robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<JensGlathe[m]>
he mentioned the msm hotplug desaster, yes
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<jhovold>
clover[m]: internal display not showing up after suspend with external display was fixed in 6.8
<jhovold>
clover[m], steev: there's no need to add iommu.passthrough=0 iommu.strict=0 after the underlying display bug that killed usb thoughput was fixed
<jhovold>
abby: I dropped the workaround that effectively set 'arm64.nopauth' workaround to minimise the delta to mainline
<jhovold>
so it's needed until lenovo manages to integrate the fix for underlying fw bug (qcom has supposedly fixed it)
<abby>
i see
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<steev>
jhovold: it seems to be back with 6.9.1 :D or some weird subset of it - the external display came back but the internal did not. unfortunately, i was in the middle of something and couldn't grab anything and the fastest fix was to just unplug and replug the adapter
<jhovold>
steev: ok, thanks, we know the hotplug implementation is broken but it seemed that particular symptom had been resolved
<jhovold>
how reproducable is it?
<jhovold>
I have seen the internal display PHY fail to resume a few times, but it happens very rarely and results in a garbled screen, but perhaps you hit something like that
<abby>
would garbled include offset of normal and wrapped around (e.g. some of the top of the screen is at the bottom)?
<abby>
and the same left/right
<jhovold>
no, when the PHY failed to resume the screen was completly garbled, random noise/patterns
<jhovold>
there's been reports of artefacts like similar to what you describe with some high-res modes, but that affected the far right part of the display IIRC
<abby>
what i saw was much more significant, and on the internal display
<abby>
i've only seen it a couple times
<jglathe_x13s>
if I get a truncated (right part missing) screen, xrandr says its twice the desired resolution. There seems to be a connection to fractional scaling though.
<jhovold>
abby: ok, try to take a photo next time and save dmesg, was it after resume?
<abby>
will do
<jglathe_x13s>
Since my eyes are not good enough for 4k res @ 100%, I had it at 125%. Now switched 2560x1440 @ 100%. No effects, resume appears to work.
<abby>
yes, on lid open, and went away after closing/Opening
<jhovold>
abby: ok, sounds similar in that sense, but you should see an error in the log if it's the PHY timing out on resume
<jhovold>
jglathe_x13s: interesting, sound like another bug indeed, could you file a bug on freedesktop?
<jhovold>
I assume this is with 6.9?
<jhovold>
(without experimental stuff on top, so either mainline 6.9 or my wip branch)
<jglathe_x13s>
jhovold: I had it with 6.9 and earlier. Truncated screen was the effect when using fractional scaling with pop-os, X11 and gnome 42.9. your WIP branch, but my config. Will look to get some info for a bug report
<jhovold>
sounds good, thanks
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<clover[m]>
jglathe do you have a popos iso for the x13s just curious
<jglathe_x13s>
no complete iso yet, I booted via grub from Ubuntu (its 2.12, this didn't seem to work with 2.06)
<jglathe_x13s>
I was planning on completing a bootable image, yes - not far away
<clover[m]>
Nice nice
<jglathe_x13s>
I guess I have an idea now how to accomplish this - its a hack, but hey
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<lollaritits[m]>
hm what can i do against bluetooth sound stuttering?
<lollaritits[m]>
it randomly appeared today
<jglathe_x13s>
clover[m] pop-os booted from the stick with grub 2.06, yay - deriving X13s variant
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<alx___>
[ 26.851850] pcie_3a_gdsc status stuck at 'off'
<alx___>
has someone seen such errors yet?
<alx___>
On a X13s, latest testing using jhovold defconf
<alx___>
There is a lengthy mail thread on this topic here
<jglathe_x13s>
only on Volterra
<jglathe_x13s>
do you have the WWAN modem?
<steev>
what is latest testing? just his 6.9 tree?
<steev>
i thought that patchset from mani went in a long time ago
<steev>
the patchsets he talks about submitting
<alx___>
The 13s has the wwan module by default but I think I disabled it in bios, does this matter?
<steev>
mani_s: ^
<jglathe_volterra>
hmm odd. Anybody else seen devices attached to dwc3 mp turn up as USB2 only? Like, the internal r8152 ethernet adapter in the volterra box? Having this on 6.8.9 and 6.9
<jglathe_volterra>
I attached another USB-A ethernet adapter and it also turns up as USB2
<lollaritits[m]>
how do i restart a crashed modem?
<lollaritits[m]>
i didnt like the tunnes i go through and at some point just crashed
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<jglathe_x13s>
that USB2 semms to be some quirky UEFI bios issue, not Linux (?)
<vadikas[m]>
now have a new issus in kernel logs -- [ 2.188548] panel-simple-dp-aux aux-aea0000.displayport-controller: Unknown panel BOE 0x0964, using conservative timings
<steev>
that means that your panel isn't in the kernel....
<steev>
but somewhere around here i have a patch that adds... something to get rid of it, but i have no idea if its correct
<steev>
ideally though, someone with the panel would submit the timings :D
<clover[m]>
Happy you've revived your install!
<vadikas[m]>
steev: I'll check :)
<vadikas[m]>
thanks!
