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<waddlesplash> some of the base IP routing stuff probably deserves an audit, yes
<waddlesplash> I know a bunch about the base network drivers as I'm the maintainer of the freebsd and openbsd driver ports
<waddlesplash> but the layers above that I don't really know much. the code looks pretty clean and sane but whether it behaves properly is another matter of course
<qwilk> using Hyper-V legacy network adapter DECchip 21140 [FasterNet]
<qwilk> right
<qwilk> Any suggestions wrt how to trace this further? Would file a ticket if I could be more specific, but it's pretty vague still...
<qwilk> ...also suggestions wrt logs, or any additional network logging capabilities would be helpful perhaps
<waddlesplash> that probably depends on a hyperv socket bus, no?
<waddlesplash> like virtio has its own bus system with devices attached below it
<waddlesplash> I don't have a way to port bus drivers from freebsd at the moment, sorry
<waddlesplash> so only USB or PCI devices are currently supported
<qwilk> no worries, just googling around a bit for clues :)
<waddlesplash> multicast was theoretically fixed and enabled sometime last year
<qwilk> speaking of which, if I would buy a network adapter specifically for Haiku (bare metal or virtual passthrough), which one should I buy?
<waddlesplash> not sure what version you are using
<waddlesplash> basically anything from Intel
<qwilk> let me check
<qwilk> 56595 nightly
<waddlesplash> all the Intel chips of any generation work fine, ethernet that is. we have all freebsd latest drivers for that
<qwilk> ok
<waddlesplash> if you want WiFi then also Intel is still the best bet, any card supported by FreeBSD or OpenBSD
<waddlesplash> I don't know any pc motherboard Ethernet that we don't support though
<waddlesplash> it's only server grade cards that you might have to ask about, as we didn't import all the ones from freebsd necessarily
<waddlesplash> though we can if there was some legitimate reason to do so
<qwilk> got a not-plugged-in Realtek PCIe GbE wired and a Netgear A6150 WiFi USB 2.0 atm
<waddlesplash> Netgear, hmm, can't remember what their USB wifi chips were
<waddlesplash> it might be Ralink, which we have a driver for but doesn't work properly...
<waddlesplash> the realtek gbe should work finr
<waddlesplash> fine
<qwilk> me neither, iirc the older N300 was supported last time i looked
<waddlesplash> ah, then it's likely also realtek
<waddlesplash> the realtek wifi chips are mostly supported
<waddlesplash> unfortunately the freebsd driver doesn't support 802.11ac mode for them though
<waddlesplash> you're stuck with 80211n max
<qwilk> ok
<waddlesplash> FreeBSD has really fallen off the bandwagon when it comes to WiFi, hence why we're going with some OpenBSD drivers now
<qwilk> ah didn't know that, interesting
<qwilk> compatible with your existing FreeBSD underpinnings?
<qwilk> (I have zero experience with OpenBSD)
<qwilk> btw, "multicast was theoretically fixed and enabled sometime last year" ...any thoughts on how to trace further? (I'm re-new to Haiku since a while back but quite rusty)
<qwilk> short version I am testing a Node.js based application/server that's been verified on Raspbian/Linux/Windows also on Haiku with the latest node.js 16.11.1 from HaikuDepot
<qwilk> some of the backend modules use mDNS extensively
<qwilk> node.js doesn't complain at all though, so hence trying to dig into the networking nitty gritty
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<xoblite> there, my other persona, as used on GitHub... ;)
<xoblite> @waddlesplash are you still there or should I call it a day? :) (it's 1.40 AM here)
<xoblite> ...will try to check in tomorrow instead. Good night all :)
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<OscarL> Tried to build VBox Guest Additions (7.0.2)... managed to "massage" the >100KB patchset from older version to apply on the newer one. Build failed with some bizarre error message that I spent too much time trying to understand.
<OscarL> Seems it needs a newer "kbuild" / "kmk" version than the provided on HaikuPorts... Ok... I went there... until GCC and Haiku crashed a couple of times while trying to update that recipe. :-(
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<OscarL> Hit some errror when building after a clean boot.... hit another weird error... lots of googling later... found some fix... from a Haiku developer! :-D
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<OscarL> And now... the build for "kbuild" seemed to go just fine... until it, apparently, tries to rebuild itself, (some for of bootstrap, I guess), and now it is complaining about some missing header :-(
<OscarL> These things make appreciate Begasus a lot more :-D
<OscarL> Today... I concede defeat, and just logout. Take care, everyone!
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<OscarL> Just in case some one wants my patchset for VirtualBox-7.0.2... This is my last commit: https://github.com/OscarL/haikuports/commit/8401a09008edef95d90ff5038e1ea7ab987dc9c3
<OscarL> And this the branch I'm using: https://github.com/OscarL/haikuports/tree/vbox-ga-7.0
<OscarL> It took me quite a while to get those patchsets to apply cleanly again, so... I better share at least that. Even if I didn't managed to actually build :-(
<OscarL> NOW I'm out. Best wishes to everyone.
