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<nicolas17> what Mac?
<thansen> it's the 14" mbp
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<felixphew> any ideas on what could be causing tinny, distorted-sounding headphone jack audio on a m1 pro 14"? (fedora, with 6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.1 kernel) (this is when playing through pipewire fwiw)
<Zopolis4> iirc someone said it was an upstream issue earlier
<Zopolis4> its a known issue
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<felixphew> thanks, I'll look through the logs
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<mps> felixphew: it is fixed in latest two taged kernel releases
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<povik> thansen: yes, you should see an alsa device
<povik> what kernel are you running?
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<jannau> felixphew: can you check that asahi 6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.1 is the kernel running? the headphone audio distortion should be fixed in that version
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<bcrumb> Is there a way to manually refresh USB port checks?
<bcrumb> I still have that one racing issue or whatever it is, don't want to constantly plug in out
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<ChaosPrincess> rmmod atcphy/modprobe atcphy
<ChaosPrincess> or sth like that
<felixphew> jannau, mps: 6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.1 is definitely what uname is giving me
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<Glanzmann> felixphew: This kernel also gives me trouble on my macbook air.
<Glanzmann> The same tree, but different config.
<felixphew> headphone audio trouble? or something else
<Glanzmann> felixphew: i2c floods dmesg and I think no sound. I reported it and waited for a new tag which never came. But if you want I try it again and report again.
<Glanzmann> brb
<j`ey> Glanzmann: re: am I get a m2 mac mini? I really want one, just not sure if I can justify it yet
<chadmed_> Glanzmann: ??
<Glanzmann> j`ey: Same for me. However I wait for the geekbench and the asahi unboarding process. And I still have the issue that under org xfreerdp has display artefacts. Which always lets me go back to an amd64 based system where it works.
<Glanzmann> chadmed_: That is my answer to should I buy a mini.
<chadmed_> oh right :P
<Glanzmann> It's not a mini but a midi.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: the xfreerdp issue is only with gpu?
<chadmed_> i had a zen 3 mitx machine for a while, my goal is to transition all my stuff away from x86
<chadmed_> its a dead end and electricity is expensive here
<Glanzmann> j`ey: Nope, also with simpledrm.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: weird
<Glanzmann> j`ey: And with gpu but without gl there is also an issue with regions not being updated but in addition it is dog slow.
<Glanzmann> I'll write it down and file a bug report maybe marcan or alyssa or jannau or anyone more capable than me can resolve it.
<Glanzmann> j`ey: My house consumes less than 300 Watts. So I can power the base demand using two solar panels (600 Watts). Than includes the ZEN3. :-)
<Glanzmann> s/j`ey/chadmed/g
<Glanzmann> j`ey: Yes it is weird. So maybe it is not even asahi but xfreerdp. But under amd64 it works fast with and without gl. But now that I know that it supports gl I switched on amd64 also using gl.
<Glanzmann> So let me try that kernel again.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: could be a generic xfreerdp on arm64 bug too
<jannau> Glanzmann: in which combination of (xrdp/)xfreerdp do you see issues? have you tried different servers/client (software and hardware)
<Glanzmann> On the soc page I noticed that new mini has now two different socs. So I wonder how much more single thread performance the new soc delivers.
<Glanzmann> jannau: I have Windows 2022 Servers. And I connect using xfreerdp to these systems.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: stop using windows, that's a better fix :p
<Glanzmann> I can't use rdesktop anylonger because it does not support the particular authentication method I need.
<chadmed_> i got a new job last month and ended my 6 year windows-less streak :(
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I'm not using it. But I sometimes deliver trainings where I need it. So unfortunately now way.
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<chadmed_> its so much worse than i even remember it
<Glanzmann> jannau: I'll do some videos and document the issues and make them reproducable.
