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<mps> just ordered another macbook, this time m1pro 16 inch with 32GB ram, hope it will arrive before end of week
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<Sobek[m]> Why do you need one more macbook pro ? Are you trying to compete with m a r c a n's collection ?
<mps> Sobek[m]: heh no. I need ansi keyboard and this one I use now have iso one
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<maz> one always need one more machine anyway.
<mps> actually i need it for fast compiling my $day_job software
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<matejcik[m]> hello. I was wondering: Macs historically don't support displayport multi-stream (MST) which is used for daisy-chaining monitors, and also by many multi-monitor USB3 hubs. In case of M1, is it a hardware limitation or is it a driver issue?
<sven> very likely hardware
<sven> we can essentially only route a single DP stream to a single usb c port
<tpw_rules> mps: how did you get apple to ship you one that fast. it took me like four months to get mine :(
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<mps> tpw_rules: asked local reseller what they have in their store
<mps> got proforma invoice with 'delivery time: 1 day'
<mps> but if got it in 2 or 3 it is ok
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<mabiola> I run asahi btw.
<Arian[m]> rocking that windows XP GTK theme on my macbook
<mabiola> Need to set up i3, kde rubs me the wrong way.
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<mps> mabiola: I use awesome wm, easy to write needed 'applets' in lua
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<mabiola> mps: I like awesome, used it for some time circa 2017.
<mabiola> Just prefer i3, not trying to do too much.
<mabiola> Are you guys looking for contributors who aren't ll engineers?
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<mabiola> Happy to help.
<mps> any help is good, (I'm not officially affiliated with asahi)
<mps> testing, reporting bugs/issues, impoving docs ....
<Tramtrist> God's work
<whynothugo> Has anyone tried running chromium on asahi using qemu?
<j`ey> whynothugo: you mean to get around page size issues?
<whynothugo> Exactly
<j`ey> theyve been fixed
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<whynothugo> Oh! I had no idea!
<whynothugo> Still unrelease, right?
<psykose> 102
<psykose> (or 103, i forget, but it's out for a long time)
<mps> whynothugo: it works on alpine, I tested it about two months ago. not sure is it upgraded on Arch
* whynothugo realises he doesn't even have chromium installed on asahi.
<mps> and it worked earlier with 4K pages patched kernel
<whynothugo> Yeah, but the idea of a slower kernel is offputting... I'd rather have a just a slow chromium.
<whynothugo> Consider I was willing to run it on wemu XD
<whynothugo> *qemu
<mps> I think it is upgraded on Arch already
<mps> firefox works from the start
<whynothugo> Firefox ftw :)
<mps> a week or two psykose also fixed vscode (code-oss) on alpine
<mps> ago*
<psykose> yeah it was 102, since that's what electron19 uses and i patched vscode to use 19
<psykose> afaik everything using either should work fine on 16k
<mps> for me only problem with 16K is the F2FS driver
<psykose> mhm
<psykose> not sure what version of chromium alarm has
<whynothugo> jemalloc isn't done yet, is it?
<whynothugo> (it's what telegram-desktop uses)
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<psykose> works fine on alpine
<psykose> (jemalloc disabled)
<psykose> ah, alarm has chromium 103
<psykose> should work
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<Tramtrist> This conversation confuse me.. do these patches get merged upstream?
<whynothugo> chromium works fine on arch/asahi.
<mps> whynothugo: alpine doesn't use jemalloc for telegram-desktop
<psykose> they are fixed upstream, yes
<whynothugo> Nice
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<whynothugo> psykose: I'd have to disable that at build-time, right?
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<psykose> or use a jemalloc with the correct page size
<Tramtrist> Why does this problem exist .. chromium works on any vanilla kernel doesnt it?
<psykose> `--with-lg-hugepage=21` is 64k
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<psykose> (and works with any lower)
<Tramtrist> oh
<mps> Tramtrist: some software uses fixed page size
<whynothugo> Tramtrist: Patches were upstreamed, chromium now works, I was just out-of-date on the news here.
<Tramtrist> got it
<Tramtrist> thanks all
<psykose> also this is only with the partition alloc
<psykose> if you build chromium before 102 and disable the parition alloc and allocator shim, it works anyway
<mps> though I think Zig is fixed
<Tramtrist> That was an excellent explanation mps
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<kettenis> "Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen3 (SC8280XP), the current high end of Arm based Laptop SoCs"
<kettenis> dream on qualcomm, dream on ;)
<maz> if you restrict it to "ARM Ltd" based laptops, they may actually be right. but otherwise, yeah, right...
