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<nintendo1889> Is there a recipe for aria2? The cli downloading tool?
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<zdykstra> so BFS wizards, how do I clean up an e-mail status that was created when testing something? https://somebits.link/u/p/036576f002/screenshot20.png
<zdykstra> I've since reset the status to 'Read', but it's still somewhere on my system
<waddlesplash> zdykstra: unrelatedly I just noticed those vector icons aren't DPI scaled
<waddlesplash> need to use ComposeIconSize here
<waddlesplash> easy fix for you to do, I think :)
<zdykstra> hah, yeah
<waddlesplash> zdykstra: this menu adds items from the "_status" index
<waddlesplash> so, query your partition that way
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<zdykstra> danke - I wasn't expecting it to be something that simple :)
<waddlesplash> what were you expecting, a multi-tiered cache accumulating predicted usages of past mail statuses?! :-p
<zdykstra> I don't know, I forget how clever queries can be on Haiku :P
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]
<Begasus> Early bird today? :)
<andreasdr[m]> Yes.
<andreasdr[m]> Need to finish some work here today.
<Begasus> On it then! ;)
<Begasus> Got your coffee to keep you focussed? ;)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b7bbb1b2882e...9b658eb9938f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9b658eb - sox, disable static library (#8264)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9b658eb9938f...62f811c74cd8
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 62f811c - twolame, disable static library (#8265)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/62f811c74cd8...2d58c444225d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 2d58c44 - dumb, disable static libraries, remove libtool files (#8266)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2d58c444225d...e4d0357c7386
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e4d0357 - wildmidi, cleanup (#8267)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e4d0357c7386...e15b959da7ba
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e15b959 - embree, cleanup (#8268)
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<Begasus> Morning OscarL
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<OscarL> Hey there, Begasus!
<Begas_VM> Coffee ready?
<OscarL> Noup. Haven't bought any yet :-(. "Mate y pan duro", as the saying goes here... "Mate (the drink), and hard bread".
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> well, you can soak the bread in the Mate then :)
<OscarL> Noup (unless it was "mate cocido", that goes in to a cup)... regular mate looks like this: https://locosxelmate.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MATE.jpg
<OscarL> guess it soaks in the mouth anyway, tho :-D
<Begas_VM> heh
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<Begas_VM> 'lo matt1
<matt1> hello Begas_VM
<matt1> intel vs powerpc => the same ...
<matt1> read from left to right ... or ... from right to left
<matt1> endianess
<Begas_VM> never met an indian ;)
<matt1> xD
<matt1> the indians vs chicago bulls :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e15b959da7ba...ec6fefa1b3c3
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ec6fefa - fdk_aac, disable static library (#8270)
<matt1> hello => mistake ... mirc in fullscreen ... now ok
<OscarL> Saw this one already Begasus? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18340
<Begasus> think it was/is the same as nephele had?
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<OscarL> not sure, as the ticket is newer than the latest revision on that SDL2 recipe...
<OscarL> too bad the ticket doesn't specifies which revision of the package he was using.
<Begasus> yeah, saw that, maybe you or nephele could reply there? (well, it should be at haikuports instead as humdinger replied)
<OscarL> no harm in adding a comment about adding the revision. Will do that.
<Begasus> +1
<nephele> They should just open a ticket at haikuports indeed
<nephele> OscarL: but fwif the issue mentioned is another one to the one i'd fixed, but i encountered this too, just not when building locally... then it was fine
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<OscarL> Do you think we could drop that "REPLACES_python310" in the latest version already?
<OscarL> I mean... nothing in-tree was even requiring "fonttools_python3" to begin with.
<OscarL> (nor any of the "cmd:" it provides)
<Begasus> neither does it show up when searching with pkgman
<Begasus> I would say OK :)
<OscarL> k. thanks.
