#haiku on 2022-01-08 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:00 <rennj> picture or it didnt happen, how about /dev/ptys! beos has it why not haiku https://imgur.com/QdWann9

00:00 <rennj> waddlesplash, xterm works fine on beos cause it has ptys

00:03 <andreasdr> Nice screenshot.

00:04 <rennj> yeah well thats old geekgadgets/fred fish's work for beos..still works on haiku minus xterm

00:04 <rennj> geekgadgets/x11 was nice for both amiga and beos

00:05 <andreasdr> Did Falkon improve lately?

00:05 <andreasdr> My Haiku partition got broken.

00:05 <andreasdr> Maybe I reinstall tonight later

00:05 <GriffintheFolf[m]> not sure, but I tried it with it was first added

00:05 <GriffintheFolf[m]> seemed reasonably stable

00:05 <andreasdr> (It was not Haikus fault, some Linux installation broke my Haiku hard drive)

00:06 <andreasdr> Is this UEFI bug fixed?

00:06 <andreasdr> Black screen

00:06 <andreasdr> Wait Ill check

00:06 <GriffintheFolf[m]> Linux is the reason why I'm having such trouble porting software

00:06 <GriffintheFolf[m]> the GNUstep libraries (only the base, the GUI may not even work), the stupid thing hates being mangled into custom paths

00:06 <andreasdr> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17375

00:07 <andreasdr> Ok. Not yet fixed. So I will use beta 3 uefi boot loader

00:07 <GriffintheFolf[m]> furthermore I'm not even sure what paths are most applicable for what

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00:45 <AlienSoldier> GriffintheFolf[m] Falkon is still only 64bit, i still wait for a 32bit compile

00:51 <GriffintheFolf[m]> looking at the recipe for Falkon, it could work on x86, but is not tested

00:51 <AlienSoldier> well, i sure cna test it :)

00:52 <AlienSoldier> *can

00:52 <GriffintheFolf[m]> I don't see why it wouldn't work, give it a try!

00:52 <AlienSoldier> i am clueless as to how compile things

00:52 <GriffintheFolf[m]> in most cases, you shouldn't need to

00:53 <GriffintheFolf[m]> try running "pkgman install falkon"

00:53 <AlienSoldier> i was an assembler guy that barely made the jump tp C and they lost me in C++

00:53 <AlienSoldier> on PC they even lost me in extended memory mode

00:54 <AlienSoldier> really, that i can try.

00:54 <GriffintheFolf[m]> my bad, I guess you will have to compile it, the depot doesn't say there's a 32-bit prebuilt

00:54 <AlienSoldier> *** Failed to find a match for "falkon": Name not found

00:54 <GriffintheFolf[m]> yeah that was what I was saying

00:55 <GriffintheFolf[m]> there's a guide about using HaikuPorter better than I could explain it, you should check that

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00:56 <AlienSoldier> i was thinking original porter wanted to make it more stable before compiling a 32 bit, but it is starting to be long by now.

00:57 <AlienSoldier> perhaps i should get Begasus to do it, my last request for him was Tecnoballz and he complied it in 10 sec.

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01:42 <Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://git.io/J93iK

01:42 <Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] leavengood 08c7b14 - Add the 2020 financial report

01:48 <augiedoggie> hm, the text outline on my desktop icons is offset and drawing strangely

01:48 <augiedoggie> i thought there was a ticket for that but i don't see it

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02:45 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55769] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d66430ec52ad+%5E910ebfc4f5c2

02:45 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a5404eb57fbe - XHCI: Use B_PRI macros in one TRACE.

02:45 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d66430ec52ad - XHCI: Add missing set-address delay.

03:05 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev55770] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4ec4055399f9+%5Ed66430ec52ad

03:05 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] edd341717206 - BBitmap: Introduce ImportBits variants that take BSizes.

03:05 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 644c29d069d2 - Adjust all in-tree applications after BBitmap::ImportBits API changes.

03:05 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4ec4055399f9 - BBitmap: Make now-deprecated ImportBits variants private.

03:18 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55771] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a8dc67c795bf+%5E4ec4055399f9

03:18 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a8dc67c795bf - XHCI: Print the actual error for some more things in AllocateDevice.

