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<Skipp_OSX> I'm really close here, I got Copy to work in Open/Save dialog in a context menu on a read-only volume, but it doesn't work in the File menu. The worst part is, it doesn't work on R1B4 either
<Skipp_OSX> try it yourself to see
<Skipp_OSX> well you don't get context menu because I added that but you do get File => Copy and that does NOT work in a Save dialog on read-only directory at least
<Skipp_OSX> You can select it, it appears to work, but it doesn't actually copy the file, you can't paste it
<Skipp_OSX> it works in a regular Tracker window just not Save dialog
<Skipp_OSX> Open works... Save does not work hmmmmm
<Skipp_OSX> aha I see the difference
<Skipp_OSX> it's because when you click keyboard focus goes to the save box below, so the copy doesn't register
<Skipp_OSX> and in an Open dialog there is no file name box below
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<Skipp_OSX> so tricky
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/844ff28d6ccb...625830c890c6
<botifico-c849d97b> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 625830c - blog: Add missing language identifier to code block.
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<OscarL> Seems Pe doesn't seems to expose, to language addons, a way to find out the path to the current file being edited/highlighted :-/
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<OscarL> lol @ Pe's PText::RestyleDirtyLines()... I read that as "Resty le Dirty" and though Maarten was just having fun with the methods names :-)
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<OscarL> halo Begasus!
<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Begasus> 'lo OscarL :)
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<Begasus> OscarL, lout ready to go?
<OscarL> yup.
<Begasus> k
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/422860e8f283...4abededa0a5f
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 4abeded - lout: fixups, include PDF docs. (#8522)
<Begasus> done :) thanks
<OscarL> and I have two PRs in line to try and fix the Pe side of things.
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<OscarL> Thank you, Begasus.
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<Begasus> I think Pe's hosted at HaikuArchives right?
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<OscarL_32> Darn, PC just froze. Lets run on real hardware for a while.
<OscarL_32> Begasus, yup, Pe's on HaikuArchives.
<Begasus> the external drive on the other laptop is acting up ...
<OscarL_32> Man, that was fast. Both builds OK.
<Begasus> time for some checkfs ...
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<OscarL_32> weee! Move over KapiX!!! (tied it on commit numbers :-P)
<OscarL_32> s/it/him/
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<OscarL_32> Begasus if the drive has already some age... might be the cable/connectors? (I had one die that way, and the other was showing similar sympthoms, until I just converted it to an internal drive.
<OscarL_32> *symptoms? English hard.
<Begas_VM> it isn't that old OscarL_32 :)
<Begas_VM> spontainious KDL's (mostly in the morning)
<Begas_VM> work partition is gone then, so I need to reboot, then it works OK most of the day
<Begas_VM> time to revert changes to libtool ...
<Begasus> tied to kapix OscarL_32 :P
<OscarL_32> \o/
<OscarL_32> re: external drives... well, maybe "moving it" to a new USB enclosure might not be a bad idea (IME, the usb-case fails far earlier than the actual HDD). Just an alternative to keep in mind.
<OscarL_32> (and a cheaper alternative to buying a new drive). I'm all in for cheaper stuff :-D
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<Begasus> it's not really dismantable :)
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<OscarL_32> Begasus, neither were my two Seagate ones... it took some "convincing" with some sharp tools :-P
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL_32> better than loosing a 2 TB drive, thou :-D
<OscarL_32> *losing.
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<Begasus> don't think we need this (no static library there) anymore: prepareInstalledDevelLibs libltdl
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<OscarL_32> k. Pe PRs done for now. Can you believe I had write access to its repo at some point? :-D (when it was hosted at berlios, and when it was transfered by olta into github initially).
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<OscarL_32> before that I was just sending .zip files with my crappy code :-P
<Begasus> long time ago :)
<OscarL_32> beunited.org... osdrawer... ah.. the times :-D
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<OscarL_32> glog78: starred it earlier today already, thanks!
<glog78> ;)
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<OscarL_32> mmm, I'm at 552 .hpkg installed. I think I don't need/care about at least 200 of them. (but where "BUILD_REQUIRES'ed").
<OscarL_32> Wonder's what Begasus' numbers look like :-P
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<Begasus> tsss
<Begasus> 1224 packages on the other laptop :)
<Begas_VM> 1173 on this one :)
<Begasus> although there are plenty not needed (just can't tell wich ones anymore) :P
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<Begasus> k, that should do it for libtool ...
