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<pauldufresne> Hi
<pauldufresne> It seems R1B4 only boots in UEFI mode (burn on DVD)... and once installed, I can only boot the HD partition through CD. Trying to figure out why. Also trying to find the Gnome Web rather than the Webpositive one.
<pauldufresne> Found web in HaikuDepot.
<OscarL> hi there pauldufresne. As I only have machines with BIOS, I can't be of much help, except to point out to this documentation regarding UEFI boot in Haiku:
<OscarL> Key thing seems the "Installing the EFI Loader" step.
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<OscarL> welcome back pauldufresne.
<pauldufresne> Did reboot to make updates and finish Web install... first boot result in 0x7fdcc6e8f4100x9b70147316/boot/system/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.7500.0 + 0x5c316
<OscarL> Did you saw that link I posted regarding the UEFI boot? (just making sure)
<pauldufresne> no (was rebooting), sorry
<OscarL> np
<OscarL> I'll repeat myself:
<OscarL> hi there pauldufresne. As I only have machines with BIOS, I can't be of much help, except to point out to this documentation regarding UEFI boot in Haiku:
<OscarL> Key thing seems the "Installing the EFI Loader" step.
<pauldufresne> Well, it seems strange to me that the DVD only boots in UEFI mode.
<OscarL> When you PC tryies to load from DVD... that image contains an EFI boot loader, so, it works.
<OscarL> But, AFAIK, when you install Haiku... it does NOT automatically installs the Haiku EFI boot loader in the EFI partition of your HDD.
<OscarL> thus, you have to do it manually, as per the instructions in that page.
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<pauldufresne> Manually, but with the partition editor on the DVD? (unsure it does GPT partitions, but I guess it does)
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<LinuxUser> @pauldufresne haiku partition manager can create GUID partition table
<OscarL> Don't you have already an EFI partition on your HDD? (did you had other OSes in it or it a blank disk?)
<OscarL> A bit out of my depth here, sorry (again, only old BIOS/MBR machines here)
<pauldufresne> I made an about 2Gb EFI partition after my BE partition
<pauldufresne> but my new_fat_vol partition seems empty (I had formatted EFI partition in FAT32)
<LinuxUser> Let me install haiku on efi vm and explain you
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<OscarL> The https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/uefi_booting/ page seems to have a detailed step by step... even if you have to create an EFI partition. Maybe try to match that?
<pauldufresne> I would have prefered to do an old BIOS install as a first try and I don't understand the iso does not boot in CSM (BIOS) mode.
<OscarL> Is the HDD in GPT mode or MBR, ( I *think* that bootman can only work with MBR in BIOS mode)
<pauldufresne> Used the on DVD Haiku partition editor (unclear what it does)... but had a BIOS partition before that
<OscarL> Going back to that FAT32 "fat_vol" empty partition...
<LinuxUser> I failed
<pauldufresne> But now that I have read about manually copying BOOTX64.EFI ... I guess I would be able to do it. But I have to use Linux to delete Haiku partition. Might as well make the GPT partition UEFI there.
<OscarL> I think it needs to be labeled EFIBOOT, and you need to copy the Haiku efibootloader there manually.
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<OscarL> Well, the "Partition Layout" section of the linked document says to use GPT, and add a small EFI partition up front, so... :-).
<OscarL> Sorry for not being more helpfull.
<pauldufresne> I still find it weird that the ISO is not booting in CSM mode... I am used to iso that do both mode (with Linux)... but I will try to reboot in Live mode and read the installer UEFI while installing.
<pauldufresne> I ll give feedback here in about half an hour.
<OscarL> wonders of alternative OSes :-D
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<rennj> bios/efi/uefi issues
<rennj> refind or something else perhaps
<rennj> grub2/syslinux/isolinux/grub4dos multiboot
<rennj> fix for faulty bios/efi/uefi
<rennj> Timmy Trumpet & Savage - Freaks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofmzX1nI7SE
<rennj> old skool 2019
<rennj> cd grub
<rennj> ./autogen.sh
<rennj> make
<rennj> ./configure --with-platform=efi --target=${EFI_ARCH} --program-prefix=""
<rennj> export EFI_ARCH=x86_64
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<rennj> makegrub-mkimage -O ${EFI_ARCH}-efi -d . -o grub.efi -p "" part_gpt part_msdos ntfs ntfscomp hfsplus fat ext2 normal chain boot configfile linux multiboot
<rennj> yeah fun stuff
<rennj> ntfs fat ext2 hfsplus fs support
<rennj> cp grub.efi /boot/efi/
<pauldufresne> back... the partition table was MBR, made an empty GPT one and booted back in Live mode here
<rennj> of couse i dont use local storage for that foo...hd sdd..i boot from usb keychain..like starting my car
<rennj> well mbr/parition or gpt/esp/guid partition layout
<rennj> old vs modern
<rennj> mbr/csm failure..somewhere
<rennj> all my local storage is for encrypted data to avoid the evil-maid
<rennj> steal my laptop..you dont even get os
<rennj> thats on usb keychain loaded into ram
<rennj> 30GB unecrypted scratch space with trim support / 400GB encrypted with no trim.. i did 22TB in like 6years on 500GB ssd..