<Begasus> request a review from korli too :)
<OscarL> I can't request reviews, guess I'll just @korli :-)
<Begas_VM> that works too :)
<OscarL> just wanting to get rid of any "_python3" results when I use "inrecipe" :-P
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ec6fefa1b3c3...d021a68f7775
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d021a68 - rtmpdump, cleanup, move cmd's to tools package (#8271)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d021a68f7775...bfd44ddcff6c
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus bfd44dd - flickcurl, disable static library, cleanup (#8272)
<OscarL> Guess that after the Python 2.7 / 3.7 clean up... we should try to reduce the code duplication as per that https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/2541 you linked, and as waddlesplash commented on https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/pull/232.
<Begasus> yeah saw that :)
<OscarL> Meanwhile... I'm stil not done :-(
<Begasus> your list is shorter then mine I guess :P
<Begasus> although mine is easier (in most cases) ;)
<OscarL> being my first time makes is seems worse than it really is, I think :-) (still not really up to speed)
<Begasus> even build gnash earlier (as it isn't in the depot, although enabled) :)
<OscarL> lots of little things fall through the cracks over time, it seems :-)
<Begasus> yeah, those that only provide cmd's I'm not touching (but guess there could be some cleanups done there too)
<Begasus> saw a few using "apps" instead of "app" in there, should be fixed also
<Begasus> lol, should have written those down ;)
<OscarL> I keep tripping over bash expansion to "" for wrongly named variables :-/
<OscarL> at least now I *know* I have a problem... just need to find out where :-P
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> gah... darn typo.... defaulVariable vs defaultVariable.
<Begasus> "t"ssss ;)
<OscarL> heh
<OscarL> would be cool if hp gave a warning about superfluous PROVIDES.... (as in "cmd:blabla" and blabla not being actually there)
<Begasus> you're the python expert, write a scriplet for it in haikuporters one? ;)
* OscarL looks at the ceiling while whistling
<Begasus> written clues up there?
<OscarL> nah.. just some old spider webs :-)
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<OscarL> We should only "REQUIRE" *direct* dependencies, right? as in... this needs "installer", that depends on setuptools... but setuptools is not used directly. Should *not* list setuptools in that case, right?
<Begasus> should be in BUILD_PREREQUIRES then?
<OscarL> setuptools? I mean... it is pulled automatically due to installer requiring it already.
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<OscarL> k. it does needs setuptoos at least in BUILD_REQUIRES.
<matt1> cu ... ;)
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<OscarL> This was even putting setuptools in "REQUIRES_*"... that sounded a bit excessive :-D
<Begasus> right :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bfd44ddcff6c...9894408a1d04
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9894408 - vcdimager, disable static library, cleanup (#8273)
<Begasus> would be nice to see 32bit buildmaster being online again :/
<OscarL> that too.
<OscarL> Edited my comment on https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/pull/232, to mention the different needs of "setup.py" vs "pyproject.toml" in python packages.
<Begasus> heh, looks like having both "build" and "installer" turns out to be usefull ;)
<OscarL> indeed! it's either that... or packaging Poetry :-/
<OscarL> as long as build+installer work... let poetry to actual poets :-P
<Begasus> as you mentioned there, ran into some python ones that required them and we didn't have them at that time :)
<OscarL> s/let/leave/
<Begasus> not even sure what that is about ...
<OscarL> ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
<Begasus> probably had some use at one point, but I don't see anything there worth keeping
<OscarL> re: VCD imager... man... last time I've touched a VideoCD was in 2001. A pirated copy of The Matrix in two discs (no subtitles, English only).
<Begasus> never had any, but know of them :)
<Begasus> wireshark, that could take a while, back to "media-libs" here :)
<Begas_VM> jikes, python
<OscarL> Ah... I see that both build and installer do not list "setuptools" in their "REQUIRES_*"...
<OscarL> that's why we're forced to add setuptools ourselves then.
<Begas_VM> whoops ;)
<OscarL> no biggie.... it just sounded weird to me to have to list "build/install/wheel" AND setuptools :-D
<OscarL> s/install/installer/
<Begas_VM> patches welcome :)
<OscarL> sure :-)
<OscarL> a single PR for both? (for cleanup style + fixed runtime requirements), or separate ones?
