<Begasus> did you try booting from USB?
<bjorkint0sh> not yet.
<Begasus> That would be my first check :)
<jmairboeck> if they are arm based then probably not yet, because the arm port is not yet working really
<bjorkint0sh> they're arm based.
<Begasus> fixes the conflict jmairboeck ?
<jmairboeck> yes, I did it directly on github
<Begasus> k
<jmairboeck> normally I would have rebased the branch and force-pushed, but I hope this is also okay.
<Begasus> I would not push any changes if things are OK to either dblatex/lilypond/texlive before we get some clearance on this :)
<jmairboeck> from my side, all 3 of them are now "done"
<Begasus> nice!
<Begasus> add a +1 to the survey then ;)
<jmairboeck> I have done :)
<Begasus> You added a thumbs up on my +1 ;)
<jmairboeck> there is some potential to improve texlive packaging (as discussed in the issue, and concerning the hyphenation patterns as seen in the lilypond recipe) but I am not smart and/or motivated enough to try that
<Begasus> Well should be good either way
<jmairboeck> I have added my own comment as well
<Begasus> It's working fine as it is, what comes next can be dealt with later :)
<jmairboeck> thanks
<jmairboeck> I am already thinking about the next big haikuports project, at least I have some plans ...
<Begasus> PulkoMandy, jessicah mmu_man Diver waddlesplash ... could you give your thoughts on the PR?
<Begasus> I don't know all the names from the haikuports contributers but would be nice if thoughs (+1 vs -1) could be added :)
<jmairboeck> Is extrowerk still around?
<Begasus> not very active ...
<Begasus> but I wouldn't wait on that for fontforge
<jmairboeck> my next planned project is that I want to try to replace our port of opencascade with the official version
<Begasus> the recipe (PR) needs work any way
<jmairboeck> the current one is based on OCE (OpenCASCADE community edition), but that is not really active any more, and the official version is now much easier available, so OCE isn't really needed any more
<jmairboeck> and the current port is missing the parts that presumably depend on X11, which is quite a lot, also for stuff that is not really GUI related
<jmairboeck> and even if X11 is needed, we now have xlibe which should be possible to cover that
<Begasus> I think xlibe is still a wip
<jmairboeck> it is good enough for GTK at least
<Begasus> well gtk is also still wip, but granted got along a lot further lately
<Begasus> wayland is going fine also, but also not ready for public
<jmairboeck> anyway, I tried to build a few little tools a colleague has built that we use at work and it didn't work on Haiku with the current OCE based opencascade
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<jmairboeck> I did add OCE support to it because of it, but it didn't work: https://github.com/aleutgeb/STEPToMesh/pull/1
<Begasus> PR already from March jmairboeck .. not much activity?
<jmairboeck> yes, my colleague is not very fast on merging PRs :)
<jmairboeck> I don't want to call him out about it in public like this ...
<Begasus> ;)
<jmairboeck> in fact we are currently using the version from our fork because of this because we need that "unit" feature
<jmairboeck> because there are customers in America that want imperial units instead of metric ones
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, what's the difference for the OCE releases? https://github.com/tpaviot/oce/releases
<jmairboeck> OCE isn't really updated any more, there are newer versions of the official verson
<Begasus> I'm seeing 7.6.0 at repology, in the link just posted latest there should be 7.5.0?
<jmairboeck> downloads from the website still require an an account, but the repository is now available: https://git.dev.opencascade.org/gitweb/?p=occt.git
<jmairboeck> the current patch release is 7.6.3, the official downloads don't even include patch releases
<jmairboeck> but for haikuports we would have to use the repository snapshots anyway
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<Begasus> haven't touched it for a long while, so I will leave that up to you :)
<jmairboeck> I am not sure if the GUI parts work with xlibe, but since version 7.6, Tk is optional, so it works as a command-line only version as well
<jmairboeck> Our STEP tools are probably not that useful in general, so I will not create a recipe for them, but it would be cool if they could be built on Haiku :)
<Begasus> :)
<Begasus> time for the dogs here :)
<jmairboeck> clean build of lilypond is finished :)
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<BrunoSpr> for me: http://0x0.st/oEMB.png
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<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps!
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<matt3> hello boys and girls xD
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<matt3> jason123santa : santa claus ?
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<AlienSoldier> is repliman broken? i seem to othe desktop. nly be able to see deskbar replicant with it, none on
<AlienSoldier> the show replican also don't show the little hand anymore either
<AlienSoldier> hrev56465 (i reverted to this until web+ work again)
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<AlienSoldier> wtf, vision test entry caused an insersion?
<AlienSoldier> *is repliman broken? i seem to only see the deskbar , no replican on the desktop
<AlienSoldier> i seem to see the replican handle in apps but no longer when put on desktop
<AlienSoldier> replican like friss with the remove replicant in the menu can be removed
<AlienSoldier> the about replican can be removed from on spot on the desktop but not from another, weird
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