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<tpw_rules> how does arch decide what kernel modules to put in the inird? can an official asahi user (preferably of non-dev) give me a list?
<tpw_rules> looks like there is an automatic way to do it
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<nicolas17> I'm now using more memory and the graphical glitches got worse
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<nicolas17> what especially worries me is that if my data processing is messing with graphics, and that's due to overlapping memory or something like that, then maybe GUI updates are also messing with my processing and all my results would be corrupted :P
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<chadmed> nicolas17: kwin_wayland's kinda borked again due to a mesa update (i think), x11 works fine with simpledrm and dcp still
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<UnicornsOnLSD> tpw_rules: mkinitcpio handles that sort of stuff on Arch, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mkinitcpio
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<tpw_rules> UnicornsOnLSD: ah, thanks. do you know the logic it uses? i ended up just stealing the module list from the pre-canned rootfs the installer installs
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<tpw_rules> like how does it know to put in all the special apple modules
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<UnicornsOnLSD> tpw_rules: I'd assume that's compiled in with the kernel, idk specifically though
<jannau> tpw_rules: it has a manual config for the parts which do not work automatically https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-scripts/blob/main/initcpio/install/asahi
<tpw_rules> jannau: that's what i expected must exist, thank you. didn't realize it was in that repo
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<rpmasiha> Hello I have a question. Will I be able to install Ashahi Linux on a system with macintosh version 13.0?
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<rpmasiha> I am asking this question as I have quite recently upgraded to the Operating System version 13.0. I had recently uninstalled Asahi Linux earlier due to storage issues, however I wish to install it once again. If anyone has indeed installed Macintosh Ventura, please inform me. Thank you.
<rpmasiha> If anyone has the answer, do kindly inform me.
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<millenialhacker_> I notice graphics being slower with 6.1 kernel & DCP driver, is that expected?
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<mps> millenialhacker: don't know if expected but it is also true for me, I'm using xorg
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<millenialhacker> Me too
<millenialhacker> mps do you have also cpufreq driver loaded?
<jannau> yes, it's expected (at least for wayland), dcp does proper framebuffer swaps and blocks until the previous fb reached vblank. since the compositor uses double buffering it can't start drawing the next frame
<millenialhacker> jannau any workaround to make it faster for now?
<jannau> I thought xorg wasn't doing that but except for quick tests I haven't looked at it recently
<millenialhacker> I enabled "prefer lower latency" in KDE settings, improved it a little bit but still feels slow
<jannau> get a faster GPU than llvmpipe
<jannau> i.e. wait for lina's GPU driver
<millenialhacker> :D essentially waits for Lina's work
<millenialhacker> yeah, exactly
<mps> millenialhacker: yes, I have it loaded and set to conservative governor
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<mps> well, actually xorg is fine, except in some cases. when switching mpv to fullscreen it is slower and when switching between virtual screens (tags) in awesome wm
<jannau> those cases need a full redraw but I guess it makes sense to look into if llvmpipe is the main factor limiting the render rate
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<jannau> another potential issue is that dcp has no vblank interrupt, to my understanding drm should emulate that towards userspace but there could be easily something wrong
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<jannau> arch linux arm compiles the image scaling / colorspace conversion library used by mpv without SIMD
<jannau> I can't rebuild the package (seems to be a makepkg issue), current git HEAD builds fine but the test suite fails
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<jannau> it might be broken. unfortunately neither the comment in the PKGBUILD or the comment mentions why it is disabled
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<jannau> ah, zimg just hides the test results. there are 6 failed tests
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<bcrumb> nicolas17: can you post kde package versions
<bcrumb> btw what about an asahi-support channel
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<nicolas17> I'm an arch noob, how do I get all "kde package versions"?
<nicolas17> oh bcrumb left anyway
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<jjido> Which package manager does Asahi use?
<ChaosPrincess> pacman, like regular arch
<ChaosPrincess> asahi is just arch with a custom kernel and a few scripts.
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<jjido> Then: pacman -Qs kde ?
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<ktz> my machine is looking good on 6.1 kernel, it can sustain a good 150 fps on https://testufo.com/
<ktz> running sway
<ktz> wondering what your guys numbers are on different setups. I think it was choking below 50 before upgrading to 6.1
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<nicolas17> how do I test that? site seems to be capped at 60fps... or maybe it's vsync
<nicolas17> oh ktz left -.-
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<bluetail> nicolas17 its just vsync. testufo syncs to the current refresh rate
<nicolas17> how did ktz get 150 then?
<bluetail> I assume he attached a 144hz monitor and remembered the fps wrong
<bluetail> But if not, there are multiple places to read 'fps' from on that site
<bluetail> The algorithms are closed source and obfuscated
<bluetail> But its a bit weird. As far as I remember, you are stuck with 60Hz for now
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