ChanServ changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/ | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<unicordion> Has anyone managed to run windows in qemu without kvm? I am struggling to find the right options to make it work
<unicordion> I'm running debian in qemu so I know I've got qemu working
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<marcan> Cyrinux: it just needs the ifdef, just haven't had a chance to look at it again.
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<Soni> do you make any effort to keep out adtech influence over the project's goals or development efforts?
<marcan> ...adtech?
<marcan> why would that have any influence over the project?
<Soni> google, microsoft, etc, yeah
<marcan> I fail to see the connection
<Soni> maybe we're a bit paranoid but, at least for web browsers, literally all major browsers have ties to adtech one way or another
<marcan> this is an OS porting project
<marcan> what are they going to do, pressure me to put ads into... kernel drivers?
<marcan> it doesn't make much sense
<Soni> well, there was the canonical thing
<marcan> what canonical thing?
<Soni> with unity
<marcan> what about it?
<Soni> with ads
<nicolas17> Soni: canonical was making its own desktop environment, asahi literally uses Arch repositories so the desktop environments there aren't even modified
<marcan> we don't develop desktop environments
<Zopolis4> ik canonical sucks but what was this de stuff?
<nicolas17> Zopolis4: the desktop search feature sent searches to a server to give amazon shopping results and other stuff
<Zopolis4> oh dear
<Zopolis4> i thought it was gonna be like file explorer ads in windows 11
<Soni> okay
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<chadmed> [37335.181096] apple-dcp 38bc00000.dcp: 10 Celebrities Who Scrub Up Well... You Won't BELIEVE Number 7!!!!!
<chadmed> yeah.... not happening
<chadmed> actually thats just nightmarish enough that i give it about 2 years before some downstream android kernel does this
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<marcan> chadmed: technically apple themselves could do that via DCP syslogs :p
<marcan> then we'll need ublock.ko
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<chadmed> the way in which people seem ready to accept kernel-level anticheat like it's nothing, it wouldnt surprise me if someone "innovates" kernel-level ad blocking
<Zopolis4> yeah i thought kernel anticheat was a joke when i first heard about it
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<chadmed> i am under the impression that its 99% a marketing gimmick that publishers have imposed in response to the negative perception of VAC
<chadmed> "oh look we take cheating seriously unlike valve! we take it so seriously that you cant play our game unless you give us arbitrary memory and IO access to your entire system"
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<chadmed> im quite disappointed that more publishers havent taken the heuristic approach more seriously, it's actually worked wonders for VAC
<chadmed> it would be even more effective if they gave it authority to hand out bans for high confidence cases (e.g. spinbots) because as it stands the human verfication process is currently clogged up with rage hackers
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<dsharshakov> And there epoxy-filled keyboards with ARM TrustZone-powered controllers go! /s
<dsharshakov> since actually anti-cheat also needs prevent you from using USB-HID virtual input devices. So please prepare your money for a keyboard with a HSM-based remote attestation and X.509 certificates. Also having a unique and remotely readable SN for better protection
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<chadmed> oorrrrrr we could just challenge client assertions about the game state a little more rigourously than not at all, and then verify heuristically that the game state was not cheesed
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<hays> How awful would adtech in the kernel be? Yuk
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<Ry_Darcy> Anyone have an M2 Mini running yet/are the device trees ready for same?
<jannau> Ry_Darcy: I doubt anyone has a m2 mac mini yet, they are only out next tuesday officially
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<jannau> I don't think anyone has started on the device tree yet. there might be some non-trivial amount of work to get the display out working (even simpledrm)
<Ry_Darcy> @Jannau, thanks for the info. Must wait. Contemplating purchasing one.
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<jannau> It probably won't take long. the m2 pro one might take a little longer since the 10gb ethernet option has delivery estimates in mid february
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<Ry_Darcy> @Jannau I was thinking of the poor man's version with 24GB :), not the pro. The 10gb ethernet I also do not need.
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<ChaosPrincess> 10gb shouldnt matter, its just a different chip on pcie bus
<jannau> I'm just mentioning it since it delays hw availability for certain persons
<Ry_Darcy> Fair enough. The M1 Mini I have at the moment is good enough for me. An M2 Mini would probably be overkill in my case.
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<jannau> I'm just saying "do not expect release day support". from all I can see they should be supported quickly though
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<eiln> gonna embed a 5sec sponsor countdown in the submission ioctl, genius
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<jannau> dcp could display ads left and right of the notch
<jannau> or a donation drive on the touchbar display to finance its driver
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<ChaosPrincess> good thing it is not connected to the touchbar (i think so) :P
<jannau> the touchbar is driven by a separate mipi-dsim controller. I ment the driver development for that should be financed by ads on it wikipedia style *g*
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<mkurz> In chromium chrome://gpu/ says "WebGL2: Hardware accelerated" but this page says itis disabled: https://summer-afternoon.vlucendo.com When accessing the page with "MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3 MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=330 MESA_GLES_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.1 firefox" it works
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