<rennj> 94% health
<rennj> On time: 57,965 hr
<rennj> over 6years on that ssd
<rennj> 6.61700913242009132420
<rennj> dc/bc ftw!
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<rennj> Drive health: 94 %
<rennj> samsun evo 2015 tech
<rennj> samsung sata ssd evo 2015
<rennj> 850
<rennj> 2019-2023 i got 5years from my 5.x.x / vmware build
<rennj> i got about the same out of beos 5.0.3/bone7a foo
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<rennj> like 1999-2004 or so
<rennj> or 2000-2005
<rennj> the upgrade treadmill is for the birds unless major CVE that im actually open to..i dont worry..
<rennj> its all about firewall rules and openports on the localhost
<rennj> 127.0.0.1 there is no place like home!
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<pauldufresne> Ok, booted from HD without any DVD!
<bjorkint0sh> good job, do frayne
<rennj> solid state ..cpu,ram,ssd no spinning parts
<rennj> passive heatsink even better
<rennj> mount -o loop and xorriso why own dvds
<rennj> dead tech
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<rennj> yeah but thats gutting computer
<bjorkint0sh> but you don't need the DVD player anyway.
<bjorkint0sh> it's a dvedctomy.
<bjorkint0sh> a well understood surgical procedure.
<rennj> i use to do dvd burning on beos 23 years ago..with growisofs
<rennj> well perhaps it was 20
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<rennj> maybe not 23
<rennj> might not beos...
<rennj> growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -Z /dev/cd0c=imagefile.iso
<rennj> hehe
<rennj> use the forc
<rennj> use the force
<rennj> #burning a dir
<rennj> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files
<rennj> #appending more data
<rennj> growisofs -M /dev/dvd -R -J /more/files
<rennj> #burning a iso
<rennj> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
<rennj> beos really didnt support it..it was hackery i recall i did...but it worked fine
<rennj> http://i.imgur.com/oGmsKt4.jpg irix,freebsd,solaris,beos
<rennj> i got drag and drop on dvd burning and such along with palmpilot foo
<rennj> xicon was beos/app for drag and drop i want to say
<rennj> well simple cdrom shit anyway.. i
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<pauldufresne> sound of https://tubitv.com movies are broken in MiniBrowser (which I believed is WebGtk)
<pauldufresne> ... sound like extra-terrestrials (low pitch voices) ... maybe I am asking too much! :-)
<rennj> browsing haha...yeah Blink (Chrome) Webkit (Safari) Gecko (Firefox) then you have your links/lynx/dillo/etc..etc...failures..cause html5/css/javascript is huge code base at this point...
<rennj> DoH or DoT which is it?
<rennj> well android xxx and below use this
<rennj> and android xx and above use this
<rennj> bah..the suckage
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<kallisti5[m]> ok, looks like it will be possible to inject ssh keys to haiku on Google Cloud Platform
<kallisti5[m]> which means we can offer a Haiku r1/beta4 image on GCP you can deploy and login to
<rennj> betrayal at krondor!!! slick Jimmy
<rennj> mainframe, batch job computing is for the birds...the edge...locahost ftw
<rennj> you got mainframe in you pockets
<kallisti5[m]> lol. Just wanted to offer one more choice :-)
<rennj> cdn-edge..keep it in the family
<rennj> when m$ buys netflix..
<rennj> when will steam be sold
<rennj> you got to have cdn network for the edge devices...
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<kallisti5[m]> rennj: errr. are you ok?
<rennj> grace hopper 1ns = 11.8inches
<rennj> speed limit of the internet
<rennj> nah just enjoying
<rennj> 2022 coming to end
<rennj> and being retired for long time .. i do what i want...
<rennj> tonight its haiku chat...
<rennj> better than 10 movie channels...repeats...
<rennj> 1month hbo.cinemax, etc.. is going to repeat same shit
<rennj> 12MB/s and 10 movies channels w00t davis, california
<rennj> besides no snow and bicycle weather
<rennj> just passed covid test also w00t!