<Begas_VM> yeah, should be ok
<Begas_VM> both*
<Begas_VM> bugger ... waiting for build ... :/
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<OscarL> so... we have "build" version 0.8.0, that includes a setup.py, so we can build it with setuptools, same with version 0.9.0. But version 0.10.0... requires a working build already, I guess, as it no longer provides a setup.py file :-D
<OscarL> we might want to update 0.8.0 -> 0.9.0, and use that for a new recipe for 0.10.0, just in case?
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<OscarL> (as in... keep both 0.9.0 and 0.10.0)
<OscarL> I will have to take a better look at all the dependencies involved.
<Begas_VM> a bootstrap version for 0.9.0 maybe? ;)
<OscarL> yup, something like that.
<OscarL> 'tomli >= 1.1.0; python_version < "3.11"' <<<< Haikuporter could learn that trick from "pyproject.toml" files.
<keshavgupta> do you want to build a snowman
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<keshavgupta> please ignore the above message
<Begas_VM> too late ;)
<OscarL> I will not do such thing, keshavgupta! I do want a snowman now!!! WHERE IS MY SNOWMAN!!!
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<OscarL> it melted, I guess :-(
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<Begas_VM> ;)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9894408a1d04...d4fbc16dfc7d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d4fbc16 - flif, disable static library (#8274)
<Begasus> stupid autotools, using a mix of bindir and sbindir to install their binaries ...
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<Begas_VM> latest fontconfig not checked on 32bit (lots of parse errors) ...
<Begas_VM> ;)
<OscarL> those where you need to add { } around code blocks?
<OscarL> or can you just switch to x86?
<waddlesplash> Begasus: is 32bit buildmaster really still offline?
<OscarL> "Status all builders lost"
<waddlesplash> ugh
<OscarL> Tue Apr 04 2023 09:03:13 GMT-0300
<Begas_VM> yep
<Begas_VM> time for the dogs, biab
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<Begasus> re
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d4fbc16dfc7d...1fc292256e95
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1fc2922 - avahi, fix 32bit build (#8276)
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<OscarL> Begasus: maybe that "--bindir=$commandBinDir --sbindir=$commandBinDir" should be fixed in Haikuporter's runConfigure?
<OscarL> (I'm thinking it should do that automatically, I mean)
<OscarL> or is is not used *that* frequently?
<Begasus> not used that frequently
<Begasus> but guess it would be a good candidate
<Begasus> maybe something for waddlesplash :)
<Begasus> hmm
<Begasus> nope
<Begasus> it is already fixed
<Begasus> we just need to ommit the dirs
<Begasus> omit*
<OscarL> (I think I expressed myself wrong. I was trying to say: "I think hp should internally make sure that $sbinDir == $binDir, without one manually expressing that")
<Begasus> ah ;)
<Begasus> I don't even know the difference ;)
<OscarL> heh... I make *that* much sense, right? :-P
<Begasus> I get what you mean now, but don't know why one is installed in bindir and others are installed in sbindir
<OscarL> that bin/sbin isn't just a *nix disctinction/quirk we don't have?
<Begasus> beats me
<OscarL> the description for Avahi says: "primarily targetting Linux." and it shows that :-D
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> it's not only avahi using them
<Begasus> seems related to binaries used by system administrators
<Begasus> since Haiku is single user I guess it's why we don't have sbindir
<OscarL> that's why I was thinking runConfigure should just handle that, by making sure sbinDir == binDir :-P
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<Begasus> Port.py, line 1167 ;)
<OscarL> yes, but when you use "--omit-dirs binDir".... it then does the right thing? as in... setting sbinDir = to the one you just passed in?
