robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
<bankbank>
jenneron do you think the peach pi 13inch 4gb/16gb exynos chromebook is easy to get linux running on?
<jenneron[m]>
pmOS yes
<bankbank>
oh dang is this like a distro for phones
<bankbank>
will i be at a big disadvantage running 32bit arm linux or does it not really make a big difference?
<bankbank>
I'm fine with arm7/32bit/old computers.. my primary laptop is a celeron n3060 with 4gb ram and 32gb emmc XD
<alpernebbi>
aside from pmOS, I think generally, it's kind of a balance between being old enough that people have fixed major issues on it and being new enough to be still relevant
<jenneron[m]>
there are also hexdump's debian/ubuntu images if it's okay for you to not have headphones and GPU working
<bankbank>
jenneron: what're the disadvantages of no GPU? everything's rendered in software is still OK performance? I don't care about playing 3d games
<jenneron[m]>
but there may be GPU issues on pmOS too, I don't have peach-pi to test it properly
<bankbank>
what's your experience been using it? is it daily driver worthy?
<jenneron[m]>
it depends
<jenneron[m]>
it is not the same as peach-pi, 11.6 vs 13.3 and a bit newer SoC with about the same performance
<jenneron[m]>
GPU works for me on peach-pit, but someone reported it being problematic on peach-pi
<jenneron[m]>
it also depends on the price you can get it for
<jenneron[m]>
I wouldn't be getting peach-pit for more than 35$
<bankbank>
does peach-pit have like a faux-leather case on the screen outer area? I think I saw something like that for one of these two and it looks like it might get nasty after ten years of existence
<jenneron[m]>
yeah they are usually in bad condition
<bankbank>
so what would you say are one or two optimal devices to look for in the $75-$200 range ? acer r13?
<bankbank>
a device that has good support, wifi and gpu works, that sort of thing
<bankbank>
but isn't the x13s $1000 msrp type of device
<jenneron[m]>
i should probably add more devices to wiki
<DocGalaxyBlock[m]>
ok then you joined probably after I posted that file here...
<steev>
in general... the matrix handling of irc is kinda wack.
<bankbank>
jenneron: so if I could snag that hp fortis "qualcomm 7180" for around $50, would it be worth it? or unknown quantity that may not work out well?
<jenneron[m]>
bankbank: i don't know anyone who tested it, but there are dts files in linux tree and pmOS image makes use of them
<jenneron[m]>
it should be fine, but i can't promise
<bankbank>
I seem to have found Lenovo 10e Chromebook Tablet but it's not MT8183, it's "sc7180"
<bankbank>
4gb/64gb
<jenneron[m]>
it is either mt8183 or not 10e
<Jasper[m]>
10w is possible, that's 7c gen 2
<jenneron[m]>
that hp with 7c (7180) for 50 sounds really good
<Jasper[m]>
Jasper[m]: also windows
<bankbank>
ah ok maybe the listing is incorrect
<bankbank>
" Excellent HP Chromebook x2 11 2-in-1 is dragged down by its terrible detachable keyboard" but a person could just use any USB keyboard, right?
<bankbank>
so um.. if I end up getting this hp fortis 11... what are the steps I need to take to install linux?
<Jasper[m]>
Compile the kernel and boot it using grub
<Jasper[m]>
Then check how well it works
<Jasper[m]>
This can be somewhat simplified using pmos, but it should be possible with any distro that has new enough packages to facilitate mesa basically
<Jasper[m]>
Oh also, I think you need to enable developer mode to get rid of chromeos
<jenneron[m]>
Jasper: you can run alpine linux or something in termux, and run flashrom from there
<jenneron[m]>
i guess
<Jasper[m]>
Cause of the missing dep?
<Jasper[m]>
Oh wait, what I said about downstream
<jenneron[m]>
gbb way doesn't require crossystem
<jenneron[m]>
but it requires SPI flash available
<Jasper[m]>
Yeah I understand
<jenneron[m]>
suzyq may be safer though
<jenneron[m]>
also i'm wondering if android has crossystem pre-installed
<jenneron[m]>
if yes i would stop using --no-cgpt
<Jasper[m]>
I need to add modules-initfs aswell
<robclark>
Jasper[m]: the 7c gen1 and gen2 chromebooks all have pretty fully functional support upstream (ie. everything but mipi camera on the tablets)
<Jasper[m]>
<robclark> "Jasper: the 7c gen1 and gen2..." <- Upstream support for chromebooks wasn't always this good right?
