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<travmurav[m]>
lollar (it/its): well, I've just installed brand new pmOS install with gnome and BT audio "just works" ootb with PA
<travmurav[m]>
that is, on another arm laptop
<lollaritits[m]>
the passengers in the train are also very happy i debugged my sound
<travmurav[m]>
but I think it should've been the same for you too
<lollaritits[m]>
travmurav[m]: the jbl shower speaker i have worked too
<lollaritits[m]>
but neither my overears nor my airpods liked connecting
<travmurav[m]>
oh wait only some devices didn't work?
<lollaritits[m]>
yes
<lollaritits[m]>
both have some fancy crap in them
<travmurav[m]>
oh I bet that's some codec stuff then
<lollaritits[m]>
airpods well
<lollaritits[m]>
apple
<travmurav[m]>
I thought it didn't work at all
<lollaritits[m]>
travmurav[m]: ye
<travmurav[m]>
I guess best I have is aptx thingie and it "just worked"
<lollaritits[m]>
travmurav[m]: the overears have a fallback mode
<steev>
my airpods... sometimes connect, and someitmes work
<lollaritits[m]>
but i dont know how to trigger that
<steev>
but i think i had to turn on experimental for bluez
<lollaritits[m]>
first class deutsche bahn is made for linux debugging!
<steev>
sadly, where i am, we have no awesome transport like that
<lollaritits[m]>
hm?
<lollaritits[m]>
where is that?
<steev>
i'm deep in south texas, about an hour or so from mexico
<lollaritits[m]>
oh
<lollaritits[m]>
i want to do amtrak
<steev>
we have crap transport and everyone needs to have a car, really
<lollaritits[m]>
but holy fuck are they expensive
<steev>
though, we do have these electric scooters you can rent for like 39 cents a minute
<travmurav[m]>
lollar (it/its): hm so I have an impression after looking at package deps that PW in alpine depends on all the fancy codecs but PA does not :(
<maz>
if you want to complain about extensive railways, try the UK.
<steev>
those are super fun to ride, but can't really hack while on them
<maz>
expensive*
<lollaritits[m]>
im going through half of germany right now!
<lollaritits[m]>
Frankfurt Centraal to Berlin Centraal
<lollaritits[m]>
travmurav[m]: the error messages looked exactly like this
<travmurav[m]>
though perhaps the fix would be mass switch to pw across pmOS that was being discussed recently xD
<travmurav[m]>
oh I didn't understand how it works, pa uses gstreamer to get the same codecs so it should actually have both aptx and ldac, and it reports that it has first
<travmurav[m]>
lollar (it/its): do you have gst-plugins-bad?
<steev>
i do here, and it's still a crapshoot if it'll work this time or not
<lollaritits[m]>
<travmurav[m]> "lollar (it/its): do you have gst..." <- let me check
<travmurav[m]>
lollar (it/its): `apk list -I gst*` FYI
<travmurav[m]>
if it wasn't there then I'd assume that was why PA didn't have extra codecs
<lollaritits[m]>
is installed
<lollaritits[m]>
dont know if it was installed before switching from PA to PW
<travmurav[m]>
weird then...
<lollaritits[m]>
btw how do i get the battery percentage out of pd-mapper?
<travmurav[m]>
pd mapper is urelated to battery other than the cpu that does battery magic needs it to boot
<lollaritits[m]>
okay how else do i get the battery percentage
<travmurav[m]>
you should have the data available in /sys/class/power_supply/
<travmurav[m]>
if you want to read it directly (reading uevent file should show a nice summary)
<travmurav[m]>
I guess there is usually also upower that tracks/aggregates the data, provides predicitons
<lollaritits[m]>
travmurav[m]: i there is alot of things
<abby>
the relevant power supplies are qcom-battmgr-{bat,usb}
<lollaritits[m]>
cant find the exact one
<lollaritits[m]>
most say no data
<lollaritits[m]>
okay energynow seems to have something
<travmurav[m]>
lollar (it/its): capacity should be %
<abby>
you need to use energy not charge
<travmurav[m]>
they are the same thing in different units
<abby>
charge isn't implemented so it does ENODATA
<travmurav[m]>
and the qcom battmgr exposes both but only one has data depending on how firmware feels like
<travmurav[m]>
afaiu
<lollaritits[m]>
oof
<lollaritits[m]>
okay
<lollaritits[m]>
i dont care
<lollaritits[m]>
if the device gets emtpy
<lollaritits[m]>
i will notice
<abby>
i had to patch polybar to do things properly
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<jhovold>
travmurav[m]: thanks for checking, apparently the default address comes from the board file so depends on which controller you have
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<jhovold>
I've added support for reading out the default address before downloading the fw so that we can detect controllers without a vallid address properly
<jhovold>
Support is already in 6.9.