<Begasus> for primary arch this isn't a problem
<OscarL> (if so... then you shouldn't need to omit sbinDir, nor pass it as you did in the avahi recipe. .... and that was what I was trying to express earilier :-D)
<Begasus> for secondary arch where we install the binaries in $prefix/bin instead of $binDir it is
<Begasus> so if you don't omit sbindir it will install in $prefix/bin/x86 (binDir) instead of $prefix/bin
<OscarL> sounds buggy to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Begasus> well, you can drop omit and just install them to $binDir :P
<OscarL> If I'd ran into that in a recipe... I'd open an enhancement request for it :-D
<Begasus> it get's complicated also if you only binaries installed for primary and not secondary arch ;)
<Begasus> s/only/only want/
<OscarL> Guess cactuses were right yesterday... it's raining.
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> sun is shining here
* OscarL 's a bit of a vampire, always running away from sunlight.
<Begasus> k, why isn't latest c_ares not enbabled for primary on 32bit?
<Begasus> builds fine
<OscarL> Welp... if I don't do so... I get *badly* sunburns, so...
<OscarL> so... it might not be "build" the one missing a setuptools dependencie... but actually one if *its* dependencies that is missing that :-/
<OscarL> My head is spinning a bit already :-D
<OscarL> might need to grap paper and pen for these ones.
<Begasus> heh
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<Begasus> seems to been marked "!" for primary since version 1.11.0
<Begasus> hi jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> hi Begasus
<OscarL> seems I *always* get "src" and "dst" wrong when using *nix utilities :-/
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-5/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1fc292256e95...4fe9972bc4f0
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4fe9972 - fontconfig, remove old recipes/patches, mark x86_gcc2 broken on latest version (#8277)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-2/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4fe9972bc4f0...9b34bc33eb12
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9b34bc3 - c_ares, enable x86_gcc2 for latest version, remove old (#8278)
<Begasus> ah, 32bit buildmaster is alive again :)
<OscarL> still not using "-G". Boooh! :-P
<nosycat> W00t! Hi, Begasus.
<Begasus> hi nosycat :)
* OscarL waves at nosycat.
<nosycat> Hey, OscarL.
<Begasus> if someone sees anything broken due to updates, please tell :)
<Begasus> nice, all good on buildmaster :D
<OscarL> I'm pretty broke, does that counts?
<Begasus> got to many dependencies that are broke OscarL :P
<Begasus> s/broke/broken/
<Begasus> ;)
* OscarL looks at his wallet... yeah... dependencies...
<Begasus> heh
<nosycat> Mood.
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<OscarL> Hey... I live in Argentina... we're just basically a never-ending economic distaster.
<OscarL> sooo... seems "build" *actually* requires setuptools at runtime after all, at least for versions up to 0.9.0...
<OscarL> then they dropped that in favor of "flit", and offer no setup.py anymore because "f*ck you packagers!"... Guess I'll just make sure the 0.9.0 update works...
<OscarL> and then see if updating flit / installer provides alternatives for bootstrap cases.
<OscarL> flit_core via it's bootstrapper... then installer via flit_core, then build via installer, then we're all set.
<OscarL> Piece of cake.
<zdykstra> ooh, I want a piece of cake
* OscarL slaps a cake in zdykstra's face
<OscarL> There!
<OscarL> Now you only need to steal that coffee from your wife, and all set :-)
<zdykstra> not to be picky, but where's the glass of milk?
<nosycat> Looney Tunes OS.
<OscarL> has she forgiven you zdykstra? :-D
<nosycat> "So... What's the uptime, doc?"
<Begas_VM> k, aftter updating nothing seems broken here :)
<Begas_VM> lol OscarL
<OscarL> Such an honor! :-)
<Begas_VM> be glad it's that one, and not the one zdykstra mentioned yesterday :P
<OscarL> heh
<zdykstra> OscarL: she has :)
<OscarL> :-)
<Begas_VM> 'lo humdinger :)
<humdinger> hello everyone
<OscarL> \o
<nosycat> o/
<zdykstra> humdinger: thoughts on adding a few paths by default to the ignore list in QuickLaunch ?
<OscarL> or matching against "contains" instead of starts-with?