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06:53 <Begasus> g'morning peeps

07:01 <B2IA> (bronzie94) Mornin' begasus

07:03 <yann64[m]> Morning

07:04 <Begasus> morning bronzie94[m] yann64[m]

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07:41 <AlienSoldier> Hi Begasus, feeling for a compile challenge? Nobody made the 32bit port of the falkon browser.

07:41 <AlienSoldier> *port = build

07:43 <Begasus> a browset? :)

07:43 <Begasus> AlienSoldier, https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/38c6a4726766b46ffedc53288da7e7ce3a4fd8a4/www-client/falkon/falkon-3.1.0.recipe

07:44 <Begasus> not enabled for 32bit though

07:44 <AlienSoldier> i guess something is bloking the build like a missing lib?

07:45 <Begasus> I guess korli marked it as untested for a reason?

07:45 <Begasus> biab (dogs) :)

07:49 <AlienSoldier> dogs of the AMS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnBoOS7MQsc

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08:04 <Begasus> re

08:06 <Begasus> you play too much AlienSoldier ;) (didn't know that one) :)

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09:42 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/J9sT2

09:42 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f834c1a - ant_core, bump version (#6519)

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10:28 <andreasdr> Good morning!

10:30 <Begasus> hi andreasdr :)

10:31 <andreasdr> Hi Begasus

10:31 <andreasdr> :)

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12:07 <Begasus> trying to get conan (python) to work, so far already 3 new python packages involved :P

12:19 <andreasdr> Good luck Sir.

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13:52 * shaka444[m] posted a file: (480KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fQLCfGMidDErkRjMEvFNdfyr/BeOS_Programming_For_The_Beginner.pdf >

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14:40 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/J9soE

14:40 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 1829235 - QMMP: bump version

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15:52 <Anarchos> nephele your patch has been merged , did you notice it ?

15:56 <Anarchos> i would like to ask to core Haiku developers : what do you use as tools to develop ? My setup seems suboptimal to me : i use mainly vim, and http://xref.landonf.org

15:56 <nephele> Anarchos: I don't have hardware to test it on still, it's nice that you managed to finish it :)

15:57 <Anarchos> nephele it works perfectly for me :)

15:57 <Anarchos> nephele wow, you developed without hardware to test ?

15:57 <nephele> Well... it was broken wasn't it?

15:58 <nephele> I had a laptop that uses this method for the backlight, but i couldn't get the radeon_hd driver to run on it because it uses eDP

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16:01 <B2IA> (AGMS) Anarchos, I use BeOS and the BeIDE for editing. Vim or PE on Haiku. But then I'm usually writing code that works on both BeOS and Haiku.

16:03 <Anarchos> B2IA thanks, so we have same setup, though i am not really skilled in vim (which is a beast to tame)

16:04 <Anarchos> nephele anyway i finally managed to get your patch finished, polished and accepted :)

16:09 <ablyss> anyone else having no mouse/keyboard worky when booting w/ UEFI

16:09 <ablyss> s/no_worky

16:10 <Anarchos> ablyss sorry i have only BIOS machines.

16:10 <waddlesplash> ablyss: try upgrading to the very latest nightly

16:11 <ablyss> the total USB subsystem is off

16:11 <waddlesplash> slim chance last night's changes fixed this

16:11 <ablyss> maybe i turn off legacy usb support, frazzel sticks I don't knwo

16:12 <x512[m]> waddlesplash: I tested Wine keyboard input in Wine and it still broken.

16:13 <waddlesplash> x512[m]: not even ASCII text input? strange

16:13 <ablyss> haiku boots, loads great and fast, i see the clock working in deskbar, but all usb stuff is off, even my usb stick led status light off

16:13 <waddlesplash> ablyss: yeah this may be fixed by the most recent nightly

16:13 <ablyss> k

16:14 * x512[m] uploaded an image: (6KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LidpPEAUuAUQjccXAukatgYA/screenshot129.png >

16:14 <x512[m]> Supposed to be letters in QWERTY order.

16:14 <waddlesplash> well that's ... interesting

16:15 <waddlesplash> can you post your patches for WINE to haikuports, so I can look into it?

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16:18 <x512[m]> I currently run Wine without install from source directory. Adapting for installation need some work.

