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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d02c0bade7fc - libs/posix: Fix NULL pointer in uselocale
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56325] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d02c0bade7fc+%5Eb9643e557d5e
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<extrowerk_2> Skipp_OSX: please consider to add transparent background support for the ActivityMonitor replicants too. I am waiting for that since ages :)
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<extrowerk2> x512[m]: could you tell me pls how can i use transparent background for Activity Monitor replicants? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16633 and https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/15321 ?
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<Anarchos> Hello
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning!
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<Anarchos> Why the idle task is not devoted to optimize the system in background ?
<phschafft> because that would waste a lot of energy?
<Anarchos> phschafft: sure, but i think it is a waste of cycles not to use them
<phschafft> it is a waste of cycles (as they are finite) to use them for something that has a cycle gain of <1.
<phschafft> meaning if you want to optimise the system you can run any *specific* such optimisation in a tasks with a very small prio.
<phschafft> and as long as it has a gain > 1 it will improve the situation.
<phschafft> (a classic example is background flushing of disks; also I have too little knowlage of the inner workings of Haiku *specifically* to tell if all that could be done is already done*)
<phschafft> that would result in the idle tasks only halting the system if there is no such work to be done.
<phschafft> (* = I'm not against doing such things. even a big fan of that. Just wanting to clarify that the idle tasks is the wrong place for it.)
<Anarchos> makes sense.
<phschafft> :)
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<HaikuUser2> hi. how to change permantlythe MTU of an interface ? I was able to do it in terminal with ifconfig, but the change does not "stick"/stay
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<Skipp_OSX> So I pre-ordered a Pinebook Pro. What's the chances of Haiku Arm port running soon?
<Skipp_OSX> Probably not very good but that's ok.
<Charadon[m]> Hey, i'm trying to port a game I made to haiku for the funsies, but I problem i've ran into is that it won't launch as only one BApplication is allowed. I think this is because I use SDL for audio/threading, and raylib(Which is basically glfw) for graphics. Is there any way to get around this, or would I have to get into the nitty gritty and modify the code of the libraries i'm using?
<Skipp_OSX> more than one BApplication is not allowed? You could try settings resource app_flags B_MULTIPLE_LAUNCH; in your reef file
<Skipp_OSX> rdef
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<Skipp_OSX> if you don't have one already create an rdef file, put that in there and add to your makefile engine Makefile RDEFS= section
<augiedoggie> looks like glfw will check if be_app has already been initialized https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/media-libs/glfw/patches/glfw-3.3.6.patchset#L728
<augiedoggie> are you loading SDL after that?
<augiedoggie> might work if SDL comes first
<Charadon[m]> Sure, lemme try that
<Charadon[m]> Well i'll be damned, loading raylib after sdl works
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<Charadon[m]> Thanks augiedoggie
<augiedoggie> nice :)
<Charadon[m]> I'll look into rdef files too later, but i'm just glad my portable game works on all platforms with a desktop now lol
<Charadon[m]> Well, all except Illumos
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<Charadon[m]> One last question, is there an `ldd` equivalent on haiku?
<Charadon[m]> I tried looking for one online, but came up empty handed
<augiedoggie> there is lddtree in the paxutils package
<augiedoggie> pkgman install cmd:lddtree
<augiedoggie> iirc
<Charadon[m]> Wow, I had that installed already from when I looked earlier, but for some reason my bash tab complete didn't autocomplete it =P
<Charadon[m]> Thanks again!
<augiedoggie> heh
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<waddlesplash> Charadon[m]: there's an open issue about fixing SDL not checking if there's already a be_app
<waddlesplash> and some patches towards fixing that but nobody's worked on them yet
<Charadon[m]> Okay ,good to know it's an issue that's been reported, I was gonna check later if it had been reported
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<Skipp_OSX> I guess this is an SDL issue afterall
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<Charadon[m]> Yeah, makes me wonder if I should try out Allegro instead of SDL for sound and threading
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<Charadon[m]> Though, doesn't matter as long as I initialize raylib after sdl
<Charadon[m]> Which, btw, raylib works perfectly on Haiku, you just have to disable the audio module at compile time
<Charadon[m]> And use external glfw at compile time too
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<mbrumbelow[m]> Hey, stupid question.
<mbrumbelow[m]> What is the command to build apps like Resedit again?
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<Anarchos> mbrumbelow[m] xres ?
<mbrumbelow[m]> Something like... #> jam resedit
<Anarchos> ah let me find
<mbrumbelow[m]> Anarchos: I did an extensive google and search the Haiku website but nope...
<mbrumbelow[m]> DOH!
<mbrumbelow[m]> Thanks
<Anarchos> mbrumbelow[m] i love xref.landonf.org : so fast to find and follow use of variables , types...
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<Anarchos> is there somebody experiencesd with BLayout ?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56326] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e83979afa4cf+%5Ed02c0bade7fc
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 25866ebeeb75 - kernel/fs: Refactor EntryCache to not use constant array sizes.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3a19a89f1a6b - kernel/fs: Fix generation reference in EntryCache.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e83979afa4cf - kernel/fs: Larger sizes for EntryCache if there is >= 1GB RAM available.
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