<zdykstra> /boot/system/libs has a few libraries that the QL query picks up, but aren't actually something you can run
<zdykstra> that'd be a good default too
<humdinger> Not sure if we don't want to leave it to the user to add to their ignore list.
<humdinger> WRT "contains", there's alread an option for it
* OscarL should look closer, and with his eyes open.
<humdinger> disable "Search from start of application names"
<OscarL> did, thank you!
<zdykstra> okay
<humdinger> this is my ignore list: https://0x0.st/HHCo.png
<humdinger> it's really just /system/lib that could be the default, I think
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<humdinger> most users won't need /system/servers either
<humdinger> but others may not realize there's an ignore list and wonder why no servers are found
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<zdykstra> if they're advanced enough to be launching servers, they're advanced enough to look at the preferences :P
<humdinger> one hopes...
<Begas_VM> samba ... this is gonna hurt ...
<humdinger> they are also advanced wough to config to their wishes. :)
<Begas_VM> k, who did libalut ...
<Begas_VM> or freealut ...
<zdykstra> I guess. I think that for 99% of users, a few paths could/should be excluded by default.
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<zdykstra> but hey, it doesn't matter what I think - I'm not the author of the software :)
<Begasus> libVersion is not portVersion there ;)
<Begas_VM> means packages relying on it need a revbump
<zdykstra> Stereo Begasus
<OscarL> Filling up the "COPYRIGHT" is annoying, most projects I've seen do not clearly state that anywhere (and I haven't seen that field used much, if at all while looking at repology).
<Begas_VM> when nothing is mentioned I mostly grep the source for copyright OscarL
<OscarL> I did to.. still annoying, and not fruitful in all cases.
<OscarL> also... seems like I'm just making something up (unless it is clearly stated somewhere on the project). Changes in project ownership do not help :-D
<OscarL> I'm tempted to just put: "COPYRIGHT= I guess so" :-P
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<Begas_VM> no authors list?
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<Begas_VM> then maybe "foo et all" :P
<OscarL> I think I did that already, yeah.
<OscarL> no year, just the github user handle.
<Begas_VM> I mostly take the year from first rellease to last release (if around) :)
<OscarL> Feels kinda useless, that's my point.
<Begas_VM> no cmd/man files?
<OscarL> (if it's just something I've made up)
<OscarL> I mean... do we need to hunt down that info? for what?
<Begas_VM> errr ... copyright? ;)
<OscarL> but I'm just making it up unless the project clearly states it? doesn't sounds too "legal". Again.. I don't see that on fedora/gentoo/.deb "recipes". so... how that works? Unless I've missed it on those?
<OscarL> License/docs seems enough. Python's projects also do not list a "copyright" anywhere on PyPi that I can see.
<OscarL> Anyway... back to chasing deps :-D
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<jmairboeck> OscarL: usually the copyright is part of the license file, but if it is a common license that will end up being used by many packages and end up in the common "licenses" folder, so we have to have the copyright separately.
<OscarL> yeah... still... a real pain in the rear for python projects... pyproject.toml only list license, eg: MIT. sources headers only contain : "#SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT", etc, etc.
<Begas_VM> checked the pypy(?) site?
<OscarL> it's not *one* project. seems most of the ones I touch are that way.
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<OscarL> PyPi does not lists copyrights., at best you get "author". no year.
<Begasus> mostly the maintainers are mentioned there
<OscarL> maintainers are not necessarily the copyright holders, etc. etc.
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> you're just want be right ;)
<Begasus> wright* :D
<jmairboeck> for that one, clicking on "source" goes to github, and there the first line in the LICENSE file is "Copyright (c) 2015, Thomas Kluyver and contributors"
<OscarL> not only right... copyright!
<jmairboeck> I would just that as such
<Begasus> was just an example ;)
* humdinger waves
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9b34bc33eb12...2395bb9375d4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 2395bb9 - echat, remove unused patch (no recipe) from the repo (#8279)
<Begasus> there, cu echat! :)
<Begas_VM> upgrade package freealut_x86-1.1.0-4 to 1.1.0-4 from repository HaikuPorts
<Begas_VM> why doesn't it try to use the one I have installed now?