<marcan> what does "ARM Ltd" mean, "does not forget to implement nVHE mode"? :p
<maz> that, and a couple of other things! :D
<maz> I'm quite curious to see what they will do with the Nuvia design though.
<marcan> (speaking of, do you have an M2 yet? we're going to have to do the usual thing for the core GIC quirks and PMU support...)
<j`ey> *Arm Ltd :P
<maz> "Make arm ARM again".
<maz> no M2 yet, waiting for a mini to land.
<marcan> ɑrm
<maz> at this point I'll be all over it.
<j`ey> marcan: lol
<j`ey> maz: same, but then m3 will be close so I will wait again
<marcan> then M4 will be close!
<_jannau_> why would limit the selection that way if qualcomm itself doesn't say it uses ARM Ltd. based cores
<_jannau_> +we
<marcan> I think he meant "ɑrm ARM compliant"
<maz> not really, I meant "cores designed by ARM".
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<marcan> ah, then qualcomm doesn't count either indeed
<maz> don't they? I don't think they are shipping any internal design at the moment.
<maz> their Krio cores are nothing but rebadged Cortex.
<marcan> literally zero changes, just a marketing name?
<_jannau_> yes, it should be cortex-x1 + a78, maybe with some custom qualcomm sprinkles
<maz> usually, larger caches...
<marcan> ouch, I thought they were trying harder than that
<maz> and of course the MIDR, which changes everything!
<marcan> you should know, VMs on macOS are magically running on a homogeneous system ;)
<maz> it is quite funny to see them adding their MIDRs to the errata lists each time there is a workaround...
<marcan> I wonder if we'll ever run into any serious M* errata needing kernel workarounds? though Apple seem pretty adept at fixing stuff with chicken bits...
<marcan> the latest M2 pile even speak of flipflop delays which is 0_o
<maz> nice...
<kettenis> 0_o?
<Sobek[m]> <marcan> "the latest M2 pile even speak of..." <- Where is that pile of chicken?
<marcan> kettenis: that's a smiley
<j`ey> Sobek[m]: src/chickens*
<j`ey> in m1n1
<Sobek[m]> Thanks !
<Sobek[m]> Do these come from somewhere in the XNU source tree ?
<marcan> they come from ~mystery~ (because I'm tired of Apple trying to censor the places where they forget them, but it's a public source)
<Sobek[m]> Ok, I understand the point in keeping the source a mystery.
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<gaudem[m]> anyone else here using leif liddy's asahi fedora distro? i really enjoy that he builds and hosts a repo to update from, but I'm not sure about the latest versioning:... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pxvblssieSNrFJVYYZNTcowk)
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<_jannau_> what's your concern? it's the based on tag names in https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/tags
<j`ey> gaudem[m]: rc - release candidate
<j`ey> kernel-5.19.0-rc7 is before kernel-5.19.0, kernel-5.19.0 is the final release
<j`ey> err, s/final/actual/
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<gaudem[m]> hmm, okay. it doesnt appear as dnf picks it up as an update
<_jannau_> maybe "-asahi" vs. "-rc7.asahi" is an issue
<_jannau_> not sure if Leif is still available he was planning to go on vacation
<whynothugo> I see that `fd` now works too.
<_jannau_> whynothugo: which distro? for asahilinux / arch linux arm there are afaik 2 issues whih remain unfixed
<whynothugo> On asahi. Well, it use to crash immediately on startup, and that's not happening any more.
<j`ey> whynothugo: did you install the package or with cargo install?
<whynothugo> Package.
<whynothugo> It just works now.
<whynothugo> Oh, no, never mind.
<whynothugo> Wrong terminal
<j`ey> :|
<psykose> cargo install fd --no-default-features
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<j`ey> yay jemalloc
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<psykose> or well, whatever is the correct command
<psykose> fd-find
<_jannau_> and I hoped for a moment alarm rebased and merged the rust fix which sits there for almost 2 months now
<_jannau_> and I think the fd package use it's own jemalloc, so it has to be fixed as well
<psykose> you either need --no-default-features which doesn't even use it, or JEMALLOC_OVERRIDE="/usr/lib/libjemalloc.so" to link the system one (compiled with the correct page size)
<psykose> or perhaps a way to set the page size of the vendored one, shrug
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<_jannau_> the system jemalloc will not work since that uses the build page size of 4k as well
<psykose> hah
<_jannau_> pull request open since the end of march
<psykose> well, just the first option then
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<mps> (don't understand why people use jemalloc for ordinary software)
<tpw_rules> does building jemalloc by default for 16k or 64k substantially impact its performance?
