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<mabiola[m]> OS X is practically unusable now that I run arch btw. Can't remember the last time I booted into it.
<hell__> rousing success! :P
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<Capta1nT0ad[m]> <mabiola[m]> "OS X is practically unusable now..." <- presicely
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<bluetail-emerg> what the heck happened
<bluetail-emerg> Suddenly my RDC did trigger. Now my m1 mac is stuck and does not boot into asahilinux
<bluetail-emerg> I will hard poweroff the m1 mac mini again to give you guys a look at what I see. Today I run the update....
<bluetail-emerg> I do not see u-boot/mini at all. Posting pic in a moment
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<bluetail-emerg> Nevermind. User error
<bluetail-emerg> Sorry to stir drama
<bluetail-emerg> fstab failed. Facepalm
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<bluetail-emerg> next time I research before I make a claim
<bluetail-emerg> yea, nothing broke
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<bluetail> PEBKAC
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<ar> not sure if this has been linked elsewhere, but here's alyssa's and lina's talk from xdc2022: https://youtu.be/0XSJG5xGZfU?t=21332
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> can I install linux-apfs-rw on asahi?
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> ar: it was linked in #asahi-stream
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> Capta1nT0ad[m]: or apfs-fuse
<mps> Capta1nT0ad[m]: linux-apfs-rw is not stable and could make havoc on disk
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> mps: is it still possible to use it?
<mps> yes
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> just curious
<Capta1nT0ad[m]> thanks for the response!
<mps> I build it locally and use it but only in read-only mode
<mps> I see that someone added it in alpine linux repo, but I think it is bad idea
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<hell__> it certainly sounds like a bad idea
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<naphotex_32[m]> Hello, does anybody hear use wayland?... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/QfETHTDIoIAbyRyNzHVmRsck>)
<bluetail> naphotex_32[m] speakers are muted for now
<bluetail> Until the issue is resolved, use usb audio / bluetooth audio
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<RowanG[m]> Did someone allready try an RT kernel?
<povik> or use the headphone jack...
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<j`ey> RowanG[m]: markan has expressed interest in it, so I suspect he will when he wants to start streaming or doing music prod
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<bluetail> I am curious. I did various tests with realtime audio already. But what was most important, was the actual audio interface, the frequency and the sampling rate, as well as the permission to schedule realtime. But I did not benefit from a realtime kernel. At least, the performance was so good that I did not perceive latency. But that was on a x86
<bluetail> machine with the standard kernel. Is there a use-case outside of heavy vst usage which is used in real time, gigging?
<naphotex_32[m]> oh its a new bug? sorry I didnt check it out
<naphotex_32[m]> I could use speakers, but I was just curious
<bluetail> naphotex_32[m] the reason is that you could theoretically burn your speaker inside the mac mini given you have earrapy audio
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<naphotex_32[m]> wow
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<BradPitcher[m]> Just for output right? At least for me the bluetooth mic does not work
<sven> Bluetooth input also works for me
<BradPitcher[m]> sven: Do you have any tricks that would help me?
<_jannau_> I would start with a generic linux bluetooth audio (troubleshooting) guide. There should be nothing apple silicon specific
<BradPitcher[m]> sven: Pipewire or pulseaudio?
<sven> shouldn’t matter
<BradPitcher[m]> Yeah, I was just wondering what you are using
<sven> as jannau said, this sounds like a regular Linux audio issue
<sven> I don’t remember, I just setup whatever worked when I was writing that Bluetooth driver
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<BradPitcher[m]> Well it looks like I have a mic available in the HFP profile, but the output sound becomes really terrible. Is this again something that generic audio troubleshooting can fix?
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<lina-bh> is there any way to test drive the asahi drm+mesa drivers from the xdc demo yesterday?
<lina-bh> i see there's a gpu/omg-it-works branch in linux-asahi
<lina-bh> (for avoidance of doubt my actual name is lina im not trying to impersonate :)
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<jannau> lina-bh: you need mesa (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/asahilina/mesa/-/tree/omg-it-works) and m1n1 (https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/tree/lina/omg-it-works) branches as well. it will only work on 8GB M1 systems
<j`ey> huh why?
<j`ey> hardcoded initdata?
<lina-bh> oh huh, i have 16gb
<lina-bh> hmm booting a different m1n1 seems scary since i only have the one mac
<sven> that’s the trade off you’ll have to accept if you want to try bleeding edge code
<j`ey> if its the stage2 mn1, then it's easy to recover, because its on a FAT partition
<lina-bh> fair enough :)
<j`ey> *m1n1
<lina-bh> if you want two copies of m1n1 that means two apfs containers right
<lina-bh> weh whatever this is all contained in the non-macos bit of the disk i guess so i can just wipe it if need be
<j`ey> lina-bh: no, you can just overwrite the m1n1 on your FAT partition (creating a backup first)
<j`ey> (theres a 2nd stage m1n1)
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<lina-bh> jannau: the iommu changes in your 16gb branch, do they need to be loaded directly from iboot to work or can you chainload it from another m1n1
<jannau> lina-bh: just replacing the the second stage m1n1 on the ESP/FAT partition is enough
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<millenialhacker> learning how to use Emacs :)
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<bread_crumb[m]> Will hardware accel make kde similarly smooth to finder? If I set up my OS and everything is configured do I need permissive security for my mac os instead of full?
<j`ey> the security for the macOS install doesnt change
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<derzahl> shouldnt audio be working on the mbair with the latest kernel etc now? im only seeing dummy output available
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<j`ey> derzahl: jack works, not speakers
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<ethantwardy[m]> <j`ey> "derzahl: jack works, not..." <- Is that just on the air, or is it on the pro, too? The Feature Support page says that 3.5mm jack should work on "linux-asahi" for M1 Pro, too, but I'm also just seeing the dummy output. 6.0.0-rc6-asahi-1-1-ARCH.
<clover[m]> i think they disabled the speakers for our own good
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<derzahl> j`ey: oh ok, still i should see more than dummy output right? any ideas what i might have messed up?
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<povik> yes, you should be seeing more
<povik> you can check with 'aplay -l' if there's the macbook sound card at all
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<derzahl> povik: aplay: device_list:275: no soundcards found...