<jezek2> OscarL_32: btw interesting thing about HDDs is that most people get the reliability wrong, it is not that the older the HDD is the more suspectible to failure is, there is a very high probability that HDDs fail at around 2 years of service, but once they reach about 5/6 years they're good for decades (the bathtub curve applies)
<OscarL_32> when (if?) we finish with the python update task... I want to take a look again at that trying to implement "pkgman list --not-needed"... we'll see.
<OscarL_32> jezek2: indeeed :-D Still have a working Quantum Fireball 640 MB from 1996 :-D
<Begasus> to find orphaned packages OscarL_32 ?
<jezek2> (this metric assumes 24/7 service more or less)
<OscarL_32> Begasus: yup.
<Begasus> nice
<OscarL_32> I did some research on that area... packagefs code is very hard to follow (for me at least), but I think I collected enough notes to more or less have a valid starting point.
<OscarL_32> Just having problems maintaining focus, as usual :-P
<Begasus> could save me a few hunderd of packages :)
<OscarL_32> (also, seeing how pip implementes a similar command, was helpful)
<Begasus> makes me think ... need to update haikuporter on the other laptop
<Begasus> k, libtool ready for review :)
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<OscarL_32> Installed lout from the repos, applied both my PRs for Pe on a "working-copy" branch where I apply patches not yet upstreamed... file navigation ("open includes") works fine. Nice!
<Begasus> congrats!
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<OscarL_32> thanks! Even if they don't get upstreamed, as I'm basically the only Lout user on Haiku, ever,... I'm cool now :-D
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<OscarL_32> I wish what when you click on the Workspaces' replicant (to change workpspace), it would set the focus to the top-most window automatically.
<OscarL_32> Won't even look at that myself... need to avoid sidetracks, and I would probably not succeed anyway :-D
<OscarL_32> yet... I remember that one patch for minimize_all had some code I could steal... mmm
<Begas_VM> would be nice yes :)
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<OscarL_32> Either I'm too dump to find where Workspaces switches workspaces on click, or it just doesn't and is just passing the click throught an app_server side "workspace view".
<OscarL_32> It does handles changing worksspaces on mouseshweel, thou, but that's not what I care about.
<OscarL_32> Oh well... couldn't avoid at least looking at it :-D
<OscarL_32> lol at my "too dump" typo :-P
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<Begas_VM> :/ another wron libVersion
<Begas_VM> wrong*
<OscarL> ouch.
<Begas_VM> objcopy: '/packages/libdsk-1.5.8-2/.self/lib/libdsk.so.4.3.1': No such file
<Begas_VM> should be 5.5.3 ...
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<OscarL> btw, for what it's worth, I think that https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/8488 could be merged. It is equally broken as the outdated version, but at least contains newer code, and builds on x86.
<OscarL> (disabled to avoid getting peope inadvertedly seg-faulting their gvim)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4abededa0a5f...23440d5ae76c
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 23440d5 - YouCompleteMe: clean-up, fix 32 bits, update. (#8488)
<Begasus> done :)
<OscarL> thanks.
* OscarL leaves KapiX on the read mirror :-P
<OscarL> *rear
<Begasus> lol
<OscarL> even left korli behind :-P
<Begasus> whoot! :)
<Begasus> need to step up :P
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-2/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/23440d5ae76c...40a72eea7ec6
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 40a72ee - gmp, disable 32bit static library, cleanup (#8534)
<OscarL> :-D (Hey... still not too bad for being a newbie :-P)
<Begasus> yeah, nice there!
<Begasus> help much appreceated :)
<OscarL> nice to contribute something back, even if small.
<Begasus> +1
<Begasus> bugger, 32bit buildmaster down again ...
<OscarL> you broke it again? man!
<Begasus> no you did :P last one was lout ;)
<OscarL> That worked thou :-P
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> admins should give you access to a "reset button" for the buildmasters :-D
<Begasus> good thing libgmp's libversion was correct :)
<Begasus> nah :)
<OscarL> considering you're usually the first to notice when they go down.
<OscarL> kinda sus, not gonna lie :-P
<Begasus> k, when the ones for libtool and libgmp are fixed, only 16 (system) static ones in /boot/system/develop/lib" (primary arch) :)
<OscarL> nice going!
<Begasus> only tackling what I see on the disk now, think most are covered :)
<Begas_VM> bugger, freeimag contains sources for openexr 2.2.0 :/
<Begas_VM> freeimage*
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/40a72eea7ec6...d88632cfd79c
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d88632c - libdsk, disable static library, fix libVersion (#8535)
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<Begasus> cpctools need a revbump for this, but can only push that once buildmaster is back online
<OscarL> need that reset button, I tell you! :-P
<Begasus> :P
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<OscarL> Begasus: if you want to try something different, mmu_man pointed to https://www.nushell.sh/ earlier. New recipe time? just a bit of rust and libssl-dev, it seems :-P
* OscarL hides
* Begasus slaps OscarL
<Begasus> no rust please! :P
<OscarL> I knew you would like it. :-D
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d88632cfd79c...a8e105b4bab1
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a8e105b - cpctools, revbump for libdsk changes (#8536)
<Begas_VM> another one down :)
<OscarL> buids both ok. nice.
