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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56617] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d48f4fd05f20+%5E9d679d7f5af1
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d5c130a3f9df - ramfs: Whitespace fixes, no functional change.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 05fdda96b74e - ramfs: Acquire write lock before unmounting.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d48f4fd05f20 - ramfs: Prevent creating files or directories named "." and "..".
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56618] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f6166140a197+%5Ed48f4fd05f20
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f6166140a197 - build: Define _BOOT_MODE once and for all in ArchitectureRules+BootRules.
<waddlesplash> days since last evil (ab)use of placement new: 0
<waddlesplash> new(slab) ::slab();
<waddlesplash> (it's behind an #if DEBUG... at least)
<Skipp_OSX> I was thinking of trying to condense the monthly reports into release notes
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6599d4367e9e...39126a4f9b3f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 39126a4 - webkit_gtk: enable bmalloc, introspection
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<waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: I was going to work on that myself at some point
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<rennj> thinking the first problem
<rennj> get the vaccine shot , you anti science wacko
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56619] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=80ae26e14b29+%5Ef6166140a197
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 549abba75f89 - kernel/low_resource_manager: Use new/delete instead of malloc/free.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8f75eaafd011 - VMAnonymousCache: Use new/delete instead of malloc/free.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 80ae26e14b29 - kernel/legacy_drivers: Use new/delete instead of malloc/free.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/39126a4f9b3f...b06839d3a5ae
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes b06839d - libwebp: Disable sse instructions only for x86_gcc2 target arch"
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56620] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8426404f97ad+%5E80ae26e14b29
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8426404f97ad - pch_i2c: move to its own directory
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6a8bb0562e6c - ramfs: Correct usage of Nodes in Entry.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56621] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4e742d81ab09+%5E8426404f97ad
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 605ecac1ee39 - ramfs: Correct "reference" (link) counting of Node objects.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4e742d81ab09 - ramfs: Volume->WriteLock but do not unlock in unmount.
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Is it just me or there has been a lot of movement lately?
<waddlesplash> well, the release is coming up
<waddlesplash> so a lot of fixes going in for that...
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<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Oh. That's exciting.
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<AmyMalik> oooooooooooooooooooo
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-3/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b06839d3a5ae...6cb4e378f368
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6cb4e37 - Telegram: bump version
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6cb4e378f368...811dcaa9c9b4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 811dcaa - filezilla: new recipe (#7500)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56622] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fb69e0619555+%5E4e742d81ab09
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 616edea7fb13 - boot_loader: load amd microcode update data file
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fb69e0619555 - kernel: load cpu amd microcode update if loaded by the bootloader
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/811dcaa9c9b4...291253941940
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 2912539 - VLC: bump version
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
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<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Good morning andreasdr:
<andreasdr[m]> Barmendu Chakraborty: Good morning
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/291253941940...1a6b0677175e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 1a6b067 - Revert "VLC: bump version"
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1a6b0677175e...564cb501a61d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 564cb50 - libhandy: enable introspection
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<Halian|Haiku> Henlo! Is there by chance a port of Firefox or Chromium, either released or in progress? None of the Haiku-native web browsers will load Twitch.tv X3
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<win8linux[m]> The closest is Falkon, which uses QtWebEngine.
<win8linux[m]> QtWebEngine is based on Blink, the web engine that Chromium uses.
<Halian|Haiku> Ah
<Halian|Haiku> Unfortunately Falkon isn't working that well for me :
<Halian|Haiku> :/ *
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<da_snowbird> howdy haiku-ers.
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<Halian|Haiku> da_snowbird: hi
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<da_snowbird> what gpu has everyone had the best luck with on Haiku? going to build a haiku-specific machine
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<Halian|Haiku> Good question! I haven't had success with the AMD Radeon RX 580 in my desktop, Fireblade; I always have to use the fallback drivers
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> GPU's have performance based on OS?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I did not know that
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<Halian|Haiku> BarmenduChakraborty[m]: it mainly revolves around the presence or absence of good drivers (or drivers at all)
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Okayy.... that makes sense
<da_snowbird> I have an AMD card as well and I also have to use the vesa driver, wasn't sure if there was a preferred card that works well with the driver.
<da_snowbird> with its own driver*
<Halian|Haiku> It'd help if video cards weren't $$$$$ >_>
<da_snowbird> definitely big money right now. I've got enough saved I think I'll snag a decent used Lenovo ThinkCentre or something and slap a graphics card in it. Would like to add a sound card too, just for the sake of spending money on nostalgia since I'm sure its not going to be much better than onboard audio
<Halian|Haiku> NIce
<Halian|Haiku> I'm running on a ThinkPad X120e right now. I didn't think I was capable of liking a smol laptop this much
<da_snowbird> oh I like that. I have a x230 that needs some love. needs a new fan, battery, and A/C adaptor. I'll probably move a haiku install over to it if and when I acquire those things.