16:18 * ablyss downloading https://s3.wasabisys.com/haiku-nightly/x86_64/haiku-master-hrev55771-x86_64-anyboot.zip

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16:18 <waddlesplash> ablyss: no need

16:18 <ablyss> no?

16:18 <waddlesplash> you can upgrade existing installs using SoftwareUpdater or pkgman

16:19 <waddlesplash> if you installed from the beta, however, you will need to change package repos

16:20 <x512[m]> It should compile with Clang 12 installed, my Gists patch applied, `LDFLAGS=-lnetwork configure --enable-wine64 ; make -j4`. No `make install`.

16:20 <ablyss> thanks waddlesplash. where do I find this nightly repo info

16:21 <waddlesplash> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/updating-system/

16:21 <waddlesplash> be warned there's currently some strange memory leak bug on the nightlies

16:21 <ablyss> sweet, thanks

16:25 <x512[m]> In my winehaiku.drv I map BeOS scancodes to VK codes and it work good enough. Handling Haiku keymap is also possible with ToUnicode hook, but not done yet.

16:27 <nephele> Anarchos: kudos to you :)

16:27 <ablyss> thank im gonna try flashing the usb stick first... see if it even boots with UEIF enabled

16:28 <nephele> what memory leak?

16:29 <Anarchos> nephele thanks, but what for ?

16:29 <nephele> waddlesplash: for what hrev? I've been developing for some hours and i only have 2GB used

16:29 <nephele> Anarchos: finishing the patch

16:29 <waddlesplash> nephele: everything past some unkown point months ago

16:29 <Anarchos> nephele no trouble, really you did 90% of the work

16:29 <waddlesplash> nephele: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17463

16:29 <nephele> i'm something something 55750 or so

16:30 <nephele> (it sais 55740+18, but only because the tags were screwed somehow... i dont have that many local patches)

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16:38 <waddlesplash> well, there is definitely a bad leak

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16:38 <waddlesplash> running Qt Creator a lot seems to trigger it

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16:40 <PulkoMandy> maybe you're just running too many linux apps and bringing the linux bloat in :p

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16:41 <nephele> If i can't see the problem it doesn't exist :)

16:41 <x512[m]> Now I can also run some Windows apps. More bloat!

16:42 <Anarchos> PulkoMandy thanks for merging the radeon_hd brightness patch :)

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16:44 <ablyss> gonna have to sit this one out.. every time I mess with the bios CPU goes nuts.. .its working smoothly recently and i dont wanna break it again

16:46 <nephele> x512: With a patched wine in hp we can run sims2 on haiku before it "officially" runs on haiku, :D

16:46 <PulkoMandy> well I did only the easy part, clicking the merge button I think?

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16:46 <nephele> runs on linux, i mean

16:47 <x512[m]> nephele: What 3D API it use? Direct3D? Version?

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16:49 <nephele> direct3d9, but it needs more vertex shaders than wine exposes by default

16:49 <nephele> (there is a patch for wine for that though... for years :D)

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16:50 <x512[m]> Does it work with DXVK?

16:50 <nephele> Dunno

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16:53 <x512[m]> https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/issues/1347#issuecomment-575599307

16:53 <x512[m]> Seems work.

16:55 <nephele> I do have the sims 2 on DVD and cd, it may not work with the copy protection properly

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17:49 <Begasus_32> /Opslag/wip> conan help

17:49 <Begasus_32> Consumer commands

17:49 <Begasus_32> install Installs the requirements specified in a recipe (conanfile.py or conanfile.txt).

17:49 <Begasus_32> config Manages Conan configuration.

17:49 <Begasus_32> get Gets a file or list a directory of a given reference or package.

17:49 <Begasus_32> info Gets information about the dependency graph of a recipe.

17:49 <Begasus_32> search Searches package recipes and binaries in the local cache or a remote. Unless a

17:49 <Begasus_32> remote is specified only the local cache is searched.

17:50 <Begasus> looking good so far ;)

17:58 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55772] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6f62f4564133+%5Ea8dc67c795bf

17:58 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6f62f4564133 - boot/efi/arm: initialize TTBCR when starting the kernel

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18:13 <Begasus> heading out, cu peeps!

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18:47 <Ashutosh> Hello

18:47 <Ashutosh> I am Ashutosh GAutam

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18:56 <_Dario_> hello

18:59 <Ashutosh_> hello

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