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<andreasdr[m]> Good mornign
<netpositive> morning
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning netpositive
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<netpositive> morning
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<Begasus> morning netpositive
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]
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* Begasus bumps head!
<Begasus> stupid typo!
<andreasdr[m]> Damn.
<Begasus> been bugging me since yesterday, just couldn't see it
<Begasus> ;)
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<andreasdr[m]> Working on our engine a lot lately, currently drag and drop from file browser into filepanels :)
<andreasdr[m]> Work. Work. Work.
<Begasus> ;)
<andreasdr[m]> Does GLFW have already drag and drop? What I mean is internal drag and dropping, but in future I need also drag and drop from external apps to our engine editor.
<andreasdr[m]> I know it has.
<Begasus> No idea
<andreasdr[m]> But last time I checked GLFW was lacking support for drag and drop and also copy and paste and setting icon was also not working. Work Work Work.
<andreasdr[m]> On Haiku
<andreasdr[m]> :)
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<Begasus> In Haiku build Wget2 with (nice to see it mentioned at gitlab) :)
<andreasdr[m]> ?
<andreasdr[m]> wget2
<andreasdr[m]> I only know wget
<andreasdr[m]> What kind of mention?
<andreasdr[m]> Nice
<Begasus> on how to build wget2 on Haiku
<Begasus> but was way past that already ;)
<andreasdr[m]> Oh it mentions Haiku!
<andreasdr[m]> Nice.
<andreasdr[m]> Just saw that.
<Begasus> right, me too (needed to update the homepage in the recipe for it)
<andreasdr[m]> Nice.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/96873b7e1988...50a3d64d2fe0
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 50a3d64 - webkit-gtk: use clang for build, cleanup
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<Begasus> was waiting for that one :)
<Begasus> keeping an eye on buildmaster now :D
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<Begasus> hi nexus6
<nexus6> Hi!
<Begasus> webkit-gtk building at buildmaster, hopefully things will work out this time :)
<nexus6> great!
<nexus6> btw you are right, gtk3-demo shows the haiku theme only if started from terminal
<Begasus> there's no reason to patch that demo, but thought about it when you showed the picture in the forum, 3dEyes gave me the sollution there :)
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<nexus6> agreed
<Begasus> finetuning wget2 here
<nexus6> btw the theme is quite ugly tbh
<Begasus> Haven't gotten that far (32bit here)
<nexus6> I was looking into it to see if tweaking it a bit will make it more pleasant
<Begasus> And did it?
<nexus6> just studying it
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<Begasus> k, gonna let this run for a while, enabled some compressions with wget2
<Begasus> bbl
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/50a3d64d2fe0...a885bffbca8d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy a885bff - HaikuWebKit: attempt to fix hybrid build
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<extrowerk> i have sucessfully built https://musikcube.com/ on Haiku, but sadly no audio output supported.
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<extrowerk> Maybe it would make sense to create a thin sndio compat layer for stuff like this.
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<netpositive> or just doing something similar natively ;)
<Begasus> augiedoggie, thanks on the pointer! :)
<Begasus> missed that
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56604] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e8deaebd62f7+%5E739d4da07be8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e8deaebd62f7 - kernel/x86: dump the CPPC feature
<mmu_man> extrowerk: you'll probably get something close to what it needs by digging the MPD sources for the Haiku output that they dropped this year
<Begasus> extrowerk, with portaudio?
<mmu_man> the problem would be maintaining it, else it'll end up as with MPD
<mmu_man> the API resembles MPD's furiously. I guess there's not 50 ways to do it
<matt3> daemon = fantasy
<mmu_man> why is it they reinvented the wheel when they could just have made an MPD frontend btw?
<extrowerk> mmu_man: thanks for the link, but nowadays i am always out of time, i work from 6 to 17 (most fo that are meetings) and have no power to sit before the computer more than whats necessary.
<extrowerk> so i probably won't do that, even if i would like to.
<mmu_man> well I have more time but I spend it mostly helping up at the fablab
<matt3> music player watcher ... like watchdog
<extrowerk> Begasus: portaudioo port was updated recently now it supports playback and recording. Sadly Musikcube doesn't support that either. Nor SDL. But sndio, aiso, coreaudio and stuff like that.
<Begasus> bugger :/
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<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] davidkaroly pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56605] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=756f03a03dee+%5Ee8deaebd62f7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 756f03a03dee - ldscripts: remove mipsel
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<kallisti5[m]> so.
<kallisti5[m]> McPixel 3 runs on Haiku
<kallisti5[m]> that's neat
<kallisti5[m]> waddlesplash: we honestly should make a blog post about it
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<tqh> lol
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<kallisti5[m]> eh. it's kinda broken
<kallisti5[m]> see https://itch.io/t/2500457/haiku-port#post-6945112 for us debugging commercial paid software lol
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