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<zdykstra> Heh, turning on power saving mode (via process controller) on my haiku desktop results in huge CPU usage spikes
<zdykstra> It's constantly re-clocking the cores
<Skipp_OSX> well that seems less than ideal
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<waddlesplash> ouch
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56900] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d8eeb8a4cc50+%5E9fe85f9688c7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d8eeb8a4cc50 - Debugger: explain target must be specified for CLI debugger
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Begasus> Think this could use an update on the year :) https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/LICENSE.md
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<andreasdr[m]> :)
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m] :)
<Begasus> How's the work going?
<zdykstra> Hola, Begasus
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<Begasus> Hi zdykstra :)
<andreasdr[m]> It works!!! :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> Hi zdykstra
<Begasus> nice, congrats andreasdr[m] !
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/09328fcf75c1...359b0e5b689d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 359b0e5 - glew, fixes and use libVersionCompat (#8287)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/359b0e5b689d...66339987d3bb
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 6633998 - gsoap, bump version, cleanup (#8289)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/66339987d3bb...780b7f94408e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 780b7f9 - pyproject_hooks: new recipe. (#8281)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/780b7f94408e...3a0e480555d6
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 3a0e480 - fonttools: recipe cleanup. (#8282)
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<Begasus> Habbie, did you read the Makefile for libtermkey? ;)
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<Habbie> Begasus, maybe? it's been a few weeks, i got distracted
<Habbie> but i see you posted a comment
<Habbie> which i will read later
<Begasus> no need to mv around the targets, they can be set with make install
<Habbie> ah great
<Begasus> no .a but there is .la
<Begasus> gcc2 produces parse errors so you can mark that as broken :)
<Habbie> ok, is this all in your comments? :)
<Begasus> ah, there is a static one too :)
<Begasus> not yet ;)
<Begasus> libVersionCompat could be used too :)
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<Begasus_32> readelf -d libtermkey.so.1.14.2 | grep SONAME
<Begasus_32> 0x0000000e (SONAME) Library soname: [libtermkey.so.1]
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<Begasus_32> Variable 'prefix' not defined in '/boot/system/develop/lib/x86/pkgconfig/termkey.pc'
<Begasus_32> pkg-config-x86 termkey --cflags --libs
<Begasus_32> -I/packages/libtermkey_x86-0.22-1/.self/develop/headers/x86 -L/packages/libtermkey_x86-0.22-1/.self/develop/lib/x86 -ltermkey
<Begasus> better :)
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<Begasus> k, think I'm done for the libtermkey recipe Habbie ;)
<Begasus> TRE could be something for OscarL ;)
<Habbie> ta
<Begasus> ta?
<Begasus> vis looks OK, though I prefer commandBinDir being used to install the binaries :)
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<Habbie> ta = thank you :)
<Habbie> Begasus, ok, please do comment that :)
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<Begasus> already did earlier Habbie
<Habbie> ah good
<Begasus> actually I see augiedoggie and korli commented there too
<Begasus> replied there too, let's see what korli (or anyone else) thinks of it, if not then we might as well drop the whole commandDir thing ...
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3a0e480555d6...a3e797182223
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a3e7971 - hubbub, don't build/install the static libraries (#8290)
<Begasus> this one is done correctly jmairboeck ;)
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<jmairboeck> nice Begasus :)
<Begasus> heh
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a3e797182223...79d5b69496db
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 79d5b69 - glpng, add secondary architecture support, add libVersioCompat, switch build to cmake (#8291)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/79d5b69496db...205abec8c1e9
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 205abec - kdsoap, cleanup, use libVersionCompat (#8292)
<jmairboeck> Begasus: if you are coming as far as opencascade (in sci-libs) with your clean-up work: I'm currently updating that (it is building right now).
<Begasus> not there yet ;)
<jmairboeck> there is some cleanup regarding the cmake and make invocation there, I've done that too
<Begasus> one is still in media-libs (large directory), other is busy in net-libs
<Begasus> thanks!
<Begasus> I'm keeping things on par here for the repositories, that way I'm uptodate with merged PR's
<Begasus> but good to know you are doing the work there!
<jmairboeck> what is the status of my other open PRs (libxml2, icu70 and texlive)?
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<Begasus> from my point of view they should be good to go, did you get a chance to see, if you can update icu to a newer version as waddlesplash suggested?
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<jmairboeck> I haven't tried yet, maybe I could do that (after opencascade is done)
<jmairboeck> there is also https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/7665 by PulkoMandy regarding ICU 67
<Begasus> ouch
<jmairboeck> that seems to be intended to replace icu 66, but doesn't quite work
<jmairboeck> but at least having icu 70 (or greater) additionally should not harm anything, and ideally with conflicting devel packages
<Begasus> there are also changes to libxml2 in that PR
<jmairboeck> yes, I've seen that
<Begasus> (in regards to icu)
<Begasus> so merging will atleast produce conflicts to that PR
<Begasus> merging libxml2*
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/205abec8c1e9...587cb12da42d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 587cb12 - kdsoap_ws_discovery_client, cleanup, use libVersionCompat (#8293)
<jmairboeck> building opencascade is 50% done :)
<Begasus> can take some time I know :)
<jmairboeck> yes, I've built it a few times now (more often on Windows than on Haiku though ...)
