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<zdykstra> Spring weather hit something fierce here, and now it's all I can do to spend time inside :)
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<andreasdr> Hi there!
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "trungnt2910: strace seems..." <- Fixed in `hcrev239`.
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-3/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ebc140d983c9...d205d6a4d388
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] jmairboeck d205d6a - ghostscript_gpl: bump version, remove ghostscript8 (#8320)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d205d6a4d388...8fd2bca1a551
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8fd2bca - dovecot, disable static libraries, remove libtool files (#8359)
<Begasus> trims +2MB from the package ;)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8fd2bca1a551...42962b0c1318
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 42962b0 - libfreehand, fix build for werror (#8360)
<trungnt2910[m]> Anyone know a small HaikuPorts package without many dependencies? Something that's good for testing?
<trungnt2910[m]> s/know/knows/
<Begas_VM> weather/album?
<Begas_VM> those were mostly used for new peeps in GCI ;)
<trungnt2910[m]> I prefer something on the CLI, else I would have used artpaint in the example :)
<Habbie> tio is a port with one dependency that has the benefit of being recently new
<Habbie> so it should be reflecting best practices
<x512[m]> trungnt2910[m]: zlib?
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<trungnt2910[m]> Does installing the Python3.10 package provide the python3 command?
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<Begasus> nope
<Begasus> you need python3.9 for that
<trungnt2910[m]> Oh...
<trungnt2910[m]> That's quite confusing.
<trungnt2910[m]> I initially thought it was a HyClone bug...
<Begasus> python3.9 became default a while back (before that python3 came from python3.7)
<Begasus_32> ~> python3 --version
<Begasus_32> Python 3.9.16
<trungnt2910[m]> Yeah, I installed python3.9 and it works fine.
<Begasus> nice :)
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<x512[m]> > fix: I found this tool on a random forum and my fate began to change.
<x512[m]> It will be nice if that tool will also work for Haiku itself.
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: I thought nobody would read that :)
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: Porting ASAN would be quite a lot of work.
<x512[m]> What is libroot part of HyClone?
<x512[m]> Regular Haiku libroot.so is not used?
<trungnt2910[m]> The folder is called libroot but it doesn't contain the real libroot, just some build scripts.
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: No, like I said in previous messages, only `libroot` and `runtime_loader` is modified.
<trungnt2910[m]> s/is/are/
<trungnt2910[m]> Other binaries are from Haiku.
<trungnt2910[m]> libroot and runtime_loader seem to be the only binaries that contain syscall instructions in an official Haiku distribution.
<x512[m]> Isn't it possible to only hook some symbols from original libroot.so?
<trungnt2910[m]> HyClone is only hooking a few problematic symbols.
<x512[m]> For example runtime_loader will resolve kern* symbols to itself instead of libroot.so.
<x512[m]> s/runtime_loader/runtime\_loader/, s/kern*/\_kern\_\*/
<trungnt2910[m]> 90% of the modified libroot is actually objects from the official Haiku source code.
<trungnt2910[m]> Objects that contain some problematic functions (syscalls, TLS access, system time,...) are removed.
<trungnt2910[m]> All of these objects are then combined with HyClone-specific objects and reassembled into a modified libroot.so.
<x512[m]> 32 bit x86 Haiku may have problem with TLS because TLS access is inlined.
<trungnt2910[m]> That would be a real problem as HyClone's Linux-side code make heavy use of thread_local variables.
<trungnt2910[m]> But I'm not working on 32-bit support or HoH64 for HyClone, at least not in the near future as WSL doesn't support 32-bit anyway.
<x512[m]> Maybe 32 bit is not so important today.
<x512[m]> trungnt2910: Updated and rebuilt source but it seems nothing changes.
<trungnt2910[m]> uname -a?
<trungnt2910[m]> Try pulling again, I'm on hcrev243, there have been quite a few changes after 239.
<trungnt2910[m]> Also after rebuilding make sure libroot, haiku_loader and hyclone_server are consistent. The ABI between them frequently break.
<x512[m]> What it proper update sequence? Are make install enougth?
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: You then have to copy `libroot.so` to the `$HPREFIX`.
<trungnt2910[m]> And also restart HyClone (shutdown -q from Haiku shell or killall -9 haiku_loader hyclone_server on Linux)
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<trungnt2910[m]> Can you examine the contents of $HPREFIX/.hyclone.log to see what the _kern_loading_app_failed means?
