#asahi on 2022-08-13 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-04-28 01:57 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/ | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

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00:59 <chadmed> im happy with eas-wip as a PoC but i dont know enough about the core/cluster joule counters just yet to declare the values accurate. the cluster counters go a bit loopy when you hit floating point instructions and im not even sure if the e core counters are counting in joules

01:01 <chadmed> the p core dynamic power values line up with some rough work i did using the smc's power meter but beyond that theres still some stuff to work out

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03:11 <Techcable> so I just installed Asahi Linux on my MacBook Pro and suddenly I realized you have filled a big hole in my heart :)

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03:12 <Techcable> but I am having issues connecting to wifi

03:13 <Techcable> somehow wifi networks aren't showing up in the KDE wifi manager or in nmtui?

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03:24 <chadmed> have you started iwd?

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03:30 <Techcable> no. I'm just using network manager?

03:31 <Techcable> I thought that would just figure itself out....

03:31 <Techcable> let me try iwd

03:32 <Techcable> systemd says the service is active...

03:36 <chadmed> does wlan0 appear when you run ip a?

03:37 <Techcable> no it was missing

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03:37 <Techcable> but a reboot fixed it so I'm happy

03:37 <chadmed> ok the wifi card hasnt been probed then is all

03:37 <Techcable> yeah a reboot fixed it

03:37 <chadmed> yeah, theres a couple of racey things here and there but theyll be sorted out eventually

03:37 <Techcable> I forgot the first law of IT

03:38 <chadmed> :P

03:38 <Techcable> :)

03:38 <tpw_rules> probably the firmware being unpacked on first boot

03:39 <chadmed> probably in this case, though sometimes brcmfmac just doesnt probe too

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03:40 <Techcable> So I have a question, it seems like ALARM doesn't really have a traditional wiki like arch or even alpine

03:40 <chadmed> virtually everything in the arch wiki is transferable

03:40 <Techcable> okay good

03:41 <Techcable> I check arch wiki even when using Mac software 😂

03:41 <chadmed> its literally just arch but all the packages are built for aarch64

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03:42 <Techcable> but is there a place for documenting ARM-specific stuff besides the platform list or Asahi GitHub wiki?

03:42 <chadmed> what arm specific stuff do you have in mind

03:43 <Techcable> nothing in particular, i just kind of figured there had to be a lot of kludges and issues

03:43 <Techcable> the apple M1 Mac transition was nasty

03:43 <chadmed> nah aarch64 support in linux is extremely mature

03:43 <Techcable> yes that's what I was thinking :)

03:44 <chadmed> kludges and issues are relegated entirely to the quirks of individual platforms, which the kernel mostly abstracts away so you can just use the machine like you would any other computer

03:44 <Techcable> or what you were kind of implying ;)

03:44 <chadmed> pacman -S ${PACKAGE} etc, it all Just Works(tm) 99.999% of the time

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03:45 <Techcable> awesome! thanks for your help

03:45 <chadmed> np :)

03:47 <Techcable> it's nice to have Arch on my new laptop (and the AArch64 instruction set is much nicer than x64)

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04:27 <gmarx> hi there, Im new here, should I start from some documentation to get the basics?

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04:45 <Techcable> gmarx: Have you ever used Arch before?

04:46 <Techcable> How would you rate your Linux/Unix experience?

04:46 <Techcable> So far the install process has been pretty seamless for me (but as alwa

04:47 <Techcable> (but of course any disk repartitioning risks data corruption)

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05:15 <Techcable> anyways I didn't have any troubles using the installer (I just did it today), but you should have some Linux/Arch knowledge in case something goes wrong...

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12:17 <bad1conscience[m]> hi all, i was in here a couple of days ago reporting some problems with UBOOT

12:17 <bad1conscience[m]> I have run into another, and that is that UBOOT crashes when I simply have my usb-c hub plugged in with nothing attached to it.

12:18 <jannau> has the usb-hub a card reader?

12:18 <bad1conscience[m]> yep

12:19 <bad1conscience[m]> its this model

12:19 <bad1conscience[m]> https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09FS7F71W/ref=pe_27091401_487024491_TE_item

12:22 <jannau> it's the same problem or the card reader was probably all along

12:23 <jannau> marcan: please apply https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/20220810195422.4334-1-j@jannau.net/

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12:24 <bad1conscience[m]> hi! thanks for that.

12:24 <marcan> thanks, I ran into that one too

12:25 <bad1conscience[m]> is there a central place for bug reporting. i'm not using Asahi Linux as a daily driver yet. I just want to explore and report any bugs I encounter, but i don't want to bug you with things you already know about.

12:25 <bad1conscience[m]> "bug" you, pun unintended

12:27 <mps> few hours ago I merged this patch for alpine linux in u-boot-asahi package

12:28 <mps> tested it two two days with different devices attached, didn't noticed problem

12:28 <mps> s/two//

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18:29 <Cy8aer[m]> @Glanzman: I just tested the 5.19.0-asahi-00002-g8a17b567c1b1/Debian and the bluetooth support is away. Is that on purpose=

18:30 <Cy8aer[m]> ? (why is ? and = so near together...)

18:30 <Cy8aer[m]> s/Glanzman/Glanzmann/

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18:35 <Cy8aer[m]> Which kernel module is needed for this?... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xVCumiBSiiayPgDbtXuKxCfT)

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18:40 <Cy8aer[m]> But in your bootstrap this is set to module. Funny.

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19:04 <bluetail27> mps are you open to dms?

19:04 <Glanzmann> Cy8aer[m]: lets move it to #asahi-alt

19:05 <Glanzmann> Cy8aer[m]: I did not disable bluetooth on purpose.

19:09 <mps> bluetail27: dms?

19:09 <mps> private chat?

19:10 <Cy8aer[m]> Glanzmann: is #asahi-alt an irc channel? Just asking, because I cannot find it on matrix

19:11 <bluetail27> yea. I'd like to know something about re-deploying os-configurations and best practices when doing so. Cause before I start writing a setup script and test it in a VM, I'd like to have some resources...

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19:12 <mps> bluetail27: maybe it is better to join #asahi-alt

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19:12 <bluetail27> Ok I write my question there

19:12 <mps> or #asahi-offtopic, so maybe someone else could help

19:14 <Glanzmann> Cy8aer[m]: Yes, it is. But short answer is, I think the bluetooth module was previously automatically selected, but with a rebase it nolonger is. I now modified the config to include the module and rebuilding at the moment. Once I confirmed the module is in, I rebuild everything and push it and you can test. Sorry about that.

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19:15 <Cy8aer[m]> de nada. Thanks for your effort and I try to bride #asahi-offtopic

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19:21 <Cy8aer[m]> no #asahi-alt of course

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19:22 <Glanzmann> Cy8aer[m]: https://tg.st/u/linux-image-5.19.0-asahi-00002-gf2a0617d277d_5.19.0-asahi-00002-gf2a0617d277d-1_arm64.deb - this contains the bluetooth module, now running the entire bootstrap.sh

19:23 <Cy8aer[m]> Thanks very much.

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20:13 <Brill> New to asahi - what a cool project

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20:19 <bluetail27> outta interest how did you find out about asahi?

20:22 <Brill> Through looking through the channel list on OFTC, was surprised it existed -- have been thinking about experimenting on my M1

20:22 <Brill> I'm currently running the install

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