<jhovold>
valid*
<travmurav[m]>
Nice, I think it indeed forbidden me from using it until I set the mac on 6.9, I assume it's that
<jhovold>
heh, yeah, that should be it :)
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<jhovold>
Here's an updated wip branch for the X13s:
<Jasper[m]>
I forgot to ask, are there any major changes for the x13s that a layman would notice? I know people are hard at work at improving usbc muxing, audio and camera, but I haven't seen anything in particular in the phoronix article.
<jhovold>
Jasper[m]: what phoronix article?
<Jasper[m]>
jhovold: I tend to check the feature overview articles per linux release if anything is mentioned in particular
<jhovold>
and which kernel are referring too? fingerprint reader and USB-PD (ucsi) will be enabled in the upcoming 6.10-rc1
<Jasper[m]>
jhovold: Ah, interesting. Good to know
<jhovold>
still hoping to get the touchscreen fixed in 6.10 and the fixes backported to stable
<jhovold>
and camera should make it into 6.11, so there are things in the pipeline
<Jasper[m]>
Nice! I see updates here, but some of the interesting stuff is probably discussed in private or more specific channels. I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask
<Jasper[m]>
I find mailing lists hard to navigate sadly so I miss some of it
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<martiert>
anyone know what needs to be loaded to get usb support in initrd on 6.8.9? When I moved over, my yubikey is not recognized during boot, and so I need to input my luks password instead of using my yubikey
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<craftyguy>
travmurav: I only use pw on my x13s.
<craftyguy>
steev: nice, I grew up down that way :P
<Jasper[m]>
<martiert> "anyone know what needs to be..." <- iirc you need qcom_q6v5_pas and a piece of firmware in there
<Jasper[m]>
Can't remember off the top of my head which one it is exactly though
<steev>
craftyguy: heh, ironically, i broke up with one of my first girlfriends because i wanted to live in cali, and she wanted to live in texas. now i live in texas and she lives in cali
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<jglathe_sdbox2>
martiert:qcom_q6v5_pas and all qc*8280.mbn files need to be in initramfs IME.
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<Jasper[m]>
@jhovold considering pd is going to get merged into 6.10. Has anyone ever figured out why lenovo shipped the 65W charger with the x13s?
<Jasper[m]>
Markings on the bottom indicate they only do 15V/3A max
<steev>
i thought bamse already sent his 6.10 merges
<steev>
oh, usb pd
<steev>
haha, i was thinking the pd-mapper driver :D
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<craftyguy>
Jasper[m]: maybe it was cheaper to just ship a charger they already made for somethign else than to design/build a lower watt charger?
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<abby>
they have a 45W version iirc
<abby>
i'm not complaining, i can always do with more 65W chargers
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<\[m]>
jhovold did you manage to include nf_table ?
<\[m]>
I'm wondering if other people still have a pretty hot backside? is that because I'm usually watching streaming on 50 inch screen and thus unavoidable in such setup?
<\[m]>
like more GPU cycles and CPU so you can't avoid such heat production?
<\[m]>
or might there be performance improvements that make the cpus/gpus work more efficiently?
<\[m]>
I have no clue and I might have to sell the x13s eventually since it's hot enough as it is here 😄
<steev>
\[m]: are you using my patchset? because i patch it to allow it to get hotter than normal for HdkR
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<robclark>
patch for gpu thermal throttling is still on list, fwiw.. I think steev's patch is more likely to be the thing that lets it get toasty, but I suppose it theory the gpu could as well
<\[m]>
<steev> "\: are you using my patchset..." <- ah yes until my vpn works I do
<\[m]>
ugh I always forget you're on irc
<steev>
you can revert the Make it hotter patch
<steev>
well, i'm on matrix too, i just never use that client
<\[m]>
ah it's not your kconfig ?
<\[m]>
I'm on johans latest but rc6
<\[m]>
btw from a dev point of view, isn't asahi dev insane? from what I read on their blog it feels like they have to write a lot of new stuff
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<Jasper[m]>
<craftyguy> "Jasper: maybe it was cheaper..." <- Both are listed on the specsheet hahaha
<Jasper[m]>
Could still be region related though
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<craftyguy>
haha 🤷
<steev>
if you're using johan's sources, then you are by definition not using mine :)
<craftyguy>
ya I'm definitely not complaining about having an extra 65W usb-c charger thing :P
<lollaritits[m]>
i have the small one
<steev>
and if you're on rc6, you're also definitely not on johan's latest
<lollaritits[m]>
thats nice
<\[m]>
latest relevant latest-ish
<\[m]>
I don't think there's anythong heat / performance improvement on last 2 commits
<\[m]>
I also has smoll power adatper
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<lollaritits[m]>
i usually use the mac 70W adaptor tho
<lollaritits[m]>
or the dell thunderbolt dock that pushes 180W
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<\[m]>
the adapter is also 65w I checked
<steev>
it shouldn't get *that* hot by default, iirc, it's 65c by default before it starts throttling
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