marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/ | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<bluetail> hello. Is xrandr by now usable and does Display hotswap / reattach work now?
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<tpw_rules> no
<TestJack> Has anyone tried GNOME on this? I just installed on my 14" MacBook Pro.
<bluetail> tpw_rules: thats a bit sad. But VNC should work, right?
<bluetail> hold on
<bluetail> I just want to use the mac mini m1 for development but over remote, if that makes sense. Just in case I cannot make Linux run the games I want so I boot into Windows and then run linux through remote. Otherwise - I could of course use a VM, but cough cough.
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<marcan> you can run xorg headless for VNC, then it doesn't matter what your hardware is
<nicolas17> icymi macOS 12.4 RC was released yesterday, so final release is likely next week
<nicolas17> did anyone test if the firmware on the betas is still compatible with asahi?
<nicolas17> or should we get ready for "I can't boot linux after upgrading macOS" reports? >.>
<chadmed> no
<chadmed> their asahi installs will stay on 12.3.1 or whatever it is
<nicolas17> chadmed: ohhhh right, since it uses separate firmware fetched from the ipsw, I forgot that
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<Cy8aer[m]> <TestJack> "Has anyone tried GNOME on this..." <- Yep, Gnome 42 works fine for weeks now.
<mps> odyssey28[m]: yes, I forgot to tell that speakers are not enabled by default. one have to enable them in DTS and rebuild DTBs and add them to u-boot
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<cmalvi[m]> There is any Asahi avaiable logo for gdm?
<j`ey> you can find the logos here if there's an easy way to set it https://github.com/AsahiLinux/artwork/tree/main/logos
<cmalvi[m]> j`ey: yes there is gdm settings to set it's a gtk app to custom gdm screen
<cmalvi[m]> thanks
<cmalvi[m]> need to reduce it, it's too big 😂
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<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: there's a bunch of different sizes in those png_* folders
<cmalvi[m]> oh cool!
<cmalvi[m]> the asahi logo coloured without text with size 64 seems good
<cmalvi[m]> i've noticed bugged theme behaviour on gnome 42 os, and this not happen on same customization on another machine. anyone knows where i need to modify to change the osd theming?
<cmalvi[m]> s/os/osd/
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<povik> re: are speakers in stall now. i have been focusing on redoing some things in a way requested by upstream
<povik> it involved learning another part of ASoC i have been happily ignorant of (DPCM), so it's been slow at first
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<j`ey> DPCM == ?
<povik> just some part of ASoC for all you need to know :D
<j`ey> ASoC == ?
<j`ey> :P
<povik> ah, ALSA on System on Chips
<povik> i.e. our case
<j`ey> ALSA == ? :P
<povik> audio audio something
<j`ey> acryonyms forever!
<povik> all the way down
<mps> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
<mps> not sure for last word
<povik> Advanced Linux Sound ALSA
<mps> TLA ;)
<chadmed_> povik: is this mechanism limited to switching? what benefit does it bring us/why do upstream want it
<chadmed_> seems like it's not quite what we're after to me
<mps> anyone have url of this?
<mps> chadmed_: I mean povik's mail patch upstream discussion
<mps> but anyway I should find time and (re)read again ALSA in kernel
<povik> chadmed_: it's because we drive two physical I2S ports on the SoC's periphery as if they were a single port
<mps> chadmed_: thanks
<povik> the speakers are split across two I2S ports on some machines, but we want to consider them as being on a single bus
<povik> i wanted to wrangle it into ASoC, not considering DPCM, but the maintainer pointed me to DPCM as the way to go to model such arrangement in ASoC
<povik> as a sideeffect this will allow us to do the jack/speakers runtime switching at kernel level i said earlier we wont have
<povik> mps: ^^
<mps> povik: yes, I remember I mentioned this to you some time ago here
<mps> that is how it should be implemented if possible, ofc
<povik> well it still won't do us any good on larger speaker arrays, there the switching needs to happen in userspace because of different filters
<povik> even on macbook air with 2 speakers, if we apply filters
<mps> hmm, sounds complicated then
<povik> yes.
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<mps> iiuc for different speakers 'we' need different filters?
<povik> yes
<mps> ah, more complicated than I thought
<povik> at least on mac mini all can be simple!
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<mps> povik: anyway, your work on this is awesome. I can switch between speakers and headphone with .asoundrc
<povik> happy it works for you already
<mps> little cumbersome but hey, good enough
<chadmed_> mps: yeah different filters are required for different machines, and currently the only way to manage that properly is in userspace (and even then its super super ugly)
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<chadmed_> we also want to make sure those filters are not applied to the headphone jack, which means it cant be done in the machine driver even if there were a mechanism for that
<povik> no, it could be done in the machine driver if kernel accepted it
<povik> machine driver can differentiate speakers/jack, that's pretty much its job
<povik> the rest happens in the platform driver, which shouldn't know speakers/jack
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<chadmed_> oh right
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<cmalvi[m]> Anyone have suggestion to fix this gnome problem? i have it only on asahi
<cmalvi[m]> on my other machine works well
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<chadmed_> might be something to do with software rendering. ive had a couple of graphical glitches that i can sometimes repro on my rpi4
<chadmed_> (when using llvmpipe)
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<pumpkinpiequan[m]> has there been an official release of Asahi after the Alpha?
<j`ey> no
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> :/
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> any update/fixes in the alpha since?
<j`ey> nothing in the kernel. it was rebased, but not pushed as a package afaik (but it had no new asahi specific features)
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> so no gpu support and such?
<j`ey> correct
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> :(
<j`ey> that's being worked on
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> I would help if i could, but I'm a java dev
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> and have no intrest in learning
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> I do know shell and python
<Sobek[m]> Are you aware most of m1n1 is written in python ?
<Sobek[m]> (Well, not the m1n1 that boot Asahi Linux, but the hypervisor logic that is used for reverse engineering)
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> that's the repo that's being changed everyday, right?
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> almost
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> well, frequently
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> m1n1
<j`ey> Shell 0.0%
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> they're working on GPU
<pumpkinpiequan[m]> i see
<j`ey> yes alyssa is working on the userspace side and lina is working on the kernel side
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<cmalvi[m]> <chadmed_> "might be something to do with..." <- Oh thanks for the info
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<vimsos[m]> just saw marcan in the podcast he is so handsome
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