<x512[m]> 8 GB of RAM here.
<trungnt2910[m]> This might be the problem:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/sTlqUnvlzwnCGNKJlHNGPliz>)
<trungnt2910[m]> Try to strace the faulty processes and see what addressSpec it tries to map/create_area.
<x512[m]> /boot/system/servers> strace ./launch_daemon
<x512[m]> strace: Failed to get info for thread 14819: Bad thread ID
<x512[m]> _kern_loading_app_failed
<trungnt2910[m]> Linux doesn't have anything equivalent to BASE_ADDRESS. EXACT_ADDRESS can be emulated with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE, but that's only available on newer Linux versions.
<trungnt2910[m]> > <@x512:matrix.org> ```... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/lHLJQzjyyxOpfXdpivIeNRwY>)
<trungnt2910[m]> Why not strace bash -c '/boot/system/servers/launch_daemon'.
<trungnt2910[m]> * Let's try then strace bash -c '/boot/system/servers/launch_daemon'.
<trungnt2910[m]> * Let's try strace bash -c '/boot/system/servers/launch_daemon' then.
<x512[m]> strace for simple programs works.
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: `strace` should work provided that the program lives long enough for it to attach a debugger to.
<trungnt2910[m]> [ 18394] map_file("libicui18n.so.66.1_seg0ro", [0x47d416a000], B_EXACT_ADDRESS, 0x2f7000, B_READ_AREA | B_WRITE_AREA | B_OVERCOMMITTING_AREA, 0x1, false, 0x4, 0x0) = 0x80000000 ([0x47d416a000]) (28 us)
<x512[m]> reserve_address_range is not working?
<trungnt2910[m]> It's quite strange since the range has already been reserved:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/KjiecvctoWslfpLYUMcAwUxn>)
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: I've pushed a fix. Can you try the latest commit?
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<x512[m]> Can't exit from there 😅
<trungnt2910[m]> killall -9 haiku_loader hyclone
<trungnt2910[m]> s//`/, s/hyclone/hyclone_server`/
<trungnt2910[m]> I have to use this command so much that I turned it into an alias in .bashrc.
<trungnt2910[m]> bash seems to block SIGINT.
<x512[m]> Not it do not start at all.
<x512[m]> s/Not/Now/
<trungnt2910[m]> Probably this is the time to rebuild everything with -DHYCLONE_USE_SANITIZERS=1.
<trungnt2910[m]> (Add this to the cmake step)
<trungnt2910[m]> Is hyclone_server still running?
<x512[m]> user@localhost:~/Packages/hyclone/build/install/bin> pgrep hyclone_server
<x512[m]> 25562
<trungnt2910[m]> Try to haiku_loader bash --login again and see what happens.
<trungnt2910[m]> Hmm it doesn't print a stacktrace.
<x512[m]> -fno-omit-frame-pointer may be needed.
<trungnt2910[m]> It does print a stacktrace on my machine when I encountered a bug. Probably distro-dependent then?
<trungnt2910[m]> If I encounter this on my machine I would try to run it on gdb (`gdb --args haiku_loader bash --login`) and then try to get a backtrace from there. Make sure that `hyclone_server` is already running in the background though.
<trungnt2910[m]> If that doesn't help then I'd insert a bunch of `printf` statements as a last resort.
<trungnt2910[m]> This is really strange as once you've jumped to loader_hserver_call_*, there should be no pointer access or the like.
<trungnt2910[m]> Can you revert the latest commit and the rebuild to see if the same thing happens? The latest commit isn't supposed to introduce any new hostcall and/or servercall.
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<x512[m]> reserve_address_range and mmap problem recovers.
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/42962b0c1318...8c75b656a476
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8c75b65 - libheif, disable static library (#8362)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8c75b656a476...81b772f813d4
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 81b772f - libicns, disable static library (#8363)
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<win8linux[m]> Does HaikuPorter clone Git repos including submodules by default or does something extra need to be done for that?
<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "Screenshot_20230413_205738.png" <- This is hard. I've tried running HyClone on WSL2 (Ubuntu 22.04, Linux 5.15.90) but I couldn't reproduce this.
