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<Viking667>
Sorry about bounciness, trying to tinker with emacs theme.
<Viking667>
By the way, how do I mention a potential recipe change to the sqlite recipe? One of the lead developers has tweaked the prefix for compiling sqlite (and libfossil) under Haiku, and may be considering tweaks to fossil things as well, if he can get it to work well.
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<Viking667>
whoops, sorry about that - I'll catch up with all the text first. Dinner is nearly ready here.
<Begasus[m]>
enjoy :)
<Viking667>
Okay. Upstream on the sqlite project has said they're modifying that codebase and the libfossil codebase to point by default to /boot/home/config/non-packaged
<Viking667>
I'm not sure who (aside from the aforementioned github link) to report that to. I guess I can work it out from here, though I haven't got that gh repo forked, as I wasn't making any packages for Haiku.
<OscarL>
Viking667: that change doesn't affects recipes, as those already specify a --prefix.
<Viking667>
Hm, so I'm seeing
<Begasus[m]>
I guess it would however when build from source in Terminal?
<OscarL>
having (on Haiku) a good default value if --prefix is not specified is good for people building libfossil themselves (ourside the haikuports infrastructure)
<Begasus[m]>
haven't been following all here :)
<Viking667>
Yup, that's what Stephan's put into those two codebases. the fossil repo might take a little more work
<OscarL>
Viking667: after seeing libfossil's timeline... minor nitpick you can share with Stephan (along with thanks for his work, of course!).... the project name is just "Haiku" not HaikuOS, same as fossil is just "fossil" and not "fossil-scm", and "Windows" is not "WindowsOS" :-P
<Viking667>
Begasus[m]: in essence, I've been a go-between for getting Haiku defaults into the codebase for fnc, libfossil and incidentally, sqlite.
<Viking667>
I'm not sure where HaikuOS is mentioned in Stephan's stuff, I haven't seen that yet.
<OscarL>
saw it using that on commit messages only so far... just being a bit preemptive in my nitpicking :-D
<OscarL>
(before the wrong name gets used in documentations/changelogs, etc)
<OscarL>
thanks for upstreaming the changes, btw!
<Viking667>
Ahhh, yes. That's the commit message. I can tweak that from my machine, though it won't change any user-facing code.
<Begasus[m]>
same here, thanks for upstreaming
<Viking667>
's okay.
<Begasus[m]>
second, it's "Haiku" not "HaikuOS" ;)
<Viking667>
We're just both glad someone here decided to take some notice.
<Viking667>
Begasus[m]: Yes, that's what I'm finding
<Begasus[m]>
you could say "the Haiku OS" though ;)
<Viking667>
<shrug>
<Begasus[m]>
some of us are quite finicking(?) on it ;)
<Begasus[m]>
even the guys on KDE staff got it by now :)
<Viking667>
I'll go get that comment prodded
<Begasus[m]>
should finish up on boost 1.87.0 today ...
<Begasus[m]>
ffmpeg7 has an new release also
<OscarL>
Viking667: (re: notice) we have few active contributors in general (both in Haiku and HaikuPorts), so many things can remain unknown until someone brings the issue up.
<Begasus[m]>
help is always welcome :)
<OscarL>
and devs may lack free time, or contributors lack the necessary skills (/me raises hand)
* Begasus[m]
joins and raises hand also
<OscarL>
"so much to do, so little time".... and skills, and so, so, so much trial and error and cursing! I add :-P
<Begasus[m]>
my only contribution to Haiku itself was moving EXR translator out of the sourcetree (well only adding it to HaikuArchives) :D
<Begasus[m]>
someone else removed it after it was moved to HaikuArchives
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL on the HW issue, with all things going on globaly now, I think I'll wait, stuff from China could become cheaper maybe in the EU :P
<OscarL>
hope that turns ups being the case, for you at least. Knowing my country's economic history... things are about to get 100% more expensive :-P
<OscarL>
Thanks Viking667.
<Begasus[m]>
getting an error on the link Viking667
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: I have been having some intermitent issues with that domain (and some others lately) too. Something about ssl certificates it seems.