<rennj> nothing but C
<rennj> c + t = bad
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<rennj> data silo's export your data to localhost and join IPFS or whatever...mainframe for birds, hence lastpass hack
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<rennj> cause keeping a local file rsync/rclone around is to hard
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<rennj> audio,video,txt/ebooks...get it off crapple/m$/oracle/google/amazon resources
<rennj> cat file | gpg -e -o file.gpg -r foobarmypassphrase
<rennj> '
<rennj> cat file.gpg | gpg -d -o file.decrypted
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<zdykstra> That's pretty cool, kallisti5[m]!
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<LinuxUser> @zdykstra hi
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<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> How do you guys make irc work on Haiku?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I am using Haiku on a windows machine with virtual box
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> And it becomes extremely annoying to type out error messages while running make command
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> g'morning Begasus
<Begasus> g'morning BarmenduChakraborty[m]
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> BarmenduChakraborty[m]: any suggestion Begasus ?
<Begasus> Just stepped in, what's thee issue?
<Begasus> BarmenduChakraborty[m], there is Vision for IRC
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I was trying to run make command for BeCalc on my Haiku that I run using virualbox... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/SpuGtfBmUYsMSSRoFMoKOBrH>)
<Begasus> Vision it is :)
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<Begasus> or use some paste site
<Begasus> I mostly use bpa.st for that
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Ok lemme try that
<Begasus> OscarL, if you're reading the logs, smpeg2 builds fine on both arch's (32bit)
<HaikuUser> Ok, Vision seems to be working
<Begasus> I know, it's been around for more then 20 years :)
<HaikuUser> How do I change my name :I
<Begasus> "/nick <newnick>" without the <>
<Begasus> You can set it also in Vision preferences
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<HaikuUser> "/Barmendu Barmendu"
<HaikuUser> oops
<HaikuUser> anyways, this was the error -
<Begasus> "/nick Barmendu" without the "" :)
<HaikuUser> "/nick Barmendu"
<Begasus> now loose the quotes :)
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<Begasus> yep :)
<Barmendu> Great. Thanks
<Barmendu> I pasted the error and pressed enter, and it vanished
<Begasus> a change there alsways starts with /
<Barmendu> :(
<Begasus> but if you type a line begining with / it doesn't show
<Begasus> so probably your line starts with a slash
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> so should I add quotes at the beginning and end?
<Begasus> or just a space in front
<Barmendu> /boot/system/develop/etc/makefile-engine:300: recipe for target 'objects.x86_64-cc8-release/About.o' failed
<Barmendu> That worked
<Barmendu> :)
<Begasus> yesn but the error doesn't tell me much
<Begasus> probably the error is somewhere before that
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> It does have a huge message
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> should I send all that?
<Begasus> search for error
<Begasus> Alt-f
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<LinuxUser> Hi begasus
<Begasus> Hi LinuxUser
<Barmendu> make: *** [objects.x86_64-cc8-release/About.o] Error 1
<netpositive> morning
<Begasus> morning netpositive
<Begasus> press Alt-f again Barmendu
<Barmendu> Space.h:16:16: error: conflicting return type specified for 'virtual long int Space::Archive(BMessage*, bool) const'
<Begasus> that's probably the error you're after
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Okay now that i looked into it
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I have loads of errors
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> :(
<Begasus> Not sure if this has been checked on a new compiler, so maybe it only builds with gcc2?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> okay
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I did use the setarch command when I was trying to build calendar
<Begasus> let me do a check heere
<Begasus> only works on 32bit
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> oh okay
<Begasus> there is no gcc2 on 64bit
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> let me switch
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<Barmendu32> Ok
<Barmendu32> g++ -c FFont.cpp -I./ -I- -O3 -o "objects.x86-cc2-release/FFont.o"
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp: In method `status_t FFont::Flatten(void *, long int) const':
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp:162: implicit declaration of function `int htonl(...)'
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp:173: implicit declaration of function `int htons(...)'
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp: In method `status_t FFont::Unflatten(long unsigned int, const void *, long int)':
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp:212: implicit declaration of function `int ntohl(...)'
<Barmendu32> /boot/home/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source/FFont.cpp:223: implicit declaration of function `int ntohs(...)'
<Barmendu32> /boot/system/develop/etc/makefile-engine:300: recipe for target 'objects.x86-cc2-release/FFont.o' failed
<Barmendu32> make: *** [objects.x86-cc2-release/FFont.o] Error 1
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> was I supposed to do that?
<Begasus> did you switch compiler?
<Begasus> builds ok here with gcc2
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> how do I switch compiler again?