<Begasus> win8linux[m], from my experience it doesn't
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/81b772f813d4...36d7831f7017
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 36d7831 - libinstpatch, fix header install path, cleanup (#8364)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/36d7831f7017...5ba433b019c0
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 5ba433b - libiptcdata, don't enable static library, enable secondary arch on 32bit (#8365)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5ba433b019c0...1ab67b3c3181
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1ab67b3 - rawtherapee, enable 32bit build (#8366)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1ab67b3c3181...77d108ebdef6
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 77d108e - wget2, disable static library (#8367)
<augiedoggie> hm, dev.haiku-os.org appears to be redirecting the the main site
<win8linux[m]> Begasus, what needs to be done in order to pull in submodules for a recipe?
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<augiedoggie> and... now it's working for me
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<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "Screenshot_20230413_205738.png" <- May I ask which distro this is?
<trungnt2910[m]> This might be some kind of subtle bug. By simply switching to WSL2 I've uncovered a few bugs in `hyclone_server`.
<trungnt2910[m]> I'll try debugging in your distro tomorrow.
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<Begasus> win8linux[m], tried pulling in the other sources as SOURCE_URI_* ... ?
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<PulkoMandy> in haikuports we don't allow getting sources from git anyways, because it's not possible to check integrity (like a sha1 checksum of a downloaded archive)
<PulkoMandy> so, haikuporter may still support downloading things from git, but no one really uses it
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/77d108ebdef6...469130740ec3
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4691307 - libjxl, remove static libraries (#8368)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/469130740ec3...fdfa4c8c733a
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus fdfa4c8 - liblo, remove libtool file (#8369)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/fdfa4c8c733a...d08aae56febe
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy d08aae5 - libsdl2: do not chdir if started from Terminal.
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<Begasus> k, done for today ;) (dogschool in a bit)
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<trungnt2910[m]> Magic!
<win8linux[m]> Noticed that on some websites, Web+ encounters an error that displays the system-provided crash dialog.
<win8linux[m]> However, Web+ remains functional if the dialog is ignored.
<win8linux[m]> Quite similar to Falkon's so-called crashes, except that web browser uses a multiproocess web engine.
<win8linux[m]> Is Web+ now using multiprocess WebKit in some capacity?
<PulkoMandy> no
<PulkoMandy> there may be threads running in the background (and sometimes) for various reasons
<PulkoMandy> don't you think there would be an announcement and celebration when I manage to get webkit2 (the multiprocess version) merged? (I'm working on it, but I'm making slow progress)
<win8linux[m]> Heh true. :D
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<tqh> sooo, any news :)
<PulkoMandy> yes, I wrote a replacement for BeDC to see my logs, and I'm still cleaning up the commits in the webkit2 branch and slowly merging them into the main branch now
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<andreasdr[m]> Nice
<Skipp_OSX> woot
<andreasdr[m]> :DDD
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<tqh> ooh!
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<zdykstra> it's so cool seeing people work on this system/ecosystem - you're all fantastic :)
<andreasdr[m]> I second that. I love the progress Haiku has made and cant await to try it as daily driver once we have some 3d hw accel.
<Skipp_OSX> It's true, it seems like we're getting closer and closer to having a really functional OS which is nice to see.
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<Skipp_OSX> what does the [m] mean?
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<andreasdr[m]> Oh. Its just that I am using Matrix
<andreasdr[m]> As chat client
<Skipp_OSX> Matrix, gotcha
<andreasdr[m]> :)
<PulkoMandy> People seem happy to give them free advertising in their nicknames
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<zdykstra> it's automatically added by the Matrix <> IRC bridge, afaik
<Skipp_OSX> "The woman in the red dress, I designed her. She, um…well she doesn’t talk very much, but… if you’d like to meet her, I can arrange a much more personalized milieu."
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<andreasdr[m]> Just like we automatically die in the wide of the space and universe.
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<x512[m]> <trungnt2910[m]> "May I ask which distro this is?" <- OpenSuse, as can be visible on some screenshots.
<trungnt2910[m]> What about the version?
<x512[m]> openSUSE Tumbleweed. I am not sure does it have global versioning.
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<x512[m]> It seems needed to make distinction between dynamically attached driver nodes and published bus device child nodes in Haiku device manager.
<x512[m]> Child device nodes should be not considered as currently attached driver nodes.
<x512[m]> -<<- mark means dynamic driver attachment by node attribute matching.
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