<mkurz> Is it possible that USB3 is broken in the latest edge kernel? I have a elgato facecam that requires usbt-3 but it does not work at all. "v4l2-ctl --list-device" gives me "USB3-REQUIRED-FOR-FACECAM: USB3 (usb-xhci-hcd.0.auto-1):
<mkurz> /dev/media0"
<jannau> single thread perf should be roughly the same between m2 / pro and max. perf cores are 5-10% faster, efficiency cores ~20%
<mkurz> I remember a couple of weeks ago I could get an image out of the webcam already
<mkurz> No it does not even recognize the device anymore
<mkurz> Running "6.1.0-asahi-2-2-edge-ARCH"
<Glanzmann> mkurz: I have one kingston usb stick which does not work with asahi at all. Sometimes I need to replug a usb device when it was connected during boot. Otherwise I have no issues with asahi usb.
<Glanzmann> jannau: Thank you for the information.
<mkurz> Glanzmann: usb2 is working fine. Are you talking about USB3?
<jannau> mkurz: usb3 might not work if the device is plugged during boot. disconnect and reconnect should fix that
<Glanzmann> mkurz: USB2 on the USB-c ports and USB 3.1 on the USB-A ports.
<Glanzmann> jannau: Is USB3 already available on the USB-C ports?
<mkurz> jannau: It was not connected during boot. I did a fresh boot because I was in macOS this morning and 100% the device was not connected.
<felixphew> jannau: yes, definitely on 6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.1
<mkurz> jannau: Glanzmann: Like said a couple of weeks ago I could connect the same webcam and I kamoso did recognize it and rendered (even though it was very slow)
<Glanzmann> felixphew: Same issue with the kernel on m1 air: https://pbot.rmdir.de/ZuPHwP-pFBGXzs8ymjqkqw
<Glanzmann> No sound for me.
<mkurz> Like posted above I am running the current edge kernel (from the stable repo, not the dev one)
<Glanzmann> mkurz: You're talking about an external webcam?
<mkurz> Glanzmann: yes
<Glanzmann> mkurz: Or are there drivers for the internal webcam of the notebooks?
<felixphew> Glanzmann: I am getting sound from the headphone jack, it's just metallic and awful
<felixphew> it's not "no sound" for me
<Glanzmann> Ah, I see, I did that ages ago with a HDMI framegrabber. No issues.
<mkurz> Glanzmann: Just talking about an external one, I know the internal webcams not working yet
<Glanzmann> felixphew: I see, but for that issue I saw somewhere a fix. But I never experienced that particular one.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: which tag is that built from?
<jannau> Glanzmann: felixphew has distorted headphone audio on mbp 14", that issue should be fixed
<Glanzmann> I had another funny one where I got funny noises when I was not playing sound.
<Glanzmann> j`ey: asahi-6.2-rc3-5
<Glanzmann> I rebuild the kernel to double check: https://tg.st/u/screen-exchange.txt
<felixphew> jannau: if you have a known good built kernel I'm happy to try it, in case it is a problem with the fedora kernel
<j`ey> Glanzmann: OK, making sure, since the version (-5) doesnt appear in the output
<Glanzmann> j`ey: Yep. That is due to the Debian build environment and me dropping the extraversion from the .config.
<jannau> "Issuing reset due to status ..." is the message added to help debug this issue
<Glanzmann> felixphew: The last tag which works for me good and I have not heard any complains about from users, is: asahi-6.1-2 (git tag)
<Glanzmann> jannau: Nope, I did not touch the tree.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: markan added that message he means, 1a40877f725b1ebccda84b34536323f5e8cd5e37
<mkurz> jannau: USB3 is supposed to work is it?
<jannau> maybe bad interaction with the speaker amp on the same i2c bus?
<jannau> Glanzmann: can you try to disable 'speaker_right: codec@34' in t8103-j313.dts? add 'status = "disabled";' to the node
<felixphew> fyi I'm installing 6.2.0-rc3-asahi-5-1-edge-ARCH now, I'll see if that makes a difference
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<Glanzmann> jannau: I can, it takes me a little while give me a second.