<Begasus> setarch
<Begasus> what does "gcc -v" say
<Barmendu32> gcc version 2.95.3-haiku-2017_07_20
<Begasus> ok that should be good for BeCalk
<Begasus> did you run make in the source directory?
<Barmendu32> yeah
<Begasus> strange, works for me, only needed to install liblayout and switch the lstdc++ to lstdc++.r4 in the Makefile
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Begasus: Would I need to do that too?
<Begasus_32> ZSQBY
<Begasus> that's my build run
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Wait I'll send mine
<Begasus> it should error out at first not finding -llayout
<Begasus> but the build sould be OK, it's only in the and at linking time
<Begasus> did you clone the repo?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> yeah
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> but it was a while ago
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> should I redo it once
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> maybe something fixes
<Begasus> last change was 2 weeks ago
<Begasus> so maybe do a "git pull"
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> ok
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<Begasus> k, builds with gcc11 too
<Begasus> so probably your source is out of date
<Barmendu32> My terminal froze :(
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<Begasus> eeps
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<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> still doesn't work :(
<HaikuUser> \nick Barmendu32
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<Begasus> cannot find -lstdc++
<Begasus> for gcc2 this is -lstdc++.r4
<Begasus> you can change that in the Makefile
<Barmendu32> How can I do that?
<x512[m]> Better is to use modern compiler.
<x512[m]> setarch x86 make
<Begasus> yes x512[m] agreed
<Begasus> but for starters it's good to know there's option
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<Begasus> some of the sources at haikuarchives still contain sources not compatible with newer compilers
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<Barmendu32> nope
<Barmendu32> still doesn't work
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<Begasus> cannot find -llayout
<Begasus> install liblayout :)
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> ok where do i find the commands to cater to all this :(
<Begasus> pkgman install liblayout
<Begasus> you can also search like: pkgman search liblayout
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<Begasus> did you install liblayout, still the same error at the end that it can't find it
<Barmendu32> ~/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source> pkgman install liblayout
<Barmendu32>
<Barmendu32> 100% repochecksum-1 [65 bytes]
<Barmendu32> Validating checksum for Haiku...done.
<Barmendu32> 100% repocache-2 [4.96 KiB]
<Barmendu32> Validating checksum for Haiku...done.
<Barmendu32> 100% repochecksum-1 [64 bytes]
<Barmendu32> Validating checksum for HaikuPorts...done.
<Barmendu32> 100% repocache-2 [1.84 MiB]
<Barmendu32> Validating checksum for HaikuPorts...done.
<Barmendu32> liblayout-1.4.1-8 from repository system is already installed.
<Barmendu32> Nothing to do.
<Begasus> did you switch compiler?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> yeah, setarch x86
<Begasus> ah, then, you need the one for the secondary architecture (gcc11): pkgman install liblayout_x86
<Barmendu32> ~/Desktop/calc/BeCalc/source> make
<Barmendu32> cc -o "objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalc" objects.x86-cc2-release/About.o objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalc.o objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalcApp.o objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalcWin.o objects.x86-cc2-release/BinaryRider.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Buttons.o objects.x86-cc2-release/ColorBox.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Conversion.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Equations.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Errors.o objects.x86-cc2-release/ExComplex.o
<Barmendu32> objects.x86-cc2-release/ExIntegers.o objects.x86-cc2-release/FFont.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Help.o objects.x86-cc2-release/MBitmap.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Menus.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Mortgage.o objects.x86-cc2-release/MyItem.o objects.x86-cc2-release/MyListView.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Plots.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Preference.o objects.x86-cc2-release/PrefWin.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Printer.o
<Barmendu32> objects.x86-cc2-release/PWindow.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Reals.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Scanner.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Settings.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Statistics.o objects.x86-cc2-release/TextRider.o objects.x86-cc2-release/Variables.o -Xlinker -soname=_APP_ -L./ -lbe -llayout -ltranslation -ltracker -lstdc++
<Barmendu32> /packages/gcc-2.95.3_2017_07_20-2/.self/develop/tools/i586-pc-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
<Barmendu32> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
<Barmendu32> /boot/system/develop/etc/makefile-engine:249: recipe for target 'objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalc' failed
<Barmendu32> make: *** [objects.x86-cc2-release/BeCalc] Error 1
<Begasus> see, if you only run 64bit you'll never came accross this
<Begasus> err ... now you switched back to gcc2
<Begasus> for gcc2 you need to use -lstdc++.r4
<Barmendu32> how do i install that?
