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<droidlev> hi all
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<marcan> bcrumb: that's a build time script that adds modules, it can't "hang" on that script because it doesn't actually have anything to do with boot time
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<capta1nt0ad> PSA: Looks like cdn.asahilinux.org is down with HTTP error 502 at least for me
<tpw_rules> works for me
<tpw_rules> (in the southeast US)
<capta1nt0ad> In Australia here
<capta1nt0ad> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<chadmed> its fine in brisbane
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<marcan> sounds like a likely routing issue
<marcan> probably broken intertubes between whatever POP you use and our backend server, not much we can do about that
<marcan> that usually means more stuff is broken and someone should be fixing it :p
<marcan> if it keeps happening a day or so later though let me know
<marcan> I can escalate
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<marcan> kettenis_: the cpufreq binding is reviewed, so that should be good to go as far as your side goes
<marcan> I'll put together t600x/t8112 DT patches and send them off, just need an ack from someone here and then I think we're good for merging them in principle
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<marcan> (not sure if we need an explicit ack from rob/K for the initial one? K already reviewed v3 and only had one trivial comment anyway and the binding is reviewed so possibly not)
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<marcan> ah, this should be #-dev
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<marcan> bcrumb: I pushed an update to asahi-scripts to asahi-dev which might help you out. switch your repo to that in /etc/pacman.conf and let me know how it goes (if it works, switch it back, you don't want to stay on asahi-dev and it won't downgrade you)
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<stkhant> Hello, can I ask something, pls?
<mps> stkhant: sure (and don't ask to ask, just ask)
<stkhant> How can I be into Linux (I mean how to learn linux)? I want to know like courses / book / resources
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<mps> there are a lot resources on internet, books, articles, guides etc.... just search for them on your preferred search engine
<stkhant> mps: I don't know where to start. Even just I have tried a lot to join this IRC channel.
<mps> stkhant: this channel is for specific 'part of linux', i.e. development and run linux on apple silicon and not general about linux
<mps> (I would type 'beginner linux guide' in search engine)
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<stkhant__> mps: Ah, sorry. I have question about Asahi. It is heating up when I use Asahi on my m1 2020. I know that Asahi is still under development. But my question is can that damage my machine or not
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<mps> is it m1 air? if yes it doesn't have fans and could be hot under high load
<stkhant> it is m1 pro 2020
<mps> hmm, also I have m1 pro 2020 and it is not much hot, except when compiling big packages
<mps> stkhant: are you using official asahi distro or maybe one of alternatives
<stkhant> I use google colab for my ml models but it is not related with this. But that means I use Firefox alot.
<stkhant> I use official Asahi Desktop one.
<mps> also I use firefox but don't have heat problem, but I use different distro so I don't know what could be cause
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<stkhant> mps: which one do you use? May be should I use Linux for now? May be later when Asahi release stable release. But the truth is I don't want to use Mac anymore. I am still 19 and learning ML and I don't have any knowledge before. But I want to learn / use Linux.
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<mps> stkhant: official asahi distro is quite good. Just wait some time here till someone who use it could give you answer. (I'm using alpine linux so don't have experience with official one)
<chadmed> the heat isnt going to break the machine. it is mostly due to the fact that the desktop is being software rendered.
<chadmed> it is at most an annoyance.
<mps> chadmed: especially at summer :)
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<jn> beware though, that machine learning workloads are currently computed on the CPU only
<chadmed> mps: its currently 8pm, 29 degrees and ~88% relative humidity in my office i dont need reminding
<stkhant> jn: yes, but we can train on Google Colab.
<ChaosPrincess> colab runs on google's servers, you can run it fine on a chromebook
<jn> ah, i see
<jn> anyway, you can check your local CPU usage with htop, maybe something shows up as the culprit, maybe not
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<stkhant> Yes, now I am searching linux beginner resources because I am new in Linux and so, please anyone also suggest me which should I learn first
<sven> the machines can get hot but they won't break
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<ktz> my m1 air is running perfectly cool for some months now where I've been having lots of thermal issues in the past, now everything is butter smooth and even with software rendering everything is great
<ktz> don't know how indicative of a bench it is but it can easily sustain 140fps average on testufo.com in firefox on sway
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<mps> ktz: do you use kernel with GPU driver?
<ktz> mps: no, similar kernel as upstream alpine repo
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<mps> ktz: aha, ok. I could post APBUILD for GPU kernelto you, but we could continue on #asahi-alt
<sven> please don't encourage users to run things that are absolutely not ready for end users yet
<mps> sven: ktz likes to experiment
<mps> he is not usual user
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<eiln> how do I download a previous version of macos from the installer?