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<jannau> felixphew: it shouldn't
<jannau> j313 is the only device where a tas2770 is on the same i2c bus as the headset codec
<jannau> mkurz: yes, usb3 should work on usb-c and usb-a ports
<felixphew> jannau: it did! audio working fine with the Arch-built kernel
<felixphew> so it looks like the Fedora kernel's buggy
<felixphew> leif: you've shown up right on cue :D
<Glanzmann> jannau: Here is a Video and description of what I'm doing with xfreerdp: https://tg.st/u/xfreerdp.txt
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<jannau> felixphew: maybe the fedora kernel is not what it claims to be? the issue sounds like the issue we've seen in 6.2-rc* rebases and fixed in asahi-6.2-rc3-4
<mkurz> jannau: Could you have a look at my log, this is what happens when I plug in my usb3 webcam: https://gist.github.com/mkurz/574730f0b9b2a008f9ed9940506d6be7
<felixphew> it's entirely possible, I know this kernel was built in a rush to fix some _other_ bug
<leif> yeah, I check this channel every now and again ; ) Yeah, I was going to suggest either installing the arch kernel on Fedora (sounds like you know how to do that) or trying one of these Fedora dev kernels https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/ngompa/fedora-asahi-dev/
<leif> However my Fedora kernel config is extremely close to the Arch kernel config.
<jannau> this should not be a config issue, it's a source bug fixed in 72e4e77f75e0356f9f
<leif> The SRPM is located here https://leifliddy.com/asahi-linux/37/source/SRPMS/kernel-6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.1.fc37.src.rpm I'll verify that commit....one sec
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<jannau> Glanzmann: that sounds like an arm64 issue in xfreerdp
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<Glanzmann> jannau: I see. I can try to reproduce it with a raspberry pie.
<felixphew> leif: that srpm is missing that commit
<Glanzmann> jannau: But first I'll try your speaker_right disable thing. Compiling ...
<felixphew> (well, the change that commit makes isn't there)
<felixphew> lines 460-462 of sound/soc/codecs/cs42l84.c would be missing if the patch were there
<leif> Uggghhhh, sorry there's a typo in that spec file. It' sactually using this source asahi-6.2-rc3-2 That's a pretty rare issue as I almost always do clean builds. Apologies for that. Give me 10-15 min and I'll push out a new version.
<felixphew> no worries! thanks for getting this all working so (relatively) smoothly, btw
<mkurz> jannau: I also added the dmesg output to the gist. It also says "[ 3940.016564] usbhid 1-1:1.2: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint" for the usb3 webcam...
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<Glanzmann> jannau: tg.st/u/0001-workaround-from-jannau-on-IRC.patch (your workaround worked for me): https://pbot.rmdir.de/Rb71NhhAo4FsdDSLb-M7Tg
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<felixphew> leif: while you're packaging, python3-asahi_firmware is missing a dependency on `tar` :)
<Glanzmann> jannau: But the other bug is back.
<Glanzmann> When I don't play anything noise builds up on the headphone jack.
<Glanzmann> Let me do another video.
<felixphew> interestingly, core.py and cpio.py use python `tarfile`, while update.py invokes system tar. I might pr that tomorrow and switch it over to tarfile if I remember
<Glanzmann> jannau: Oh and the messages are back, too.
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<Glanzmann> jannau: This sounds comes out of my audio jack. The longer I wait, the louder it gets. https://tg.st/u/VID_20230119_125755219.mp4
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<Glanzmann> The last dmesg is with your patch on m1 air.
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<leif> So that's an official Fedora package https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/asahi-installer/blob/rawhide/f/asahi-installer.spec Yup, you're absolutely right. I'll submit a PR that and will ping David (the maintainer)
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<leif> felxphew I just pushed 6.2.0-0.rc3.asahi5.2.fc37.aarch64 can you try that one out?
<felixphew> on it
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<felixphew> yep, works great
<leif> nice! apologies for that.
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<felixphew> thanks!
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<jannau> Glanzmann: I don't see similar artifacts with weston's rdp backend and freerdp on the same system, there thin line (single pixel) artifacts when moving windows but that looks like those are fractional scaling artifacts
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Okay, I have not tested with wayland. And I sometimes have also whole areas of the screen in a different color.
