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<marcan>
milek7: no, that means you're missing a driver
<tpw_rules>
does apple silicon (or indeed aarch64) support nested virtualization of some sort?
<marcan>
M2 does
<marcan>
M1 does not
<sri>
why
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<sri>
i got m9
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<jannau>
M2 and I think Neoverse V1/N2 support nested virtualization upstream linux does not. there is a patchset for 5.17-rc which does not trivially rebase on top of 5.19
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<MuonBluon>
hi!
<MuonBluon>
Does Asahi linux on m1 gives usb2.0 speed on usb-c for m1 2020 devices?
<mps>
MuonBluon: yes
<MuonBluon>
okay so we will have to wait for usb3 speeds on tb ports, it shows wip in feature chart.
<mps>
USB 2.10, 480 Mbp
<mps>
Mbps*
<j`ey>
MuonBluon: yup
<MuonBluon>
yeah usb 2.10 is good enough for booting from usb (via m1n1+u-boot in esp).
<MuonBluon>
mostly in non graphics/console only mode
<MuonBluon>
i wanted to give hostapd and dnsmasq a spin .
<MuonBluon>
on m1
<MuonBluon>
someone post iw list output for me.. it shows (* #{ managed } <= 1, #{ P2P-device } <= 1, #{ P2P-client, P2P-GO } <= 2, #{ AP } <= 2, total <= 4, #channels <= 2). That should be good enough for running both ap and client together.
<MuonBluon>
s/someone post/someone posted
<mps>
MuonBluon: fyi, you can use iwd in AP mode
<MuonBluon>
can i install only bootload (m1n1 + u-boot) in ESP without resizing partition
<j`ey>
MuonBluon: you need to resize to make space
<MuonBluon>
even if i just want to install bootloader only?
<_jannau_>
there is no ESP by default, it's something the installer creates after resizing
<hell__>
USB 2.10?
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<MuonBluon>
https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/. --- this is wild! even for UEFI environment only install, we need 3GB of space! I guess its because of apple's weird choices. anyone has more information on it?
<MuonBluon>
"2.5GB of this is used for the “stub” macOS partition, that includes critical components such as Apple’s bootloader and firmware, and a full copy of the macOS recovery image. " -- wow! so each OS needs 2.5GB as "stub"?
<marcan>
There is at least one command that does not work (firmware returns an error) involved in AP setup, that's also something I want to fix with the WiFi tracer
<marcan>
(since obviously this does work on macOS)
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<mps>
anyone tried iwd in AP mode?
<marcan>
(this is on '87, it might work on older chips for all I know)
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<isoriano>
@Glanzmann, Hi, i am using you Debian distro on my M2 MBP, since the last update the touchpad is not working and also the BT connection to a sound box not anymore.
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<Glanzmann>
isoriano: Lets move to #asahi-alt. Can you send me your uname -a output?
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<MuonBluon>
Why does asahi installer wants to shrink my partition by 30GB when I only want to install UEFI version (M1N1/M1N1 Stage2/U-Boot)? That should need barely 3GB
<tpw_rules>
don't you also want space to put an OS?
<j`ey>
not if you have it on an external HD
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<tpw_rules>
no, it's bare metal. you can run it under a hypervisor for development and debug purposes, but that's not the normal use case
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<tpw_rules>
and the minimal install is 99.9% arch linux arm, so awesomewm should work fine. there is some software that has issues with the 16K page size but i haven't heard reports that awesomewm is one of them
<zeroshotp[m]>
tpw_rules: Awesome, thank you. I am correct in that it is a full archlinux build, and that awesomewm, as well as any other typical programs will work with it? Or does Xorg and friends have some x86 dependences and such as well?
<zeroshotp[m]>
Oh great thank you so much
<zeroshotp[m]>
I'm so excited to see this project flourish!
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<tpw_rules>
i'm not an arch user at all, but from what i understand most of the repositories should just work. the "full" asahi linux install comes with X and plasma and firefox and stuff. i think some people have said that the AUR stuff needs to be told it's allowed to compile for aarch64
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<mps>
zeroshotp[m]: I'm also not arch alarm user, I use alpine linux and awesomewm works very fine
<mps>
for me everything I need and tested works except F2FS driver
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<Erix>
hi
<Erix>
just couldnt clarify with google search
<Erix>
do I need to do anything else for kernel update
<Erix>
other than sudo pacman -Syusc
<Erix>
or including kernel I am updated with this command?
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<jannau>
Erix: it updates everything, 2nd-stage m1n1, u-boot and kernel but I think the 's' in '-Syusc' is wrong
<Erix>
thank you.
<Erix>
sudo pacman -Syu is what I use
<Erix>
I dont know how I added sc part
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<jannau>
that will work and is the recommended command
<Erix>
5.19.0-rc7-asahi-2-1-ARCH is the one I have
<Erix>
after updating everything
<Erix>
everything works for me to satisfy daily use, just the keyboard lights I miss in the evening
<Erix>
the rest is very usable and thanks to everyone involved if they are here
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<zeroshotp[m]>
<Erix> "thank you...." <- You can check `man pacman` - `sudo pacman -Syu` is pretty standard but `sudo pacman -Syuc` is also fine - the extra `c` just cleans the older packages and such up. It's good to do every so often, but not necessarily a great idea if you need to downgrade packages if something goes wrong with the update.
<hell__>
you can also run the `c` step separately: `sudo pacman -Sc`
<hell__>
in case you want to upgrade, reboot, and delete the old packages once you're satisfied with the new packages (e.g. no regressions)
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<zeroshotp[m]>
hell__: Yeah, this is more typical - at least from my experience. When you know you have a decent set up and things are working
<hell__>
on my (x86_64) arch installs I run `sudo pacman -Scc` whenever I start running out of space on my SSD
<hell__>
240GB SSD gets full pretty quickly ._.
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