<dan[m]1234>
Any updates on USB C ports on the mac mini?
<tpw_rules>
iirc they work fine?
<tpw_rules>
well as usb 2.0 and nothing else
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<odyssey28[m]>
this is unusable even without considering gpu support
<odyssey28[m]>
no speakers
<odyssey28[m]>
no brightness adjustment either
<hello9999901[m]>
Keep in mind this is an alpha
<hello9999901[m]>
And the scope of this project
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<odyssey28[m]>
I thought there's no video codec acceleration?
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<odyssey28[m]>
no 120hz support either :(
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<hello9999901[m]>
You need to keep in mind this is a large and difficult project, and noting the lack of features (that have been already established) doesn’t help. Thank you for understanding. Perhaps you can help by contributing code/testing or reporting bugs?
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<tpw_rules>
you don't even need video codec acceleration lol
<tpw_rules>
the cpu is fast enough 4k plays fine
<weapon_of_nix[m]>
it does get quite hot though, but yes it does work fine without it
<odyssey28[m]>
my cheap old windows laptop can't even play 4k 60 with acceleration
<dan[m]1234>
tpw_rules: Yea I meant at better than USB 2, using an external hard drive through USB 2 is painful lol
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<hpux735[m]>
s/in/for/
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<mps>
speakers works
<sven>
dan[m]1234: there's a WIP branch with usb3 support on the type-c ports but that still needs work
<sven>
i'll probably only be able to upstream it together with thunderbolt because everything's a tangled mess there
<mps>
I have strange 'issue' with xorg on one mbp (j293), one or two lines on top of screen are displayed like they are drawn out of display area
<mps>
i.e. they are invisible
<mps>
on previous this didn't happened
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<_jannau_>
dan[m]1234: 120Hz for the mbp 14/16 will come with the dcp driver and probably for the hdmi output if HDMI 2.0 has enough bandwidth for 120Hz at the resolution
<_jannau_>
sven: what about usb 2.0 support upstream? Shall we push for the sent reset patch or do you want to wait?
<sven>
no, that's unfortunately also tangled with the tbt mess :/
<sven>
i think it's still correct but i'd like to be sure
<sven>
my current tbt wip stuff e.g. serrors when booting with any usb cable connected
<sven>
i don't think it's related to that reset patch but i'm not sure yet
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<mps>
yesterday I installed 'asahi' on another mbp I've got. installed m1n1 and u-boot using installer and selecting uefi + u-boot, then booted from usb and created two small partitions of 20GB, one for rootFS and one for home
<mps>
after that installed alpine over net, everything worked out of the box. very pleased with current status
<mps>
needs about 15 minutes
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<cmalvi[m]>
<sven> "Dan: there's a WIP branch with..." <- does hdmi work with this?
<sven>
that branch is meant for developers fwiw
<_jannau_>
cmalvi[m]: hdmi on which device? on the mbp 14/16 hdmi needs a dcp driver and usb-c dp alt mode
<cmalvi[m]>
sven: i know, i've asked only for curiosity
<cmalvi[m]>
_jannau_: macbook air
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<_jannau_>
how do you connect hdmi to the macbook air? for dp alt mode based converters it's mostly the same
<_jannau_>
displaylink based devices just need usb 2 or 3
<sven>
dp alt mode is only partly brought up with the atcphy code so far. it also needs some additional "dpphy" pokes and apparently there's also some dp-crossbar that must be configured
<cmalvi[m]>
<_jannau_> "how do you connect hdmi to the..." <- with an usb dongle
<cmalvi[m]>
<sven> "dp alt mode is only partly..." <- ok thank you
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<cmalvi[m]>
can i customize the keyboard layout? i've notice mine isn't properly correct even with correct language layout (italian machintosh)
<_jannau_>
cmalvi[m]: what's wrong? '~' and '§'?
<cmalvi[m]>
_jannau_: no, "<" and "\"
<cmalvi[m]>
they are swapped
<cmalvi[m]>
also i'm trying to figure out if is possible to swap option and command like a "windows" keyboard due to my muscle memory with shortcut
<cmalvi[m]>
> <@_oftc__jannau_:matrix.org> cmalvi: what's wrong? '~' and '§'?
<Serentty[m]>
<m1n1m4[m]> "hello, is it possible to use usb..." <- I have not tried, but I do know that at the moment you would be limited to USB 2.0 speeds. So that would be 480 Mbps theoretically, and in reality lower. That might be good enough if your internet speed is not higher than like 300, and if you don’t need faster communication in your LAN.
<mps>
usb wifi and ethernet works fine, that is how I used asahi first two months
<m1n1m4[m]>
<Serentty[m]> "I have not tried, but I do..." <- enough for me that speed, thanks
<m1n1m4[m]>
<mps> "usb wifi and ethernet works fine..." <- thanks, also for me with ethernet and it is OK but tethering over usb 3.1 could not find the right instructions. Followed arch guide ( witch worked for the previous cases wifi/eth ) not working in this case: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mobile_broadband_modem#Mode_switching
<m1n1m4[m]>
installed usb_modeswitch and could not find the cfg files stated there
<citizen1[m]>
i heard Asahi has been doing great progress. I am here to cheer the developers and give encouragement. Thank you for your services and fighting for FOSS
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<mps>
m1n1m4[m]: you are using alpine?