<Glanzmann> Like if an area fill did not make it through.
<Glanzmann> But I'll test with a raspberry pie if I can reproduce. If I can, I'll file a bug with xfreerdp guys.
<Glanzmann> When I run xfreerdp without opengl, it is very slow. But this is only with dcp. Without dcp on simpledrm, it was fast. But I still had the artefacts.
<jannau> mkurz: no idea, this seems to be a special device as it obviously detects whether it's connected via usb3. it might not like how we have to bring up usb3 or there's simply a race. it probably works if connected through an usb3 hub
<sven> hrm, it seems to come up as high-speed for some reason
<sven> does it work under macos?
<jannau> it was apparently working earlier with linux. mkurz can you try to find which kernel version you were using then?
<jannau> Glanzmann: freerdp logs "{Local,Remote} framebuffer format" for me, can you add those to your text file. I would expect that's PIXEL_FORMAT_BGRX32 or PIXEL_FORMAT_BGRA32
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<Glanzmann> sven / jannau: I also have a kingston usb stick which does not work on asahi but on macos and on my amd64 nuc.
<sven> can you define "does not work"?
<sven> it just doesn't enumerate?
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<Glanzmann> sven: 'lsusb' hangs. /dev/sda does not show up.
<Glanzmann> sven: On the usb-a port it works: https://pbot.rmdir.de/BCfoKc6uGgFXT4TRyxynPQ
<Glanzmann> sven: That is the device: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0951:162b Kingston Technology DataTraveler HyperX 3.0
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<sven> that last log is first on the c and then on the a port?
<Glanzmann> sven: Yep.
<sven> looks like it can't communicate with that stick for some reason
<Glanzmann> sven: It works everywhere else. And it used to work on asahi as well.
<Glanzmann> I have other usb sticks from sandisk, which works on asahi.
<sven> which was the last kernel it worked on and which was the first kernel it broke?
<jannau> mps: which device still crashes u-boot if connected? was that a kingston ssd?
<Glanzmann> sven: NO idea, but I could try to hunt that down.
<sven> that would be helpful
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<mps> jannau: it is Transcend StoreJet Transcend usb ssd
<jannau> ah, but that works fine in linux?
<mps> hm, not sure
<mps> I tested it earlier on chromebook and it worked but without u-boot
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<mps> didn't tested it with u-boot on chromebook. I could try this evening or tomorrow, hope will find time for this
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<Glanzmann> jannau: I updated the https://tg.st/u/xfreerdp.txt without gl it is: PIXEL_FORMAT_BGRX32(Local)/PIXEL_FORMAT_RGB16(Remote) with gl it is: PIXEL_FORMAT_BGRX32(local)/PIXEL_FORMAT_BGRA32(remote)
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Here I managed a nice corruption: https://tg.st/u/screenshot-mini-2023-01-19-16_14_58.png
<Glanzmann> This is with gl.
<mkurz> sven: regarding the usb3 webcam, yet it does work under macOS
<mkurz> jannau: sven Does was a couple of month ago, when I still didn't run the edge kernel, I plugged it in and it did work out of the box, I did see clear pictures of the webcam
<mkurz> jannau: sven: Not sure If I am able to figure out which kernel that was since it has been a while. But I am 100% sure it did work
<jannau> mkurz: the edge kernel doesn't make a difference. `journalctl | grep -e 'Linux version ' -e 'Found UVC 1.10 device'` maybe
<jannau> I assume it doesn't report as 'Product: USB3-REQUIRED-FOR-FACECAM' when it works
<sven> sounds like there is a weird regression for some devices that only come up as usb2 then
* Glanzmann has the perfect workaround. Sven will take all the time he needs to finish TB and than all of us get a dock and we plug in the usb in the dock. Problem solved. Build one thing on top of the other.
