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<B2IA> (Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57828] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ba0223da5d79+%5E1feff0c0378a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6326cd515959 - launch_daemon: Remove setting of LC_TYPE.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ba0223da5d79 - Haiku Book: Fix typo in launch_daemon documentation.
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<bbjimmy> yay! my main computer is running again!
<bbjimmy> the power brick died and it took over a week to get a replacement.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57829] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a6fd32788445+%5Eba0223da5d79
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 10563a5fb2e9 - pthread: Reorder the extension functions and make them non-weak.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a6fd32788445 - pthread: Account for more errors than B_BAD_THREAD_ID in pthread_getname_np.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57830] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fc1a0ea5ab35+%5Ea6fd32788445
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fc1a0ea5ab35 - SetupEnvironment: Remove first set of LC_CTYPE.
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<Boosted> hello
<augiedoggie> woof
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<SLema> Hello
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<augiedoggie> hm, that pthread change broke ruby :/
<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: that seems to have broken a number of apps for me ^
<waddlesplash> ...?
<augiedoggie> getting unresolved symbol errors for pthread_setname_np
<waddlesplash> really, that name?
<augiedoggie> yes
<waddlesplash> not the one with __?
<augiedoggie> nope
<waddlesplash> can weak symbols not be replaced by non-weak symbols?
<waddlesplash> I thought they coul
<waddlesplash> could
<waddlesplash> ohh
<waddlesplash> it needs the extern "C"
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57831] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bc28372cecaa+%5Efc1a0ea5ab35
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] bc28372cecaa - pthread: Apply extern "C" to getname/setname.
<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: thanks for reporting, that should fix it
<augiedoggie> nice, thanks
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<botifico> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/abeb13a4bda8...ffb877af5ebf
<botifico> [haiku/website] waddlesplash ffb877a - Activity Report, June.
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
<andreasdr[m]> Need to check my Haiku PC too.
<andreasdr[m]> Maybe some power supply issue or whatever.
<andreasdr[m]> Last time I tried to turn it on, it just did not turn on :(
<andreasdr[m]> Wooohooo. I read about BETA 5 might come along in 1 month +-
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<botifico> [haikuporter] Begasus created 1.2.9 | 1.2.9 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/releases/tag/untagged-5bda7c3212bc64690c75
<Begasus> k, comments welcome for the draft release on updated haikuporter
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] Begasus tagged 49f29cb as 1.2.9 https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/commit/49f29cbff2f73d267e2ce52c3347895294ff0b58
<botifico> [haikuporter] Begasus released 1.2.9 | 1.2.9 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/releases/tag/1.2.9
<botifico> [haikuporter] Begasus published 1.2.9 | 1.2.9 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/releases/tag/1.2.9
<botifico> [haikuporter] Begasus created tag 1.2.9 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d66d849cff00...4339c13a3ff6
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4339c13 - haikuporter, bump version (#10705)
<Begasus> this has been waiting for too long
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi Begasus.
<Begasus> Arrr andreasdr[m]!
<Begasus> k, let's put some deps in the 6.4.0 recipes for kde ...
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<Begasus> kirigami_addons is getting it's own library :) libKirigamiAddonsStatefulApp
<Begasus> fwiw, breeze_icons also does :)
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<e_> hi im having an issue witch haiku on qemu/virt manager, it boots but as soon as the gui loads virt manager crashes, when i restart it the vm is still running but crashes as soon as i try to open it but if i pause the vm then open it, it shows the gui but crashes as soon as i unpause it
<e_> my linux and bsd vms work fine
<e_> error in libvirt log is: qemu-system-x86_64: warning: Spice: Connection reset by peer
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<x512[m]> e_: Is Haiku host or guest? Where virt manager is running?
<Begasus> no idea, still works here with the script I have
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<FreeFull> I've had problems with qemu 9.0 and virgl, it seems in general qemu 9 is a bit buggy
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<e_> its a haiku guest on linux host
<e_> using virt manager 4.1.0, qemu 9.0.1, haikur1beta4 iso
<e_> setting cpu config to core2duo did not help
<FreeFull> e_: Which graphics do you have set for it?
<FreeFull> If it's virtio, try switching to qxl
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* Begasus did a stupid mistake (first one today though) ! :D
* phschafft provides Begasus some eraser
<Begasus> thanks phschafft, goes better with a cookie though ;)
<phschafft> oh?
<Begasus> smoothens the ego :D
<phschafft> hm.
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<Begasus> Hi OscarL!
<OscarL> Hey there Begasus!
<OscarL> Guess which package I just built?
<Begasus> numpy?
<zard> luarocks?
<Begasus> scipy?
<OscarL> scipy_python310-1.6.3-5-x86_64.hpkg and noteshrink-0.1.1-2-any.hpkg :-D
<Begasus> whohoo!