<Begasus> you don't, edit the Makefile and make the change there
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<Barmendu32> so when I open the makefile using pe
<Barmendu32> it shows a lot of .cpp files
<Barmendu32> under SRCS
<Barmendu32> do I alt+f every file and search ?
<Begasus> line 74
<Begasus> LegacyPackageInstaller, haven't come accross that for a long time :)
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> wait
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> you're opeining it with Pe right?
<Begasus> yep
<Barmendu32> Why does it show different cpp files when I open it with pe
<Begasus> ah no, that one is opened with Koder, but the line number should be the same
<Begasus> ah
<Begasus> click on the top right icon
<Barmendu32> ok
<Barmendu32> LIBS= be layout translation tracker stdc++
<Barmendu32> line 74
<Begasus> yep, change the last one in there to stdc++.r4
<Begasus> mind you, this is for gcc2, for gcc11 stdc++ is fine
<Barmendu32> All hail lord and saviour Begasus
<Barmendu32> It finally works
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> still some work needed, freezes quit often here
<Barmendu32> does show this on startup though - couldn't find graphics/CI-logo.jpg
<Begasus> yep, issue is filed there
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Okay
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> I guess I will play around with it for a little while and try to decipher the code
<Begasus> for that it's better to switch to gcc11
<Begasus> so to bring it into a new era :)
<Barmendu32> How do I switch compilers again?
<Begasus> setarch x86
<Begasus> on 64bit not needed as there is only gcc11
<Barmendu32> wasn't that for gcc2?
<Begasus> no, once change you'll see a [x86] prompt at the start in Terminal
<Begasus> so, setarch x86 -> gcc11, exit -> back to gcc2
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<Barmendu32> alright
<Barmendu32> Thanks a ton Begasus
<Begasus> remind to revert the change in the Makefile for gcc11
<Begasus> np :)
<Begasus> you're now a bit familiar with both setups for the compiler, that's a good start for 32bit
<Barmendu32> Cost you a lot of pain though, lol
<Begasus> I've had worse in GCI time :P
<Barmendu32> some documentation should be added for this
<Barmendu32> like, installation instructions
<Barmendu32> I added some minor ones for calendar about 1 month ago
<Begasus> First make it stable to use :)
<Begasus> that's an old package which contains documents/graphics ... (also commented on the issue there)
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> okay
<Barmendu32> how do I access it?
<Barmendu32> It opens in webpositive
<Begasus> just grab it with wget
<Begasus> in Terminal :)
<Barmendu32> Certainly learning a lot today
<Barmendu32> I ran that command, but where does it go?
<Begasus> ok, removed the install from that package (after grabbing the subfolders), BeCalc is stable now
<Begasus> depends where you ran it from
<Begasus> if your prompt is still in becalc directory it will be there
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Begasus: When you say stable, does it mean the freezing issues?
<damex_> Does anyone else have problems with setting trackpad speed and acceleration in beta/RC1? It doesn't have any effect.
<Begasus> mostly I open a new tab (Alt-t) in Terminal and switch to the Desktop
<Begasus> right BarmenduChakraborty[m]
<Begasus> it contains a prefserver that locked I guess
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> oh okay
<Begasus> I'm too old to do some strange calculations in there :P
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> That doesn't look too different from the one i ran
<Begasus> contains the graphics, documentation can be accessed from the menu ...
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> okay
<Begasus> doesn't change functionality
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<Begasus> biab ... dogs
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<Begasus> re
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 050fb27 - libmodplug, disable static library (#7688)
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<LinuxUser> @matt3 hi!!!!!
<matt3> hi LinuxUser ;)
<LinuxUser> How are you
<matt3> fine ... you ? ;)
<LinuxUser> Great
<LinuxUser> Now i'm making html page with jquery ui
<matt3> i remember there was geocities ... gold time ...
<matt3> free html space ...
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1dfd165 - libtimidity, remove static library (#7689)
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<Begasus> kallisti5[m], I guess it's ok to disable the static library for luv, from searching github it's not used anywhere?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56677] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c565d98b6b91+%5E1f846c9cc5f5
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c565d98b6b91 - Window: initialize fUpdatesEnabled to false
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<LinuxUser> @matt3 hi again!
<matt3> hi again !!!
<matt3> thank to you to talk with me .... LinuxUser ...
<LinuxUser> ) thank you too
<matt3> i am alone ... thank you to everybody ... ;)
<LinuxUser> Alone?
<matt3> my brother is in germany to work ... i am in italy ...
<matt3> very sad ...
<matt3> cu ...
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<win8linux[m]> kallisti5: Are you still accepting wallpaper PRs for the `wallpaper_unsplash` package?