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a8e105b4bab1...188edbf28f46
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 188edbf - libgsf, disable static library (#8537)
<Begasus> closing down the web :)
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<Begasus> bbl
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<Begasus> re
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/188edbf28f46...193525bbe8a2
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 193525b - libelf, remove static library (#8538)
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<Begas_VM> woot, librsvg-2.a +123MiB
<waddlesplash> wow
<Begas_VM> rebuilding with --diable-static (already a few static ones removed in the recipe (subfolders)
<Begas_VM> ow bugger ... forgot (rust) :/
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<Begas_VM> nice, devel package down from +30MiB to +6KiB ;)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/193525bbe8a2...9111666470e1
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9111666 - librsvg, disable static library (#8539)
<Begasus> that saves some place on the hard drive :)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9111666470e1...bb69abab71e3
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly bb69aba - iperf: update to 2.1.9 (#8540)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56949] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e0f07d3ce0c3+%5Efc12af740f93
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8d2c997da265 - nvme_disk: Add missing bounds check and adjust clamping.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f64b0991911a - scsi & virtio: Clean up IORequest usage.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e0f07d3ce0c3 - IORequest: Add an assertion in SetTransferredBytes.
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<mbrumbelow> waddlesplash: Thanks for migrating Paladin over.
<waddlesplash> :)
<waddlesplash> OK to delete https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Paladin-old then?
<waddlesplash> also you now have write access to the main Paladin repo
<mbrumbelow> Saw that thanks!
<mbrumbelow> I am going to look at the old one later tonight, I ping if all clear to delete.
<waddlesplash> ok
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bb69abab71e3...35522b902b0a
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 35522b9 - vcmi: bump version
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56950] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=103c671ef02c+%5Ee0f07d3ce0c3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] be67f14dcbca - mmc_disk: Refactor read/write/io hooks.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 103c671ef02c - AbstractModuleDevice: Add generic read/write hooks via "io" hook.
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/35522b902b0a...8a3575f1fcc7
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 8a3575f - vcmi: drop haiku requirement
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<Skipp_OSX> does this mean the library list has a scroll bar now ?
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<braewoods> huh. seems Haiku doesn't actually implement RTS CTS internally? the code is just a stub in the serial driver.
<Skipp_OSX> Real Time Strategy Change The Subject ?
<Skipp_OSX> I'm guessing you mean Request To Send/Clear to Send
<braewoods> Yes.
<braewoods> i'm not sure it actually matters but i'm working on serial protocol stuff. i'll find out if RTSCTS actually matters or not but all the existing ones set it for this case.
<waddlesplash> note there's two serial drivers
<waddlesplash> you want to be looking at the "generic" one
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<PulkoMandy> USB or "legacy" serial port? The "legacy" one is not very complete. For the USB one I think rts/cts should be working already
<braewoods> PulkoMandy: USB.
<braewoods> And are you sure? This is what I found in the SerialDevice.cpp
<braewoods> // default implementation - does nothing
<braewoods> SetHardwareFlowControl((tios->c_cflag & CRTSCTS) != 0); is where I see it and when I look at the code for this function, it's a stub.
<braewoods> Given what I see, I can't see how it can be called implemented?
<PulkoMandy> That's the "default" but it is subclassed and overriden by each specific usb serial chip support
<braewoods> I see. The ACM code I'm looking at doesn't though.
<braewoods> Though no idea if ACM even supports RTS CTS in the first place.
<PulkoMandy> I don't think I've seen ACM devices with flow control. Or even an actual imhlementation of baudrate
<PulkoMandy> In theory it's possible, so if you have hardware that needs it, we can add it
<braewoods> I don't know that I do for now. I'm just assuming based off what the code for the user driver does on Linux and similar systems.
<braewoods> The actual device, which I have, is recognized as an ACM device under Linux.
<Skipp_OSX> it does look like it Paladin fixes the scroll bar yay
<braewoods> Anyway I'll try leaving RTSCTS disabled for now once I finish writing my serial port management code.
<braewoods> See if it actually matters for my specific use case.
<braewoods> It's possible that code isn't even needed and was there because other code did it.
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