<Halian|Haiku> Oof :(
<Halian|Haiku> Definitely slap an SSD in it
<da_snowbird> got it for us$20 a couple years back, so it wasn't a bad deal honestly
<Halian|Haiku> Nice
<Halian|Haiku> I got this for $30 off a friend
<da_snowbird> good buy!
<Halian|Haiku> :D thanks
<da_snowbird> you can't beat a cheap thinkpad
<Halian|Haiku> ^
<Halian|Haiku> I want to get a T420 at some point, also one with a butterfly keyboard
<da_snowbird> love the butterfly keyboard one
<da_snowbird> I am excited for the aarch64 port to reach maturity, too, since I also have a m1 air I'd like to run haiku natively on one day
<Halian|Haiku> :O hell yeah
<Halian|Haiku> Asahi Haiku :3
<da_snowbird> yeah! exactly. asahi has made such great strides and openbsd seems to be making progress on some work on supporting apple silicon as well so there might be a way to re-purpose some of their drivers
<Halian|Haiku> You love to see it
<Halian|Haiku> OpenBSD is another one I've struggled to get working on real hardware, alas (also NetBSD)
<da_snowbird> I have better luck with openbsd than netbsd, but if I was using an obscure arch that linux didn't support I feel like netbsd would be the best bet. we have an ancient vax languishing away in storage at work I've always wanted to tinker with and see if I could get netbsd on it for fun
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<Halian|Haiku> VAX ;o
<Halian|Haiku> I've always wanted to get a VAX or properly tinker with VMS, but the hobbyist stuff doesn't seem to include a GUI, and VSI isn't too hot on the hobbyist program
<Halian|Haiku> AFAIK NetBSD is the only OS still supporting the VAX
<da_snowbird> yeah an old microvax that my boss' dad used to run some type of telephone-based service in the late 80s/early 90s. I don't have much VMS experience but netbsd would definitely be some of the only modern game in town for it
<Halian|Haiku> Sweet
<Halian|Haiku> I see plenty of desktop VAXen on eBay but not so much the displays or keyboards :\
<da_snowbird> those'll likely be the kicker, since they're more 'wear items' than the vax itself. for 99% of what I'd do with it a serial console would get it done.
<Halian|Haiku> Yep, and the VAX isn't compatible with later industry standards like VGA or PS/2
<da_snowbird> there's a lot of new hobbyist hardware being built for retro systems, wouldn't be shocked if something implementing newer standards came out for VAX, just don't see it being a large run since theres such a limited amount of machines out there
<B2IA> (KP3FT) Hi all, I was wondering if 32-bit Haiku hpkg's can install and run in a 64-bit Haiku system.
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<bbjimmy> KP3FT no, a 64bit install needs 64bit compiled binaries.
<B2IA> (KP3FT) ok, thanks
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<Halian|Haiku> da_snowbird: there's a YouTuber I follow named TrackZero who did some work to that end
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<da_snowbird> good to know, I'll check them out. I've been getting more into retrocomputing-tube lately
<Halian|Haiku> :D
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<BrunoSpr> hi
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<Halian|Haiku> Does Haiku support OpenType fonts?
<humdinger> yes.
<humdinger> ttf, otf and ps fonts
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<Halian|Haiku> Awesome :D
<Halian|Haiku> The Haiku user guide should mention that; it only says that PostScript and TrueType fonts are supported
<humdinger> I'll make a note. Since we're so close to the beta4 release, I don't want to invalidate translations just yet.
<Halian|Haiku> Alright
<Halian|Haiku> They go in the `otfonts` subdirectory
<humdinger> yes. though I'm not even sure they need to be in a subfolder or if not just anything under data/fonts/ is scanned. But it keeps things tidy :)
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<Halian|Haiku> FreeFull: oh hai
<FreeFull> Hello
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<bbjimmy> Web+ does not download files... https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18112
<augiedoggie> is that different from 18103?
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<bbjimmy> probably, I searched for downloads in component WebPositive and saw no reletive tickets.
<bbjimmy> so it is probably a duplicate.
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<andreasdr[m]> Arrrr. Lots of commits today. You are mighty pirates. Aye.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56623] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=07ca9bce1433+%5Efb69e0619555
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 07ca9bce1433 - termios: fix raw mode initialization
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f0e187c3fd26 - kernel: follow-up to hrev56619: use new(std::nothrow)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56624] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f0e187c3fd26+%5E07ca9bce1433
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<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/0fa697a72036...5b45fefbb1ef
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 5b45fef - concourse: Drop manual trigger. It didn't work and blocked builds
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