<ktz> hehe yeah I tend to be like that from times to times, thank you all for your efforts guys, god bless you
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<ChaosPrincess> eiln: if you are lucky and the version you want is still on cdn - then its here: https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-12-monterey-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/
<ChaosPrincess> if not, download an ipsw and restore via apple configurator/idevicerestore
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<bcrumb> marcan: so what i did was uncomment asahi and just leave asahi-dev in the mirrorlist, I downloaded the latest (2911 smth like that) asahi-scripts, asahi-fwextract, and tried running with both base and systemd, base changed behaviour but didn't work, systemd didn't work with firmware being unable to load as usual
<bcrumb> the base version froze at later point, the log was something like "1 USB Port (or Hub?)" found
<bcrumb> Need to check logs to find exactly
<bcrumb> yeah found it second
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<bcrumb> so, in the end those are not the exact logs because i seemingly cant get logs from former boots in my kernel.logs?
<bcrumb> but it's the exact same lines
<bcrumb> before that, there is something about dwc3 and i2c is not mentioned
<bcrumb> and it freezes on this
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<marcan> bcrumb: so your problem probably has nothing to do with the i2c issue/probe deferral thing you saw then
<marcan> and that was just an unrelated issue
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<bcrumb> i will embarks on the systemd mission
<bcrumb> *embark
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<Tramtrist> today's HN post comments gettin weird
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<sven> as usual unfortunately
<delsol> HN post?
<SSJ_GZ> Seems basically the same as all the others, really; if you've read one, you've read them all.
<SSJ_GZ> I haven't seen any "just wait until Apple notices and locks down the bootloader" or "you'll have to start from scratch once the M3 comes out!" comments in a while, though.
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<delsol> heh
<scardracs> chadmed: I can’t use asahi-gentoosupport because it requires more than 8Gb of space to unsquash the iso image
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<scardracs> Any suggestion?
<Tramtrist> conspiracy theories abound .. we all could be president lincoln or something
<Tramtrist> anyway offtopic
<delsol> SSJ_GZ: the more time goes on, the more I'm wondering how long until Apple decides they want a chunk of the Arm Server business...
<ChaosPrincess> scardracs: do you have the firmware installed?
<scardracs> Which firmware do you mean?
<ChaosPrincess> the apple stuff that the asahi-installer put on esp
<scardracs> Yep
<ChaosPrincess> then just dont bother
<scardracs> ?
<ChaosPrincess> the things you need to make gentoo work is custom kernel, firmware, and a way to update m1n1
<ChaosPrincess> you do not need to install extra pkgs
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<scardracs> ChaosPrincess: the script made by chadmed is so useful (more now because the kernel does not enable usbs until it’s completely booted)
<ChaosPrincess> oh, i just have all relevant stuff compiled in
<scardracs> Found a solution I think
<scardracs> I’m not unsquashing it inside ram 😅
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<scardracs> It worked :D
<scardracs> It doesn’t D:
<scardracs> Failed to found squashfs module inside …
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<zzywysm> Tramtrist: if you need a larger dose of commenter lunacy, check out the r/linux thread
<zzywysm> the "Sony_CCD-V6000E" commenter is especially detached from reality
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<ChaosPrincess> should i get banned from another subreddit for trolling? :P
<ChaosPrincess> oh, lol, that guy is also a cop bootlicker, nice crowd we got there
<tpw_rules> isn't putting all the hard stuff in an RTOS on the GPU what nvidia is doing now too
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<ChaosPrincess> pmuch
<scardracs> ChaosPrincess: it booted… in emergency mode
<ChaosPrincess> which unit failed to start?
<scardracs> I don’t really understand
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<ChaosPrincess> it goes into emergency mode if some critical unit failed to start
<scardracs> ChaosPrincess: is there a better command instead of journalctl-xb?
<ChaosPrincess> systemctl | grep failed
<ChaosPrincess> or sth like that
<scardracs> initrd-switch-root.service
<scardracs> loaded failed failed
<ChaosPrincess> journalctl and look if rootfs failed to load
<ChaosPrincess> you probably did something like compiled ext4 as module
<scardracs> Boh
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<bcrumb> holy shit seems the systemd script for my current version worked without trial and error
<bcrumb> now to see if we can handle the firmware shit with the same success
<bcrumb> and we are golden
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<scardracs> I feel like an idiot
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<scardracs> I’ve changed the script to use /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/ram0p1 but forgot to change it on did
<scardracs> dd*
<scardracs> :/
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<scardracs> Didn’t help
<scardracs> I give up for now
<scardracs> Time for bed
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