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<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "trungnt2910: in addition to what..." <- Nice, didn't know that existed (Now I can add vmware_addons to all of my local images)
<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "DEBUG=1 jam -q libroot.so" <- It's still showing me assembly:
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<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: note that building with debug on places compiled objects in a different folder, one with debug_1 in the name
<waddlesplash> you have to use that file
<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "trungnt2910: note that building..." <- Yep, I already used that file.
<trungnt2910[m]> It's a big fat libroot.so that is nearly 4MB, instead of 1.5 like the normal oe.
<trungnt2910[m]> *one.
<waddlesplash> hmm
<waddlesplash> not entirely sure what's gone wrong here
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 2 commits to cargo-c [+3/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3b4cf21ad4fd^...35edafacdd62
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] linkmauve 3b4cf21 - cargo-c: New recipe
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 35edafa - cargo-c, bump version
<Not-8690> [haikuports] Begasus created branch cargo-c - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports
<Begasus> bugger
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus deleted branch cargo-c
<Not-8690> [haikuports] Begasus deleted branch cargo-c - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports
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<repetitivestrain> hello all, i've got a small question about negotiated drag-and-drop
<repetitivestrain> is there any way to determine if the drop failed, i.e. no response will be sent to the drag message?
<Begasus> maybe in syslog?
<Begasus> PR for cargo-c upstreamed and merged :)
<repetitivestrain> not sure what you mean by syslog
<repetitivestrain> i mean if i drag a B_SIMPLE_DATA message somewhere
<repetitivestrain> and wait for the drop to happen (the mouse button to be released)
<repetitivestrain> is there any way to know if the program that the message was dropped to isn't going to send a reply to that message?
<Begasus> out of my knowlidge, that's one for the dev's :)
<rennj> Lesson 20: Drag and Drop https://www.haiku-os.org/development/programming_with_haiku perhaps
<rennj> bebook also probably has more info..it somewhere out there
<repetitivestrain> i read the be book and the haiku api docs
<repetitivestrain> neither explain how to determine if the target will actually reply
<repetitivestrain> they just explain how to get replies should they arrive
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c66e0fe6ecae...ce91a2433b25
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ce91a24 - libgit2, bump version, drop x86_gcc2 (#6974)
<Begasus> Blender hasn't seen much progress there (commit was from 4 days ago?)
<Begasus> nvm, seems in progress ...
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<NaGERST> Howdy!
<NaGERST> What is lacking to get sound over hdmi to work? Many nvidia cards (most) use realtek sound chips that is allready supported.
<NaGERST> i do not know where amd get their hda/hdda chips from, but i guess it would be realtek again (considering that most motherboards have them integrated as well for the 3.5mm jack)
<NaGERST> i have heard claims of both "crystalaudio" (which i have never heard of) as well as creative.. but i find that rather unlikely, as that would eat into their own business.
<NaGERST> Crystal Audio was a product of turtle beach back in the 90's so that can't be it
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<rennj> perhaps try the opensound oss drivers from haikudepot, i use them in vmware vm anyway
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aplgithub pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56159] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=846745705084+%5E85344c112ca7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 846745705084 - HaikuDepot: Delayed Increment View Counter
<Begasus> + support for Haiku :)
<Begasus> only libgit2-sys needs to be fixed before we can use the latsest version
<Begasus> nielx[m], cargo-c should be good to go now, re-building rav1e with a recipe now to check :)
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<Begasus> reminder, don't use the cargo.lock from upstream rav1e (no SIGIO in the root), needs to generate the lockfile
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<Begasus> bbl
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<trungnt2910[m]> Any way I can include other packages in my locally built Haiku image, through `UserBuildConfig`?
<trungnt2910[m]> Tried to set up the HaikuDepot `current` channel instead of the `build-packages` channel, but it seems to conflict with the built-in packages.
<PulkoMandy> yes, but you have to manually put them in the generated/downloads folder first
<PulkoMandy> I think
<PulkoMandy> you can't switch to using current haikudepot
<PulkoMandy> but if the packages are already in downloads I think it will not need the repo at all and this should work
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<trungnt2910[m]> Seems like I cannot install packages that need a newer version of some dependency that's already in the default build image.
<trungnt2910[m]> For example I cannot bundle cmake as it requires a newer version of ncurses.
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<PulkoMandy> yes
<PulkoMandy> probably it's time to do an update of the build_packages repo
<trungnt2910[m]> Why can't that be done by a bot? (Something like GitHub's dependabot?)
<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "not entirely sure what's gone..." <- Do you have to actually build it on Haiku with a copy of the sources on Haiku for Debugger to work?
<trungnt2910[m]> Or are the source files included in the debug information?
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<repetitivestrain> apparently what i wanted to do with drag-and-drop isn't actually possible
<repetitivestrain> so could it be possible to put a be:action-like field inside messages with entry_refs
<repetitivestrain> for use by, say, the tracker?
<repetitivestrain> so the program initiating the simple drag-and-drop can specify whether or not the filet copied, moved,symlinked or trashed
<repetitivestrain> file gets copied, moved, symlinked or trashed*
<repetitivestrain> thanks
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<PulkoMandy> trungnt2910[m], the build_packages repo is intentionally updated manually because if we track haikuports directly, haiku gets build breeakage and other problems all the time
<trungnt2910[m]> <PulkoMandy> "trungnt2910, the build_packages..." <- Why don't you list the package versions directly in Haiku's source code, download the packages from HaikuPorts current, and have a bot check for new packages after an interval.
<trungnt2910[m]> If the build doesn't break the package versions can be safely updated.