<win8linux[m]> If the Unsplash license is problematic, then Wikimedia Commons has a category of CC0-licensed images from Unsplash before the relicensing:
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<HaikuUser> jej
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e7f1a13 - libb2, disable static library (#7692)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus eb962fb - argon2, remove static library (#7693)
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<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Could anyone check if the link mentioned in the readme file of BeCalc works or not?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> It does not work on my end
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<Begasus> probably not BarmenduChakraborty[m] it's been a few decades ago
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> Can something be done about it?
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<Begasus> don't think so
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]> :(
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<rennj> https://www.softwareheritage.org/ will fix all those dead links so they claim
<rennj> archive.org wayback machine would worth a look
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/eb962fb3e88f...553915b51860
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 553915b - libdeflate, bump version (#7694)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/553915b51860...bd654b233b65
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus bd654b2 - borgbackup, bump version after new libdeflate version (#7695)
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<Begasus> resolving build dependencies failed: build-prerequires "cmd:cython3.9_x86" of package "borgbackup_x86-1.2.3" could not be resolved ?
<Begasus> build failed on 32bit, works here fine
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c9e995d - borgbackup, no x86 binary for cython (#7696)
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<Begasus> remind me to not run a build for suitesparse again :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c9e995d00fb5...07da14457da4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 07da144 - fluidlite, disable static library (#7697)
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<Begasus> 'lo humdinger
<humdinger> hullo!
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<Begasus> 2 major builds running atm
<jmairboeck> is Lilypond one of them? ;)
<Begasus> sorry no :)
<Begasus> let me tackle that tomorrow :)
<jmairboeck> no problem Begasus, just wanted to ask
<jmairboeck> should be no issues, I think
<Begasus> Lilypond isn't as huge as suitespars or gdal I think ;)
<Begasus> np
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<Begasus> Aloha OscarL !
<OscarL> Hola Begasus!
<OscarL> (sorry it took me so long to fix that PR... my internet went down when I was about to un-draft it a few hours ago)
<Begasus> np, got a few builds running atm, check this morning was fine on smpeg2
<Begasus> checked*
<humdinger> Anyone know if that css-sniffer-commit made it to the buildbots?
<Begasus> no idea :)
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<humdinger> once it's done, we should rebuild the BeBook package.
<OscarL> we could check the logs for one of the latest package builds... and compare the hrev with the one that includes that change, humdinger.
<OscarL> Hello there, btw :-D
<humdinger> the buildbots need to be updated to include the css fix.
<humdinger> otherwise a new BeBook build will still procduce bad css files
<OscarL> r1~beta4_hrev56578_31-1
<OscarL> Doesn't seems like that css sniffer rule commit made it (+31 is way before that)
<Skipp_OSX> just a fyi, the mobile style on https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/ has been borked for a while
<humdinger> OscarL: is r1~beta4_hrev56578_31-1 the revision on the buildbots?
<Begasus> yep, already out of date :)
<OscarL> humdinger: seems like it, from reading the logs.
<OscarL> not even "proper" beta4! (+59) :-P
<humdinger> OscarL: ah. right. now I see it.
<Begasus> +65 OscarL :P
<OscarL> Begasus: not on the ISOs, master Begasus!
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<Begasus> current install ;)
<Skipp_OSX> humdinger while I got you here, I have attempted to add SetModificationMessage to BSpinner, but I'm not sure how to test the change to see if it works or not.
<humdinger> should really be updated. apps' html docs using css wont look too good...
<humdinger> Skipp_OSX: I guess you'll have to build libbe.so and put it in a lib folder along a test app?
<OscarL> Current, +65, indeed. CSS mime sniffer commit should be then +64.
<humdinger> Skipp_OSX: an updated BSpinner would be cool, thanks!
<humdinger> OscarL: all +xx countings go out the window when picked for the beta4 tree
<Skipp_OSX> I understand all that, I mean, once you set the modification message, where does the message get received? In Invoke()? In MessageReceived()?
<humdinger> MessageReceived()
<humdinger> at least that's how BTextControl and BSlider work
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<OscarL> humdinger: I'm counting on the beta4 branch, so that's valid (+65 is the current newer commit, and the css is the one right before on that branch)
<OscarL> what you can't do is count commit from master and try to apply it to beta4.
<Skipp_OSX> ok good to know. I set fColumnsControl->SetModificationMessage(new BMessage('cols')); in ScreenWindow.cpp and then I'm trying to spit out "cols" or "rows" to syslog when I receive a message->what == 'cols' or 'rows'
<humdinger> right. https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?h=r1beta4 shows it's in the beta4 branch So it's there for me when I update. but the buildbots are still not there.