<OscarL> aaand pep517 got "renamed to" / "replaced by" pyproject_hooks (plus "build") :-/
<Begas_VM> for astromenace_x86
<Begas_VM> it should give an warning that libversion should be wrong ...
<OscarL> Begas_VM: you installed it as a system package?
<Begas_VM> yep
<OscarL> the one you built I mean... pkgman always wants to replace those if the version-revision match.
<OscarL> unless you install it as user package.
<Begas_VM> tsss ...
<OscarL> move it to ~/config/packages and see if it works?
<Begas_VM> if SONAME's are incorrect, it always leeds to issues ...
<OscarL> (I guess it wants to "upgrade" locally-built, system-installed packages cause the hash don't match, or something?)
<OscarL> oh, is that like the other day... where the libVersion went from 3 to 2 after fixing the wrong "compat" ?
<Begas_VM> yes
<OscarL> ouch.
<Begas_VM> how LO got broken
<Begas_VM> problem 1: package astromenace_x86-1.4.1-1 requires lib:libalut_x86>=1.1.0, but none of the providers can be installed
<Begas_VM> that I needed to know
<Begas_VM> it's 0.1.0 actually
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2395bb9375d4...b4a0631bf3e9
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b4a0631 - freealut, update libVersionCompat, revbump depending recipes (#8280)
<Begasus> bbl, hope buildmaster will take the correct order ...
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<OscarL> heh, if someone wants to play some TombRider in Haiku... (https://github.com/LostArtefacts/Tomb1Main), this is getting in the way for the author of that: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/8275
<OscarL> (author of the attempted port, I guess)
<OscarL> https://github.com/LostArtefacts/Tomb1Main/issues/716 (seems it worked before the SDL2 update broke it)
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<erysdren> is there a cross compiler to build C applications for Haiku from linux? maybe i haven't looked hard enough
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<OscarL> erysdren: https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/ there the "buildtools" repo is mentioned as containing the necessary tools for cross-compilation (in the context of building Haikum, but I guess it could serve your purpose?)
<OscarL> I only compile stuff from inside Haiku, so... you might want to ask again when more "in the know" are around.
<OscarL> *more "in the know" people are around.
<jmairboeck> erysdren: there is a docker image with a cross compiler: https://github.com/haiku/haiku/tree/master/3rdparty/docker/cross-compiler
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56895] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=095b3813108d+%5Ecc889ed79aa4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 095b3813108d - BitmapStream: fix grayscale AVIF decoding
<jmairboeck> the buildtools are only suitable for building Haiku itself, they would require some extra setup.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56896] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6781d35fcc90+%5E095b3813108d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6781d35fcc90 - Deskbar: Removed Utilities.h include from BarApp
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 863bf67d8dd4 - Deskbar: Scale leaf/team menu with bold font only
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<Begas_VM> re
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<OscarL> wb
<OscarL> Seems NumPy will be dropping 3.8 before us: "On Apr 14, 2023 drop support for Python 3.8 (initially released on Oct 14, 2019)", from https://numpy.org/neps/nep-0029-deprecation_policy.html
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<Begas_VM> good luck on that one ;)
<OscarL> that's for later :-D
<OscarL> seems fonttools has been dragging this "REPLACES_*" since ages ago.
<OscarL> people just kept updating it because it was there, I guess :-)
<OscarL> (the REPLACES_ line, I mean).
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<OscarL> k. no more PRs for today. Not a really productive day, I guess. But I think I got a clearer picture of the Python packaging tools landscape at least (still a mess).
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<OscarL> Got "build" 0.10.0 working. But I should submit the clean-up for 0.8.0 + update to 0.9.0 first. Less disruptive changes that way, I guess.
<Begas_VM> probably :)
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<OscarL> Off for today. End your day well, Begas_VM!! See you tomorrow!
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<Begasus> heading down here, g'night peeps
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