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<m1n1m4[m]>
<mps> "m1n1m4!: you are using alpine?" <- yes
<m1n1m4[m]>
m1n1m4[m]: maybe we go on the off topic window
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<mps>
m1n1m4[m]: there is #asahi-alt for alternative distros
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<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
How’s the battery life been for any of you running Arch with Gnome 42? Compared to latest MacOS? On a 2021 MBP 14”. Rough idea so I know if I should wait (battery drain was an issue with my last Dell machine - ended up getting a Mac like I should have).
<tpw_rules>
from what i hear it's measurably worse but still really good. plus it's easy to remove if you don't like it
<tpw_rules>
if you already own a mac there's no reason not to try
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<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
To be fair, I bought the Mac for the hardware, not so much for the OS. lol
<tpw_rules>
then why are you asking if you should try a different os
<j`ey>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: also there's no GPU or video acceleration, which means power consumption is higher
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
Because I eventually will dual boot the two. I just don’t want to boot in and then remove it so soon since at the end of the day I want my battery to last. The less I mess with the Mac from stock configuration the less of a chance it’ll screw up the Mac side at some point. I had plenty of hell trying to make my Dell XPS work okay with at least three distros and it was way too frustrating.
<tpw_rules>
it's super easy with asahi
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
I just want to wait until the battery life is more tame, especially GPU acceleration (hopefully for gaming at some point as a bonus).
<j`ey>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: how long do you need it to last for?
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
I bought it for personal productivity… just trying to get the most out of my purchase.
<mps>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: I use conservative cpu policy and practically don't notice lagging in speed and with this battery life is about 10-12 hours
<mps>
ofc, if I run cpu intensive tasks it is not so long
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<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
<mps> "Anthony Glyadchenko: I use..." <- Ah. For context, I think I’m looking for something to play around with and been trying to buy a Steam Deck since I’m starting a new job next Monday (waiting a few weeks is better than waiting a year in a queue) and need something for quick work breaks since my Switch is getting outdated. My flaw is that I tend to overtinker including with messing around with something like my recently
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
bought Mac in the meantime. It isn’t as much battery drain as battery wear when messing with it. I might just run ARM PopOS or Arch in UTM as a compromise.
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: Relevancy of the Steam Deck in this conversation… been hard to deal with StockX lately and need a different work break distraction. don’t want to make my personal Mac have more battery wear just for Asahi
<mps>
I use macbook for daily work and web reading, sometimes videos watching and I quite satisfied, but I don't use heavy desktops and/or games, expect compiling
<nicolas17>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: there's always a chance you'll screw up the Mac side at some point so you should keep backups of your data anyway :)
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<spiralw>
hello! I'm trying to install asahi on my macbook air, and I accidentally turned on the laptop after the first reboot without going into 1TR. when I did get into 1TR, I got a message saying "Your system did not boot into the correct recoveryOS", and when pressing enter after that message I get a bless error "could not load apfs.efi data"
<spiralw>
what did I do wrong / what do I need to do to continue the install correctly?
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]>
<mps> "I use macbook for daily work and..." <- Does it handle Gnome DE well?
<spiralw>
ah, I just did a reboot and went back into 1TR and it seems to work correctly now
<spiralw>
weird
<j`ey>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: mps doesnt use gnome, but i think others do and others are using kde which works fine
<mps>
AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]: as j`ey told
<nicolas17>
plasma* :p
<j`ey>
is there anothe DE under the KDE umbrella?
<j`ey>
if not, im basically right :P
<mps>
for me best DE is awesome wm ;)
<nicolas17>
is there another desktop OS made by Microsoft or can we unambiguously call Windows "Microsoft"? :P
<j`ey>
I feel like if you have to call it 'awesome' to make it seem awesome, it isnt awesome :P
<nicolas17>
the KDE rebrand 10+ years ago seems to have failed
<j`ey>
I dont use it, so dont pay much attention ;)
<nicolas17>
friends ask me about current status like "hey since you're a kde dev how's the wayland support nowadays" and I'm embarrassed to answer "I have no idea, my computer has an old Plasma, I just take care of the websites and servers"
<j`ey>
pretty sure people here have used/are using it on wayland on the m1
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<odyssey28[m]>
<mps> "speakers works" <- not for me...
<j`ey>
odyssey28[m]: speakers are disabled for now
<odyssey28[m]>
oh ok
<j`ey>
the code is there, but disabled by default until its deemed more 'safe'
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<cmalvi[m]>
<AnthonyGlyadchenko[m]> "Does it handle Gnome DE well?" <- Yes I’m using it with pop shell
<cmalvi[m]>
<j`ey> "the code is there, but disabled..." <- Are in works or in “stall” for now?
<j`ey>
not sure
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<cmalvi[m]>
Oh ok thanks 😊 what do you think about a monthly / weekly blog about development?