<robclark>
Jasper[m]: for the qc ones it has always been good, upstream kernel support before first devices shipped.. mtk has been lagging more
<Jasper[m]>
robclark: Hahaha yeah, and the last tegra croa device submitted didn't ship with ChromeOS in the end. Okay good to know!
<robclark>
I think there was some tegra thing that shipped with CrOS.. but that was before my time..
<jenneron[m]>
yeah, we have 2 tegra k1 laptops supported in pmOS
<jenneron[m]>
there is also a tegra k1 chromebox not supported in upstream, unfortunately none of us has one
<Jasper[m]>
jenneron[m]: Which is it? I'd love to take a look
<Jasper[m]>
Ah acer chromebase
<jenneron[m]>
yeah I probably misremembered it
<jenneron[m]>
Jasper[m]: it would be good to give some attention to laptops too
<agl7-x13s-eos>
clover[m]: Hello, I have read at 3:33 am (9:33 pm in USA) that you hae released the new archiso-x13s. I will see if I have time at the weekend if I can install EndeavourOS on my x13s!
<clover[m]>
let us know how it goes
<_[m]1>
I've set my mind on btrfs with /boot encrypted with luks2, anyone had success with this and which approach? I'm thinking to go with the grub improved argon2
<Jasper[m]>
I did a pisspoor job at trying to solder a SuzyQable, but everything as far as measurements goes seems to check out. Any idea why plugging it into the pixel c gives no output?
<Jasper[m]>
Seems like I may have swapped d- and d+ because the video had it wrong hahaha
<_[m]1>
@clover is it possible the new iso doesn't work with your pgp key on pgp.mit.edu?
<clover[m]>
it should work
<Jasper[m]>
<Jasper[m]> "Seems like I may have swapped d-..." <- Swapped it, didn't work
<Jasper[m]>
_[m]1: Be sure to sync time, that's the problem I ran into
<clover[m]>
sometimes the network drops, just keep trying. and yeah sync tme
<clover[m]>
s/tme/time/
<_[m]1>
ok I thought I did, and I ran this ironrobin script
<_[m]1>
* ironrobin script to not have to type the key right, but it only failed on pacstra, needed a Y
<_[m]1>
ok yeah they should already be there mm
<_[m]1>
now failing to retrieve mesa from github, operation too slow
<clover[m]>
are you on pacstrap step?
<_[m]1>
yeah
<_[m]1>
I ran pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring now
<clover[m]>
just try it again
<clover[m]>
ok
<_[m]1>
same error, failed retrieving mesa from github.com - operation too slow
<Jasper[m]>
_[m]1: Are you connecting over wifi?
<Jasper[m]>
If yes, try usb tethering
<_[m]1>
maybe with -y
<_[m]1>
yeah
<_[m]1>
but I can download packages
<steev>
konradybcio: i'll check it out
<_[m]1>
signature is unknown trust
<clover[m]>
you probably didn't get the key then
<clover[m]>
the manual steps to import my key
<clover[m]>
sometimes the keyservers are down and you just have to wait, it sucks
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<_[m]1>
myeah, thought the web frontend is up and could curl đ¤ˇ
<_[m]1>
it siad the key was in db too dunno
<clover[m]>
try the --recv-key step manually
<clover[m]>
i mean the --lsign-key
<_[m]1>
waiting it is đ
<_[m]1>
yeah you're prolly right it's down
<_[m]1>
oh my, it's just the signing?
<_[m]1>
now it's extra.db too slow, and I'm usb tethering
<_[m]1>
it passed, magic đ
<clover[m]>
cool
<clover[m]>
i was going to say maybe change the mirror you are using
<_[m]1>
yay (pun)
<_[m]1>
i read that =
<clover[m]>
good luck in the chroot
<_[m]1>
* i read that's a regular occurence
<_[m]1>
pretty excited about that improved grub đ