<Viking667>
huh. figures
<OscarL>
yesterday, for example... I could not access it with Firefox on Win10, but worked fine on Web+ in the Haiku VM :-D
<OscarL>
now it works on FF again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Viking667>
By the way, what was the specific error that you two were getting?
<Viking667>
It might be something we can sort out.
<OscarL>
FF said it couldn't reach the server, later on it warned of potential security threat due to misconfigured certificates, I tried to switch to plain http, but it kept failing anyway. Same machine, but from a VM... worked just fine.
<Viking667>
Huh. Stephan did say he was reconfiguring the althttpd very recently, I'm hoping he got the problems solved.
<OscarL>
Viking667: but again, it was not limited to that domain, so issue was elsewhere.
<OscarL>
or I just got extra lucky, and managed to hit several projects in mid-changes on their https infra :-)
<Viking667>
Do you have a transparent cache between you and "the internet"?
<Viking667>
I found that can cause some issues, especially when asking specifically for some forms of compressed data.
<OscarL>
I'm just usb-tethering from my phone since I lost "permanent" internet access a couple months ago.
<Viking667>
augh
<OscarL>
haven't setup any cache/pihole/etc yet.
<Viking667>
mmmm. I stay completely off mobile data; I'm already shelling out enough for my own fibre, I'm not interested in paying out twice.
<OscarL>
I have to micro-manage what I can and cannot download now, which sucks. But beats not having internet access at all.
<Viking667>
mmm hmm. I don't envy being in your position. I "only" have "first world" problems…
<OscarL>
:-)
<Begasus[m]>
biab
<Viking667>
biab: Built In A Banana-republic
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<Begasus[m]>
;) that's a new one :)
<Viking667>
cya: can't you abbreviate? ;-)
<Begasus[m]>
guess I'm used to the old way :P
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<Begasus[m]>
psssttt
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<Viking667>
hmm?
<Viking667>
sorry, was catching up on recent fossil forum posts.
<gordonjcp>
Viking667: morning
<gordonjcp>
Viking667: your A3000 would have had 1MB of RAM as standard ;-)
<gordonjcp>
you could actually get a bodge board for a while to let you stick in a 4MB 72-pin SIMM
<Viking667>
hm, so it would have had.
<gordonjcp>
(I recently used a scrap 4*GB* DIMM to scrape ice off my windscreen)
<gordonjcp>
my mate had an A305 upgraded to 1MB, it was the shit
<gordonjcp>
so fast
<Viking667>
I remember it being nicer to use than the A600 my friend wanted to use for a print job. The A3000 formatted the printed output far nicer.
<gordonjcp>
it's a shame Nat Semi biffed the 32016
<gordonjcp>
the world would have been very different if they'd got that working before the 68000 took off
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<OscarL>
mmm had to disable some crappy AI stuff on latest firefox. Sigh.
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* Viking667
heads off again. thanks for the help in the past two or three days.
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<kallisti5[m]>
We probably should upgrade our matrix room at some point.
<kallisti5[m]>
we're on version 6.. latest is 11
<kallisti5[m]>
The impact is everyone gets kicked and invited to a new room with the same topic, name, etc
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<Begasus[m]>
give a yell upfront :)
<kallisti5[m]>
yeah.. though maybe we can wait a bit. The new version 11 has better redaction support incase we start getting the gore / shock spam that's going around
<Begasus[m]>
so far only 1 that I stepped out when it hit that room
<kallisti5[m]>
i'm tempted to follow PulkoMandy's lead and just go back to XMPP for myself lol
<Begasus[m]>
that was some nasty sh*t of pictures :(
<kallisti5[m]>
yeah.. it's especially annoying since they mention ever user in the room for them. Then I get a fun notification on my phone
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<Begasus[m]>
if it was only for Haiku's channel, Vision is enough, but I got a few other rooms already set in the list to join (and follow actif), so XMMP isn't an option for me I think
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<Begasus[m]>
XMPP* :)
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<Begasus[m]>
OK, Krita for Qt6 up and running with Qt 6.8.3 :)
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<neoncortex>
noob question but- there is this program, cutemarked, I installed it, but apparently I can only open one instance. There is a way to open multiple instances of it?