<Begasus> so you tricked it to use our current numpy?
<OscarL> yeah, it warns about mismatching version upon "import scipy", but seems functional enough for noteshrink at least.
<OscarL> I was able to re-create noteshrink's examples with it.
<Begasus> thanks there!
<Begasus> not having to deal with numpy is a big plus :D
<OscarL> indeed! at least we can wait a bit longer for updaging both scipy and numpy.
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<OscarL> https://github.com/OscarL/haikuports/tree/scipy-cleanups <<< still need to triple check some requirements and stuff, but should be good enough to test-build.
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<OscarL> Needs a machine with more than 2G of RAM to build. (tested it with 8 GB, but I think 4 GB should be more than enough)
<Begasus> lol
<Begasus> that's as bad as checking out those sci-* recipes :P
<OscarL> build took about 27 minutes on my old Phenom II X4. Shouldn't be too hard on more modern CPUs. Only parts of the build use more than one core :-(
<Begasus> +70 frameworks updated (almost done) :)
<OscarL> way to go!
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<Begasus> probably need a reboot to clear some things up before I tackle scipy :)
<OscarL> prepare to see lots of warnings about "-Wno-multichar" not being valid for fortran (https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/9740)
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<Begasus> 137 packages ... done :D
<Begasus> can't you silense them?
<Begasus> grabbing qqc2_desktop_style6-6.4.0-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/qqc2_desktop_style6-6.4.0-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus> that was the last one :)
<OscarL> Begasus: re: fortran warnings... not without changing the GCC packages, and you don't want me messing with that :-D
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> granted there :D
<OscarL> Problem seems to be that "HAIKU_CC1_SPEC" is used for gfortran, not only for cc1 and cc1plus, as comments on here suggest: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/sys-devel/gcc/patches/gcc-13.3.0_2023_08_10.patchset#L5255
<OscarL> but that's as far as I go.
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<Begasus> lot's of other warning
<Begasus> like "-Wsign-compare", they clobber the output more then the one for fortran :P
<OscarL> yeah. it complains A LOT :-)
<Begasus> done
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<Begasus> OscarL, why does the scipy_python310 package require an empty base package?
<Begasus> not bad :)
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<OscarL> even the original did, base has requirement that are not dependent on python-version.
<OscarL> and requiring the base package on the _python3x is a way to pull those in.
<OscarL> I though of changing that to list everything on the _python3x, but was more concerned on making it build :-)
<Begasus> fair enough :)
<Begasus> converted a screenshot to pdf, not that bad +1
<Begasus> does scipy need a revbump also (before noteshrink)?
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<OscarL> the commit I pushed for scipy has a rev-bump.
<OscarL> Will keep noteshrink as draft until that revision is available on the buildmasters (as noteshrink is "any", and needs scipy to provide a non _x86 package name too).
<Begasus> ok, for me it's a green light on 64bit :)
<OscarL> great, thanks :-)
<OscarL> will try to double check actual required libs before opening the scipy PR.
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> This should do it: "for l in $(find /system/lib/python3.10/vendor-packages/scipy -name *.so); do readelf -d $l | grep NEEDED; done | sort -u"
<phschafft> find /system/lib/python3.10/vendor-packages/scipy -name \*.so -print0 | xargs readelf -d | grep NEEDED | sort -u
<phschafft> at least get the grep out of the loop ;)
<OscarL> I'm a cavemen. Thanks phschafft :-)
<phschafft> also escape all * and ? and similar as needed. otherwise one day you really shoot your foot. don't want to teach, just want to keep you safe.
<Begasus> one of our dogs (makes nice background, though a bit over the top) :) https://0x0.st/X9KJ.png
<OscarL> phschafft: mmm, faster, but doesn't gives the same output.
<OscarL> xargs warns about NUL or somesuch :-D
<phschafft> oh, xargs -0 ...
<phschafft> sorry about that.
<zard> Begasus: nice!
<OscarL> no problem at all! thanks for the tip!
<OscarL> Begasus: activitymonitor's colors match the pallete :-)
<OscarL> (cpu graph at least)
<Begasus> lol yeah :D
<Begasus> so now the circkle is round (her name being "Ring of Fire" :-)
<Begasus> thanks zard, getting progress also I see :) +1
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<akash> Hey, how to run the code in the book "Learning of Program with haiku" on Linux mint ? I can't find the header files in my system, where can I download it ?
<phschafft> hu?
<zard> Which header files are you talking about?
<zard> View.h, Window.h, Application.h, etc. are only available on Haiku
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<akash> Ok. can copy pasting on Linux works ?
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<zard> No. Well, I guess there are some experimental projects which may make it work on Linux, but really, you'll want to get Haiku in a virtual machine to program for it
<zard> You know that that series of tutorials is meant to teach you how to write programs for Haiku, not Linux, right?
