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<nicolas17> ok, what *is* the status of M3/M4 port? I keep seeing people ask so it's time to write it down properly
<nicolas17> next time someone asks about the status and wanting to help, I want to give them a link to a wiki page or something
<chaos_princess> random dev branches that can boot to somewhere between single-thread m1n1 and kernel.
<nicolas17> do you have any links / github usernames handy, or should I start searching chat logs?
<chaos_princess> the _major_ issue is that the gpu got heavily redesigned, and the ISA has to be re-reversed again
<chaos_princess> idk, i personally do not want people to run random dev branches unless they are determined enough to find them on their own
<nicolas17> isn't that why there's more than one random dev branch in the first place? because they didn't know about each other and started from scratch?
<chaos_princess> kinda?
<jannau> m3 and m3 max are partially supported in m1n1/main
<chaos_princess> https://github.com/yu-re-ka/m1n1, https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/pull/426, https://github.com/mildsunrise/m1n1/ - the ones i know of. for the last one, i'd avoid anything involving SPMI, might be a product of binary RE
<jannau> another major issue is that newer devices run newer firmware so drivers using firmware interfaces (dcp, isp, sio, agx, nvme, ...) have to be adapted
<nicolas17> jannau: that work could be done on M1/M2 right?
<nicolas17> like getting M2 to work with a newer DCP firmware version would get that particular chore mostly out of the way for M3/M4, unless the interface differs between SoCs
<chaos_princess> There are per-soc differences in agx for sure, for the rest of the ones we support - iirc no.
<jannau> to a large part yes but the firmwares are not 100% equal over different SoCs
<jannau> there are a couple minor differences in dcp and isp
<mildsunrise> on my fork please avoid HPM / tps6598x. those were developed with binary RE, they are for personal consumption and should not be upstreamed. i published docs instead https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/HW:ACE3
<nicolas17> yay hardware docs
<mildsunrise> (also avoid pmgr, as it's the other thing i did binary RE on, but i don't think i made any patches to that)
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