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<jmairboeck> but my work machine is a bit faster than my Haiku VM ;)
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<jmairboeck> should I add an explicit libVersion=$portVersion here too? https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/sci-libs/opencascade/opencascade-7.7.0.recipe#L28 (and rename portVersionCompat)
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<Begasus> think so too jmairboeck , imho $portVersionCompat is something not used for libVersions
<jmairboeck> ok, I'll change that before submitting the PR
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<Begasus> looking at your previous work I'm glad I didn't start there :P
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<PulkoMandy> icu 67 works fine, just needs an update to haiku as well. Newer versions don't work yet
<Begasus> having icu70 shouldn't interfere with Haiku I guess
<Begasus> well, merging yours first will bring conflicts to the one from jmairboeck or visa versa PulkoMandy
<jmairboeck> for texlive_core, libxml2 needs to be built with either icu >= 70 or without icu
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<Begasus> biab
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<trungnt2910[m]> Is there any API that works similar to Haiku's transfer_area on Linux?
<x512[m]> It seems Linux have no global memory mapping IDs.
<x512[m]> Can be implemented with memory FD, mmap and something like wine_server.
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<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "Can be implemented with memory..." <- That's what I'm already doing for `clone_area`.
<trungnt2910[m]> A bunch of files on a tmpfs mount and then hyclone_server.
<trungnt2910[m]> But transfer_area is a different thing as it maps stuff into another process's address space without notifying the target at all.
<trungnt2910[m]> I am this close to getting pkgman working.
<andreasdr> What sorcery are you doing?
<andreasdr> If I may ask :D
<trungnt2910[m]> Just trying to run `pkgman` on HyClone on Linux.
<andreasdr> Nice
<andreasdr> Let me check
<andreasdr> Nice project. Starred!
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<trungnt2910[m]> Thanks!
<trungnt2910[m]> Haiku syscall emulation is quite interesting as the userland seems to be tightly coupled with kernel syscalls, unlike Linux where you can get many distros working at a reasonable level only with a small subset.
<PulkoMandy> yes, we don't have a stable interface to maintain there. Our stable interface is libbe and libroot
<PulkoMandy> syscall numbers may changes, arguments be added/removed, etc in every haiku release
<PulkoMandy> on the oter hand linux has a stable interface at syscall level so they're really carefull to not add too much things to it
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<trungnt2910[m]> The fundamentals of HyClone itself are based on the fact that Haiku does not guarantee stable syscall numbers.
<trungnt2910[m]> If apps starts to use raw inline syscalls instead of calling into `libroot` things will get much harder.
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<andreasdr> x512: Any 3d news? If I may ask?
<andreasdr> Also ARM progress would be interesting to know. But I guess there is no progress currently.
<trungnt2910[m]> If I understand correctly, _kern_transfer_area is a private Haiku API and only internally used by some system apps along with the ports API to efficiently transfer large chunks of memory?
<trungnt2910[m]> Ahh never mind, I was thinking of queueing up the requests and then hook read_port to map all transferred areas if any, but the _address output parameter contains the newly mapped address so I must perform the map right away. I probably have to stick with the ptrace method then.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/587cb12da42d...f16d3104fdc9
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f16d310 - faac, disable static library, cleanup (#8269)
<jmairboeck> Begasus: OpenCascade is done!
<Begasus> just saw it :)
<Begasus> checked on 32bit?
<jmairboeck> no, only 64 bit
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<jmairboeck> but I don't expect any problems, it is just a minor update
<Begasus> k, will do a run here first then
<jmairboeck> okay
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f16d3104fdc9...08488f63cd67
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 08488f6 - libblkmaker, cleanup (#8297)
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<Begasus> build launched
<Begasus> well, unpacking
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<Begas_VM> this could take a while :)
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<zdykstra> how goes, Habbie ?
<Habbie> good!
<Habbie> distracted by non-haiku things these weeks
<Habbie> and you?
<zdykstra> hanging in there. Getting ready for biking season to start, so I'm excited about that.
<Habbie> ohh that's nice
<Habbie> four day weekend just started here, which is good
<zdykstra> very nice.
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<PulkoMandy> If webkit starts using a newer icu, we end up having to ship two versions in the next haiku release for example. That's the kind of things I'd like to avoid
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<Begasus> shouldn't be a problem when setting the correct devel package for ico for a build PulkoMandy ?
<Begasus> s/ico/icu
<Begasus> having them at haikuports shouldn't force Haiku to use any other then requested?
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/08488f63cd67...b50376810c8c
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy b503768 - gloox: update to 1.0.26
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<x512[m]> trungnt2910: I am not sure what is the problem. Linux have no mmap for another process?
<x512[m]> In this case extra special monitor thread can be created for each process that will receive mmap requests from another processes.
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<Begasus> heading down here, g'night peeps!
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<botifico> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/f72acc1bd8d1...37a8239eadc2
<botifico> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 37a8239 - Activity & Contract Report.
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<Skipp_OSX> anybody here on Haiku know how to mount a R1B4 iso?
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<Skipp_OSX> wait that worked ..... hmmm
<Skipp_OSX> diskimage register haiku-any boot.iso then mount in DriveSetup
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<mystified1234> hwy Guys, yet to try Haiku, just curious is it possible to install or compile torbrowser on Haiku, if not is there another browser available that offers the same security that tor browser offers. Thanks. a Newbie
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<zdykstra> No, it's not possible to use or compile torbrowser on Haiku
<_Mystified> So there is nothing similar ?
<_Mystified> btw thanks zdykstra:
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<zdykstra> You can probably mangle something with a tor proxy on another host
<zdykstra> But it'll be an imperfect solution that probably leaks
<_Mystified> that make sense. Still not quite the same. again thank you.
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