<OscarL> akash: just in case, and to avoid possible confusion... Haiku is not a Linux variant.
<Habbie> please send single line messages
<Habbie> otherwise we have to open a url for what you say
<Habbie> also, you shouldn't need wireless networks in your haiku vm, as your linux host already has networking
<OscarL> virtio-net works nicely.
<akash> Sorry for this link, first time using irc
<zard> np :-)
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<OscarL> welcome then! we don't bite, even if we bark :-P
<Habbie> any barking you hear is just Begasus' dogs
<zard> Yes, having Haiku on a partition isn't enough. But Haiku should be able to connect to the internet from a virtual machine.
<zdykstra> morning all
<OscarL> hey there zdykstra!
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<OscarL> Begasus: seems I even tried building scipy with Python 3.8 at some point (I have a "issue in 3.8.txt" file)...
<OscarL> from a jun last year. Same issue issue we got for numpy the other day, lol!
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<OscarL> man, I'm slow.
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<Begasus> Habbie, our dogs don't bark :P
<Habbie> so they bite? :)
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<OscarL_32> if file I/O was as snappy as the GUI on bare metal... would be sweeet!
<Begasus> not that also Habbie, just waggle their tail :D
<Habbie> nice
<OscarL_32> My family had a dog that kept bruising our legs with its damn tail. Thing hit harder than a stick :-)
<Begasus> heh
* OscarL_32 starts a buid of scipy_x86. *crosses fingers*
<OscarL_32> darn... forgot that I need the fixed up python :-(
<OscarL_32> Wish I could edit the locale formating data. Medium lengh date is wrong, and the lack of leading zeros on dd/mm/yyyy is ugly (and makes "Modified" Tracker column harder to parse at a glance).
<waddlesplash> does Locale preferences not allow adjusting this?
<OscarL_32> I only seem to be able to select bewteen different "formating" sets (say... Spanish Argentina, vs Spanish Uruguay, etc), but not modify the format of individual settings.
<OscarL_32> not too happy with the default formating for Argentina, and no idea how difficult would be to get those changed upstream (ICU-data, I guess).
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<Begasus> out for a while, l8r peeps
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<OscarL_32> Wee! nice to see the "Fundraising Piggie" filling up on Haiku's homepage. Thanks to those able to help monetarily!
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<OscarL_32> Will definitively try using x512[m]'s LC_ALL trick on my next builds :-) -- https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18947
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<waddlesplash> OscarL_32: it's already set by HaikuPorter
<waddlesplash> so there's that at least
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<OscarL_32> ah, good to know. thanks.
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<OscarL_32> python3.10.14 build went fine on 32 bits at least. *crosses fingers one more time for the scipy build*
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<OscarL_32> that LC_TYPE thing was bugging me some months ago :-D https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/haiku/search?q=LC_TYPE
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57832] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4169a972eea2+%5Ebc28372cecaa
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4169a972eea2 - POSIX: move getentropy(2) from libbsd
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<OscarL_32> scipy-1.6.3 build on 32 bits seems to deadlock (by comparing .log sizes, roughly at 70% completion). :-(
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57833] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=85fb1089dec6+%5E4169a972eea2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 85fb1089dec6 - libroot: Use getentropy to initialize the stack protector.
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<Begasus> closing down here
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57834] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9aaf80afaaf1+%5E85fb1089dec6
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9aaf80afaaf1 - FAT: Use user_strlcpy in dosfs_read_attr.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57835] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=69b420563bbc+%5E9aaf80afaaf1
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7f86e9ee17b0 - kernel: Properly report that no events were selected in select_fd.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 69b420563bbc - kernel/thread: Remove duplicate declaration of _user_rename_thread.
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<phschafft> waddlesplash++
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57836] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9a4c54393497+%5E69b420563bbc
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9a4c54393497 - pthread: Implement pthread_timedjoin_np.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57837] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=72b440df7d84+%5E9a4c54393497
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 72b440df7d84 - kernel/events: Fix wait_for_objects.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 6 commits to master [hrev57838] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e21aac37e7a9+%5E72b440df7d84
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6c4e414fe6d5 - strace: Move TypeHandler for iovec back to NetworkTypes.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0fbd5c96af3a - strace: vsnprintf returns total possible characters, not number written.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ef62eb611772 - strace: Only print the first 8 iovecs.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 96fb9405712b - strace: Move poll/select syscall handling to an "event" file.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9e7e1615994d - strace: Add tracing for wait_for_objects and event_queue syscalls.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e21aac37e7a9 - strace: wait_for_thread status argument is an Out parameter.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57839] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e763eb55eef9+%5Ee21aac37e7a9
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e763eb55eef9 - kernel/events: Check sync->set for B_EVENT_INVALID.
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