<marcan>
don't think we can do much about random AUR packages breaking the world
<j`ey>
I thought not
<marcan>
whynothugo left a comment on it already, so hopefully it will be fixed
<j`ey>
so did phire in 2020 :P
<phire>
indeed
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<MaximilianGaedig[m]>
Hi, I wanted to ask what unsupported means here https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support , does it mean those features will never get supported or just aren't in the moment and there is no work done on them currently?
<j`ey>
just not at the moment
<marcan>
several people have asked that, maybe it needs clarification
<dottedmag>
I'm updating the page to make it clear
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<amw>
Has anyone gotten KVM to work on an M1 (for aarch64) ?
<j`ey>
amw: yes
<j`ey>
it's worked for ages. are you having an issue?
<amw>
I am trying to boot a debian CD but it doesn't seem to start up
<amw>
virt-manager says HVM not support on aarch64 - so thought it might not work
<j`ey>
do you have /dev/kvm?
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<j`ey>
did you mean HVM or KVM? I dunno what HVM is
<amw>
I think HVM is virt-manager's way of saying hardware Virtualisation
<j`ey>
ah
<amw>
I have /dev/kvm - do you have an example cmd line or link to example?
<amw>
I've got a kvm command line that works on my disk - as per j`ey's link but virt-manager won't run the same image
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<mps>
aha ok, idk how to use virt-manager
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<amw>
The virt-manager stuff tries to abstract all the virtualisation systems into a standard xml format
<amw>
So I think it has problems of the lowest common denominator being not that good and the magic xml to get to underlying virtualiser being rather obscure...
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<tomdownsouth[m]>
Hi all, I'm new to Asahi and an end user. I have a question about kmail - or more specifically QtWebEngine. This isn't working for me and I see it is using Chromium. Is this not expected to be working until Chromium is updated to support 16k pages? Thanks!
<j`ey>
tomdownsouth[m]: it has been fixed in chromium, so QtWebEngine needs to update their version to get the fix
<tomdownsouth[m]>
j`ey: Ok great - at the moment kmail doesn't render email contents and runs 190% CPU (macbook air gets hot)
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<prom3theu5[m]>
Has any information been collected with regards to nested virtualization support with m2 yet?
<prom3theu5[m]>
or is it still too early?
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<j`ey>
prom3theu5[m]: afaik noone has tested it
<jannau>
nested virtualisation is supported according to the bits in the feature register but I don't think anyone has looked beyond that
<mps>
isn't this kernel config options
<prom3theu5[m]>
ahh ok cheers ^^ - i'm trying to decide whether to grab a new box, will hold off for a while - its my sole reason for thinking about dumping the m1 right now, as it still performs great
<jannau>
it's not supported by upstream for arm64
<mps>
jannau: yes and enabled by kernel?
<j`ey>
mps: it needs kernel support, if thats what you mean
<mps>
j`ey: yes, this
<j`ey>
but it's not in the kernel currently, just a patchset on the mailing list
<jannau>
the kernel needs to support nested virtualisation which it currently does not
<mps>
ah, ok
<mps>
that is what I meant to ask
<mps>
thanks both
<prom3theu5[m]>
thanks :)
<jannau>
prom3theu5[m]: if you want to use NV there is no immediate need to switch your m1 machine for m2
<j`ey>
jannau: you mean because NV will take a while to be upstream?
<jannau>
yes and since nobody has confirmed that it works on m2, not that I expect it not to work
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<prom3theu5[m]>
well I can kind of get by with Lima for now, but some of my workload requires it atm that I have to use a cloud vm for. More of a convenience really
<prom3theu5[m]>
Aye yeah - I understand that ^^
<mps>
life with FOSS, just in time I stopped to use rk3399 chromebook it got everything to be fully usable :)
<j`ey>
prom3theu5[m]: Im unsure why you need nested virt though?
<prom3theu5[m]>
I do a lot of work for hasicorp - and contribute largely to packer.
<prom3theu5[m]>
Pipeline tests run within vms, and orchestrate creation of vms within them
<j`ey>
prom3theu5[m]: ah ok, cool
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<phlogi1[m]>
Hi there, I'm planning to use an m1/m2 as an improved home-server. One concern is attached storage via usb/thunderbolt. I understand that currently "only" usb3 is supported. Has anyone run performance tests (read/write, etc.) using UASP and an external SSD?
<phlogi1[m]>
I know that i could use a NAS instead if directly attaching disks, but I don't want another system for storing data honestly.
<tpw_rules>
is usb3 supported yet?
<j`ey>
tpw_rules: no
<tpw_rules>
so the benchmark answer is "half of gigabit ethernet, if you're lucky"
<jannau>
except on the usb-a ports on mac mini
<phlogi1[m]>
tpw_rules: it's listed in the alpha release notes from march, so yes on the mac mini
<phlogi1[m]>
I looked at the mac mini mostly. That will be the device I was going to use.
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<bluetail[m]>
phlogi1: use the USB Type A ports
<bluetail[m]>
I have transfer speeds of ~500mb/s
<bluetail[m]>
dont use usb4 devices for 24/7 nas usage
<bluetail[m]>
I tried in the past and they overheated
<bluetail[m]>
(nvme usb4)
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<PyroPeter>
bluetail[m]: 500 millibits per second?
<bluetail[m]>
Megabytes per second
<PyroPeter>
ok, sounds like USB3 is working
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<nsklaus>
usb3 is working on macbookpro m1 ?
<j`ey>
no, only mac mini usb-a ports
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<nsklaus>
.. sooon ..
<nsklaus>
;)
<nsklaus>
i hope for sleep, deep idle and better energy management soon too
<stellarorbit[m]>
<kettenis> "I think stellarorbit meant "..." <- Sorry for the extremely late response. I meant that I am running OpenBSD on my mac mini and not asahi linux, but I used the asahi installer on option 3 to just install uefi which is m1n1 and u-boot
<phlogi1[m]>
oh thanks for letting my know. Did you run some io benchmark like bonnie++ or similar as well?
<phlogi1[m]>
Can you elaborate on how stable that drive is? Do you ever get disconnects or any other problems?
<phlogi1[m]>
<bluetail[m]> "I tried in the past and they..." <- Well that is a question of cooling the device properly. I'm fine with that, I would not use any default case anyway, but rather build something on my own.
<sven>
the usb a ports should be very stable, they’re just a regular usb controller attached via pcie
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<fionera[m]>
one more reason to use asahi :D Displayport MST Support is way more reachable than on macos
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