<sven> sounds fine with me, thunderbolt seems much less broken than dwc3 so far :D
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<mps> jannau: this transcend storejet usb-c ssd can boot on gru-kevin (rk3399 SoC) chromebook and u-boot 2022-04-rc1 patched to this board
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<mkurz> ok wow, I just updated my system (after I did yesterday) and after a restart (because I was in macOS) the rendering in plasma is broken, meaning it seems it's softwware rendered, but very very slow
<mkurz> someone else experiencing that?
<mkurz> Possible qt5-tools upgrade broke something?
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<mkurz> when running "git pull" I now get "libEGL warning: DRI2: failed to authenticate" and "libEGL warning: MESA-LOADER: failed to open swrast: libLLVM-14.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (search paths /usr/lib/dri, suffix _dri)"
<mkurz> any ideas what the problem might be?
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<mkurz> I did upgrade and restart yesterday, everything worked, I did upgrade today and restarted and now kde/plasma isn't working well anymore
<jannau> was there a llvm update to llvm-15?
<mkurz> jannau: lvm-libs (14.0.6-4 -> 15.0.7-1)
<jannau> that probably means we need to do a mesa-asahi-edge rebuild
<jannau> marcan: ^^^
<marcan> on it.
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<mkurz> jannau: marcan: thanks!
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<marcan> mkurz: done, please update and confirm it works
<marcan> (you also get a slightly newer mesa, I *think* there's no weird regressions on that one since it's been in -dev for a while)
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<jannau> seems to work fine on mac studio m1 ultra
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<mkurz> marcan: Works again! Thanks!
<mkurz> It worked without restart, just logged out and in again
<marcan> yeah, that should be enough (might want to restart your login manager too since that itself might have some components stuck on the old broken mesa)
<marcan> I should get some sleep then :) (was about to go to bed)
<mkurz> marcan: Glad you were still awake ;) Thanks for everything and good night!
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<Glanzmann> jannau: I tested xfreerdp on a raspberry pie with the exact same debian release, no screen artefacts.
<Glanzmann> Both for the non gl version and the gl version.
<Glanzmann> The non gl version is also slow, but faster than on the m1.
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Console Output from the raspberry pie: https://pbot.rmdir.de/kRq0mdrH8CVqiNFvaLSZmA - Stack trace is me pressing ctrl-c
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<bluetail> is it normal that when I use a ton of threads, and my HDD is limiting, that my mac will be slower? With a SSD that didnt happen. SSD is still the OS base, but some operations happen on the external storage.
<Glanzmann> bluetail: If the process waits for the external hdd or you swap, than yes. Also keep in mind that a hdd is 1000 times slower than an ssd when doing random access.
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<bluetail> Would it be beneficial to process data on SSD, and then move it?
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<Glanzmann> bluetail: For linear reads and writes the external hdd will only be 25 times slower. Random access hurts.
<Glanzmann> bluetail: So it depends on what you do.
<bluetail> I see. Well, fetching tons of small files... Not ideal, but not time-critical. Its just, when I do it, occasionally my mac kinda hangs and so does IRC
<bluetail> perhaps I should do it at night
<Glanzmann> bluetail: Small files is bad. If you're unlucky one seek per file means 10ms. Means 100 files per second.
<Glanzmann> Anyway got to hit the road. L8er
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<bluetail> cya
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<mkurz> jannau: sven: About the USB3 webcam I wrote before, I booted into macOS, upgraded its Firmware and now it works in Asahi too ;) Seems like the device had issues
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<karpouzi> woah! not only did the latest mesa-asahi-edge fix the 'cannot create 3 framebuffers' opengl bug in kicad, it also enables super speedy raytracing renders!
<karpouzi> nice work lina!
<karpouzi> and everyone else of course!
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<sven> mkurz: hah, nice!
<sven> so it’s recognized as a superspeed device now?
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<mkurz> sven: it says "usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci-hcd"
<mkurz> sven: so is that it?
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<sven> yup
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<mkurz> sven: great! ;)
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<nsklaus> hi all, anyone successfully ran akregator ?
<nsklaus> here it start but becomes immediately unresponsive
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<nsklaus> here's what i get: https://pastebin.com/EAU6BVAg
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