<steev>
vadikas[m]: it's not a bad thing though, it looks bad, it just means that the kernel doesn't know the panel timings so it's using conservative ones
<robclark>
not sure how many of them are avail for pre-order yet, but I guess the rest should be soon
<vadikas[m]>
<steev> "if you were on 6.7, it had my..." <- so here is confirmation, it works ok :)
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<agl>
robclark: In the German store of Lenovo the Yoga Slim 7x Gen 9 (14" Snapdragon) is for 1399.- pre-orderable
<alx___>
HP Elite Ultra sounds interesting if the quality matches the normal elite books
<robclark>
would be nice if dell still has the linux option for x1 xps13
<steev>
lenovo us doesn't have it yet :( not even in f&f
<agl>
the price in the German store of Lenovo is in EURO (€).
<agl>
I will wait if Lenovo's T14s Gen 6 is out.
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<konradybcio>
i wouldn't give hp any money lol
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<albsen[m]>
<robclark> "looks like you can pre-order..." <- 2k usd for the 32gb version +D
<lollaritits[m]>
<agl> "I will wait if Lenovo's T14s Gen..." <- same
<lollaritits[m]>
cant wait
<albsen[m]>
I wonder what the upgrade options will look like for the t14s snapdragon x version. lets see if they go up to 64gb ram.
<steev>
i'll wait to see what bamse gets
<konradybcio>
unless he sticks to debug boards ;)
<steev>
*cries in can't have the qcom red laptop*
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<JensGlathe[m]>
clover: pop-os stick just did his test-boot on the x13s. Not perfect, but good enough to ship IMO. Image is compressing, link soon-ish after upload.
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<JensGlathe[m]>
oddities: It's better to expand the ext4 partition after writing the image to the stick/ssd to the desired size. fs will be grown to this size then.
<JensGlathe[m]>
other oddity: the sound stack doesn't work ootb.
<JensGlathe[m]>
rest seems fine
<JensGlathe[m]>
the display switched to 200% for no reason on setup, switching back to 100% works
<agl>
Good night i am going to bed. Until tomorrow.
<JensGlathe[m]>
Raw disk image, write with disks tool or rufus to a stick (or SSD). Boots from type-c
<HdkR>
yeeesh, $2700 to preorder the Lenovo Thinkpad.
<robclark>
thats a... chunk of change
<steev>
is it another verizon exclusive or something?
<JensGlathe[m]>
I still need a really good excuse to do sth like this
<konradybcio>
remember x13s was also like 2k at the start
<konradybcio>
but then it took like 1.5y for it to start falling off
<robclark>
there's a bunch that start around $999 .. but they seem to quickly get spendy when you spec it out
<steev>
hdkr probably specced out the 64gb 15tb version :P
<JensGlathe[m]>
like we would do
<robclark>
if 16GB is enough and/or don't need giant nvme, it isn't too bad
<steev>
you can always aftermarket nvme
<robclark>
yeah... ram, not so much
<robclark>
at least w/ surface, you are pretty much maxing everything else out before you get 32GB RAM
<HdkR>
steev: Lenovo doesn't even let you configure it yet D:
<steev>
i don't even see it here :(
<konradybcio>
robclark x1p and 16 gigs makes.. less than 1.5g/core after subtracting remoteprocs thievery
<robclark>
I'm not sure that memory per core is necessarily a useful metric.. kinda depends on your use-cases. I am glad that 8GB is no longer the baseline, but I would probably get one with at least 32GB (and feel my wallet become considerably lighter)
<konradybcio>
robclark remember this memory is shared across all number crunchers onboard.. and then the performance is almost solely limited by thermals and keeping the cores fed with data
<konradybcio>
and then it would be nice to have the os running in the background while compiling things
<robclark>
even you're "compiling things" has some memory sharing between the processes (like .text)
<robclark>
but things like browser have more shared memory and lots of threads
<robclark>
we ship chromebooks with 8 cores and 4GB of RAM :-P
<steev>
and people actually pay for them :(
<HdkR>
zram doing a lot of work over there in 4GB land
<robclark>
well, people pay for them, but they don't pay much
<robclark>
yeah, zram does a lot of heavy lifting
<steev>
definitely not 2700 :(
<HdkR>
Waiting a month for Lenovo to put the device on "sale" for its MSRP of $1700
<HdkR>
Also to configure it with a higher resolution display and 64GB of RAM
<HdkR>
Is USB4 even wired up for X1E atm?
<clover[m]>
Do you think there will be a touchscreen variant?
<clover[m]>
Don't shoot me
<HdkR>
The Yoga is always a touchscreen at least
<HdkR>
But it's also a lower binned part and no 64GB option :|
<clover[m]>
<JensGlathe[m]> "link for x13s pop!os 22.04 image..." <- No audio is concerning but thank you for providing these. When I get on fast wifi later I will download
<konradybcio>
HdkR: for now usb4 is intel land (and intel specifically), this will need more discussion upstream..
<HdkR>
konradybcio: How does that work on AMD platforms that support USB4 then?
<konradybcio>
guess who supplies the controller
<HdkR>
Oh, they're using the JHL instead of TI?
<HdkR>
Fancy
<HdkR>
My AMD desktop uses JHL8540, but I assumed the APUs wouldn't have for some reason
<HdkR>
I'll of course be plugging a GPU in to it as soon as I get hands on
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