<OscarL> in any case... guess you'll need to poke either kallisti5[m] or waddlesplash regarding the updates on the buildbots?
<humdinger> which is the important part when it comes to docs in packages.
<Skipp_OSX> but so far I'm not seeing the message, but I guess that answers the question so I should be seeing it in MessageReceived() maybe I need to redirect the message back to the spinner to see it.
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<humdinger> Skipp_OSX: if you give it the same message "kMsgWorkspaceColumnsChanged" it should be handled by the app like the original message.
* OscarL goes to open a PR for BeConverter. brb
<Skipp_OSX> case 'cols': syslog(LOG_INFO, "cols"); case kMsgWorkspaceColumnsChanged:
<Skipp_OSX> idk I think that should work I'm just going to have to do some more testing.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/07da14457da4...58af40ca9c50
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 58af40c - gdal, disable static library (#7698)
<Begasus> last one for today :)
<Begasus> suitesparse still building, will check in the morning for that I guess :)
<Begasus> grabbing some food, later NY drink at the dogschool, cu later peeps!
<humdinger> cu Begasus!
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<Skipp_OSX> aha I see you have to set the mod message AFTER attaching the control to the window
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56678] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ad59349e169f+%5Ec565d98b6b91
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ad59349e169f - runtime_loader: dequeue disposable image before calling image finalizers
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<nonesuchluck> are there known problems booting on AMD Ryzen? Enabled every debug option, still 0 lights on boot screen
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<waddlesplash> nonesuchluck: you need to use EFI, I'm pretty sure
<waddlesplash> I run Haiku on a Ryzen 3700X, works fine, but I boot via EFI
<waddlesplash> kallisti5[m] also runs on Ryzen machines
<nonesuchluck> waddlesplash: the usb stick appears in my boot menu as a UEFI boot device, not legacy. I guess i could disable CSM?
<kallisti5[m]> Yeah, EFI is a lot more reliable
<waddlesplash> nonesuchluck: some BIOSes always use CSM first for removable boot media
<waddlesplash> at least that's my experience
<mbrumbelow[m]> What is the jam command to install an app or server after it’s been built? Like jam install NetServer… or something like that.
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<nonesuchluck> oddly, bootloader doesn't print any logs, even when i enable on-screen printing
<nonesuchluck> any other way to get booting info? Don't think i have a real serial port
<waddlesplash> chances are the bootloader died at some very early stage
<waddlesplash> can you get to the bootloader menu? spam spacebar (EFI) or hold shift (BIOS)
<waddlesplash> before the icons appear that is
<nonesuchluck> Yep, i used space to try various combinations of safe options, and tried to enable log printing
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<BrunoSpr> hello all
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/58af40ca9c50...1437ca03ea0a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 1437ca0 - guideml: update to version 3.16.1, enable for all architectures.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 88b9c81 - jamfile_engine: update to 1.0.3.
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<xoblite> Hello all... does anyone have any advice on how to spawn your own-built Tracker+Deskbar rather than the system ones on startup?
<xoblite> (the UserBootscript and Launch folder seems to be owned by Tracker, so that's not the answer)
<xoblite> (i.e. the moment you launch-roster stop the system Tracker, your launch sequence goes poof as well :))
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<xoblite> oops killed Vision by accidentally killing Tracker... :)
<xoblite> ...so if anyone was replying something, please repeat...
<Skipp_OSX> run launch_roster to get the sig then launch_roster stop sig
<xoblite> yes, but the moment you kill the system Tracker the rest of the boot script goes with it...
<Skipp_OSX> Tracker is something like app/x-vnd.Be-trck and then Deskbar is app/x-vnd.Be-tsbr but I can never remember
<xoblite> yes
<Skipp_OSX> ok then spawn your own Tracker or Deskbar after
<xoblite> who would do that then? it ain't the dead Tracker... that's the issue it seems
<Skipp_OSX> somebody trying to run a modified Tracker or Deskbar
<xoblite> I don't fancy Ctrl+Alt+Del, open Terminal, run aliases on every startup :)
<Skipp_OSX> I suppose that's true but I think you're trying to do something different
<xoblite> explain?
<Skipp_OSX> why would you run aliases every startup?
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<xoblite> aliases a la short commands to run e.g. /boot/home/bin/Tracker &
<Skipp_OSX> oh right well I think you'd want to modify launch_roster instead if you really wanted to run your own Tracker every boot
<xoblite> point is the system Tracker owns startup, so you seemingly can't kill it
<HaikuUser> test
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<Skipp_OSX> right it does that's on purpose to prevent you from doing what you're trying to do
<xoblite> ah right, good point, was going to ask about that; how do you add services to launch-roster?