<trungnt2910[m]> This is what many projects do with GitHub's dependabot.
<PulkoMandy> I think haikuports current has only the current version of the packages
<PulkoMandy> so you can't download a fixed version from it
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<matt1> hello, simply hello :0)
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<matt1> hi Begasus_32
<Begasus> Hi matt1
<matt1> hi, simply hello ...
<matt1> and, Begasus32 : would you like to send me an email => to talk about ...
<Begasus> don't have time for that matt1 :)
<matt1> ok, np
<Begasus> got enough email traffic already ;)
<matt1> in search for pen-pal friends ...
<matt1> or email-pal friends ...
<Begasus> pen-pal, that was long ago :)
<matt1> yes, a lot of time but beatiful ideas ...
<Begasus> Never did it, but I know the kids used to when they were small
<Begasus> small/young(er) :)
<matt1> i wrote 1 email / day to my brother ...
<matt1> now need to share with you ... ;0)
<Begasus> ;)
<matt1> you all are good boys ... fine ... :0)
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<Begasus> this could take a while (uploading a hpkg to github) ...
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<Begasus> reboot to 64bit
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<Begasus> heading out for a bit
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: yes you need a copy of the sources, however you should see in debugger "click to locate source file" not "source file unavailable" if it understood the debug information
<waddlesplash> hmm maybe the cross tools are using the wrong version of dwarf...?
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: and yes, two reasons for a separate package repo: HaikuPorts repo only has current versions not older ones, and we need a full repo file for dependency solving, we can't just download individual packages but we need to be able to parse dependencies. so either we have a repo file with all the packages we are using in it, or we'd have to download all the packages in the list every time instead of just the ones the
<waddlesplash> build needs
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<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "trungnt2910: yes you need a copy..." <- So it should work if I built Haiku on Haiku?
<waddlesplash> well, it works for me when doing that anyway.
<trungnt2910[m]> <waddlesplash> "trungnt2910: and yes, two..." <- Yeah, I understand now when you said it only has the current version, unlike other repos like nuget or npm...
<trungnt2910[m]> waddlesplash: I'll try it then.
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<NaGERST> What does the radeon driver mean, can i just add deviceid's for the 6950 and hope it works, or would it be VESA only?
<NaGERST> 7950 that is
<NaGERST> dang numpadless keyboards nowadays
<NaGERST> and damn those silly brains of mine... neither makes sense, what i ment was 6900XT
<NaGERST> i just read through the nvidia driver and found a 7950ultra (same as i have, a gainward model), i blame it on that
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ce91a2433b25...4b7b7e80156e
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 4b7b7e8 - sane-backends: bump to 1.1.1 (#6975)
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4b7b7e80156e...3cf3303fcf7c
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] linkmauve 3cf3303 - WIP: cargo-c: New recipe (#5534)
<Begasus> will have another look at this one in the morning, 64bit is building atm on buildmaster, 32bit failed (although building fine here (32bit nightly))
<ZoeLain> what is building?
<Begasus> cargo-c
<Begasus> mismatch on libssl on buildmaster?
<Begasus> weird, been at this one for about 5 days on 32bit, with success (and now 32bit fails and 64bit is still building)
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3cf3303fcf7c...1463cb1b911a
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1463cb1 - cargo-c, first attempt on pushing openssl version for 32bit (#6979)
<Begasus> didn't work, work for tomorrow ... :/
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<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps!
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<ZoeLain> currently experimenting with trying to get CataclysmDDA built on Haiku
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56160] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=25742b78fb8d+%5E846745705084
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 25742b78fb8d - nforce: Disable MTU changes.
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<ZoeLain> ugh it seems to be failing to find dgettext during cmake
<waddlesplash> probably need to install gettext package
<ZoeLain> gettext is marked installed in haikudepot
<waddlesplash> what's "dgettext"? a command or a library?
<ZoeLain> "determining if the function dgettext exists failed" followed by output with a "undefined reference to dgettext"
<waddlesplash> sounds like a broken check
<ZoeLain> oof
<ZoeLain> warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'dgettext'; expected 'char *(const char *, const char *)' [-Wbuiltin-declaration-mismatch]
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<ZoeLain> ok wait i have some thigns wrong here i think
<ZoeLain> CMake Error at data/CMakeLists.txt:34 (install): install DIRECTORY given no DESTINATION!
<ZoeLain> ok i think i need to walk away for right now before i break something lol
<ZoeLain> if i havent already broken something
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<Spaceboy10> testing, testing
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning.
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<Anarchos> hello
<itanium686> hello
* Anarchos has a question about interface_layout
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<AlienSoldier> waddlesplash about the no network i got just before the weekend, just updated and indeed networking is back.
<waddlesplash> :)
<AlienSoldier> netsurf might not have copy/paste or bookmark support but it have tab ordering :)
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<Vidrep_64> Hi waddlesplash
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<Vidrep_64> I've been having some issues with mount_server not wanting to unmount a NTFS formatted USB stick after it has been written to
<Vidrep_64> Known issue?
<ermo[m]> AlienSoldier: Yeah, just today I tried to drag a tab in Web+ and was pretty surprised that it didn't budge
<ermo[m]> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: is it really reproducible? is it still reproducible after a "sync"?
<waddlesplash> any errors in syslog? force unmount won't work?
<Vidrep_64> force unmount works
<Vidrep_64> I attached debugger to the running thread in this state and created a debug log. Useful?
<Vidrep_64> I can create a ticket and attach it
<Vidrep_64> done
<waddlesplash> syslog too pls
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