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<psykose> cannot answer that question but i assume you can find a benchmark suite to throw at it in various configurations
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<whynothugo> My bluetooth headphones connect and immediately disconnect. Are they expected to work? Or is some driver support still missing?
<opticron> whynothugo, have you installed all the necessary pipewire packages?
<whynothugo> I have the same packages as I do on my x86_64 setup.
<opticron> I tried to do it that way, too
<opticron> and I had the same experience
<opticron> after installing pipewire and associated packages, things worked correctly the first time
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<lucienmaxwell[m]> anyone else having trouble with the AUR right now?
<lucienmaxwell[m]> or can point me to the obvious fix? newbie, just installed like 20' ago
<j`ey> you'll have to say what issue you're having
<princesszoey> worked fine for me at 2am using yay
<princesszoey> also I didn't realize how FAST asahi was. it's insane
<princesszoey> expected it to kinda chug with no graphics acceleration but nupe
<lucienmaxwell[m]> yeah sorry it looks like it's working now. although I guess I'm just now realizing that a lot of the packages I'm used to will be unavailable because they don't have arm versions, right?
<princesszoey> right
<j`ey> lucienmaxwell[m]: most packages will be fine..
<jannau> you probably can build most them when you ignore the architecture
<princesszoey> only two things I've had issues with is discord and telegram
<lucienmaxwell[m]> really? so I can just say "build anyway" when I get the architecture warning?
<princesszoey> telegram installed but won't launch and I was working on other stuff
<lucienmaxwell[m]> cool, trying brave now
<lucus> telegram uses jemalloc too
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<Cy8aer[m]> Uuh I tried grub password locking. That is not fun: the keyboard is not as responsive as expected. Some keys are not responding from time to time. I was happy when I could login and disable it again.
<Cy8aer[m]> (mb pro 14'')
<princesszoey> ah ha, thanks lucus, I hadn't bothered to do anything pat trying to open it
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<Tramtrist> what kinds of battery life are people seeing on asahi? M1 pro or m2 air?
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<princesszoey> I lost like 15% battery in 2 hours of use?
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<princesszoey> I wasn't paying much attention to it
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<nicolas17> Tramtrist: inevitably it's going to be worse than macOS for now
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<Tramtrist> ua
<Tramtrist> ya
<Tramtrist> figured
<Tramtrist> this M2 air is running 20 hours on normal use so
<Tramtrist> its pretty ridiculous
<Tramtrist> on macos that is
<Tramtrist> if i get 15 hours its still nutso
<Tramtrist> on asahi
<Willmish[m]> I was rewatching Marcan’s podcast with FLOSS weekly and he was mentioning 8-12 then I believe
<Willmish[m]> Tho that was 2 months ago
<Willmish[m]> For m1
<princesszoey> I get like 3 hours on my 14" MBP. I don't get it. I'm just in outlook/discord/firefox
<princesszoey> (on macOS)
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<princesszoey> and it's already down 13% battery health since November
<Willmish[m]> princesszoey: That sounds like a defective battery to me
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<princesszoey> yeah I'm going to run by the apple store. I don't know if it's because it's plugged into my dock 24/7 or what
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<Willmish[m]> On macOS it has pretty smart battery charging health wise, so shouldn’t be a problem imo
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<Willmish[m]> Ye, that thing
<Willmish[m]> * that thing (optimised battery charging)
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<princesszoey> except it NEVER stays at 80% Lol. it's 100% 24/7
<princesszoey> my laptop has been unplugged twice since the end of april
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<nicolas17> well that's why :P
<nicolas17> optimized battery charging looks at your routine to see when you plug it in (same as on iPhone)
<nicolas17> so for example if every day you leave your iPhone charging overnight and unplug it at 8am, it will charge to 80%, stop, then continue charging at 7:30am so that it's 100% by 8am
<nicolas17> if you never unplug it then there's no routine to learn from
<nicolas17> I assume mac is similar
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<princesszoey> ahh
<princesszoey> I'd have liked it to just stay at 80%
<princesszoey> I'll learn in a few weeks when I'm back in in person classes vs remote
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<alarm> hi guys
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<alarm> ls
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<alarm> is this an error about asahi? 'error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: ELF load command alignCment not page-aligned'
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<j`ey> alarm: that sounds like a 16K page size issue
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<j`ey> alarm: what package?
<alarm> i am trying to install ghidra but it uses gradle
<alarm> when i run gradle i got the error
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<nicolas17> princesszoey: on iOS it also has some crazy extra heuristics
<nicolas17> like it learns what's your usual location while it's charging overnight
<nicolas17> and if you're not at your usual location then it charges to 100% (if you're not home you probably won't have the same routine either)
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