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<xoblite> hehe yeah :)
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<xoblite> launch-roster --help only describes list/stop/start/restart etc
<xoblite> ...and a lot of things are running off the read-only volume
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<xoblite> thing is, it is good to be able to live with your in-dev stuff also in day-to-day to see how it pans out
<xoblite> especially UX related things that sometimes need some time to evaluate
<Skipp_OSX> yep I understand, but if there is a way to do it, I haven't figured it out either.
<xoblite> ok, thanks anyway :)
<xoblite> hmm maybe Launch could spawn a process to sleep 1 sec, kill system Tracker via launch-roster, spawn your own kind of thing... (?)
<PulkoMandy> Usually for Tracker and Deskbar I just rebuild the whole haiku.hpkg and install that when I want to do some day-to-day testing
<xoblite> (i.e. system Tracker spawning the weapon to its own destruction, pretty much ;))
<xoblite> PulkoMandy: Yeah that's one way too of course, seems a bit overkill to rebuild all just for the sake of maybe only Tracker or Deskbar, but if that
<xoblite> if that's the only way to work around it, well...
<talvdav> hello guys, is there a way to tell haiku that i got a widescreen monitor?
<xoblite> PulkoMandy: Updated the mid click patchset today btw, see my reply in the forums. Actually the simple no-submenus approach is quite nice.
<xoblite> == just the key stuff you really want quickest access to.
<PulkoMandy> talvdav: you can configure video modes in menu->preferences->screen, if no widescreen mode is available there you are probably using the vesa driver, and in that case, probably not
<PulkoMandy> In vesa we are fully dependant on the videomodes provided by the hardware manufacturer
<xoblite> talvdav: Are you running bare metal or in a VM btw?
<talvdav> PulkoMandy: i had a second non widescreen monitor connectet when booting up, the driver in screens said FrameBuffer
<talvdav> xoblite: on bare metal
<xoblite> I'm running on both, and in a Hyper-V VM you only have access to some hard-coded, seemingly only 4:3 ones
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<PulkoMandy> Ok, "framebuffer" is a driver based on EFI, in that case maybe you can select a resolution in the boot menu or some configuration file and then reboot. I'm not familiar enough with it to tell exactly where
<xoblite> PulkoMandy: I have a 2-liner Deskbar patch I actually think you might like too, if you're interested :)
<talvdav> PulkoMandy: how do i get to the boot menu?
<PulkoMandy> Press the spacebar while booting, just before the bootsplash is shown
<talvdav> ok thx ill try
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<xoblite> hmm speaking of the boot menu... curious question: Would a mixed mode of nice Haiku icons and say 1-10 lines of the latest console output be possible?
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<HaikuUser> PulkoMandy: so i disconnectet the second monitor and after entering the bootmenu like you said it allready said the right resolution :D so i am happy now
<xoblite> The reason I'm asking is that in some cases, the process stalls on one of the icons for longer than usual, and it would be nice to have a little better view of what's going on without fully ditching the nice Haiku boot screen; it's an not-to-be-underestimated part of Haiku's DNA
<PulkoMandy> It would be possible but look ugly, we're not Linux :)
<xoblite> HaikuUser: Nice to hear that!
<PulkoMandy> If you need on-screen debug you can enable it
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<xoblite> nah I get it, like I said it was just a mixed mode for those not fancying the full console onslaught...
<talvdav> xoblite and PulkoMandy thank you for your help :D
<xoblite> other systems have spinners to indicate activity... maybe Haiku could "pulse" the in-progress icon or something though?
<xoblite> talvdav: All on PulkoMandy this one
<PulkoMandy> We are a bit limited by the available colorpalette
<PulkoMandy> Also, the proher solution is to make the system boot faster :D
<xoblite> yeah I meant more like "pulsing" to colour back to greyscale to colour...
<xoblite> PulkoMandy: Of course :D
<xoblite> haven't investigated the root cause as it only happens on my bare metal system that anyway lacks a supported WiFi adapter...
<mmu_man> Guess I need to port it.
<xoblite> mmu_man: that's the spirit! ;)
<mmu_man> Qt5… shouldn't be much work :)
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<xoblite> hmm is there a way to actively fetch the workspace for a given non-minimized window? can't seem to find one in the Haiku Book... (?)
<xoblite> (I know there are callback hooks upon change, but I was after something fetch-wise)
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<xoblite> nm, I found something else that might work
<talvdav> do i put my .ssh folder inside of the ~/config/settigs folder?
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