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<missMyN900> booted a Devuan live USB and ran xrandr: Haiku was right, the Richland laptop really does have a 1600x900 screen!
<missMyN900> very, very happy with that. It may be "weak" but at least it has a nice display.
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<Saijin_Naib> <missMyN900> "anyway, I will be installing..." <- That's my distro of choice 😎
<Saijin_Naib> What type of volume will you give Haiku? I gave it an non-preallocated 64GB qcow2 volume but Haiku is seeing the unallocated size as the volume max (so like 176KB or so)
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<B2IA> (bbjimmy_64) My system re-booted by its self.
<rennj> haha arm hell yeah dev tree and all the madness besides uboot https://artemis.sh/2022/05/16/everfrees-armferno.html
<rennj> good article of the hoops having to be jumped
<rennj> I fought the Rock64, and the Rock64 won.
<rennj> haha
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<bparker_> whoever runs that domain seems to have multiple personalities
<bparker_> they always use 'us' as a first-person pronoun
<rennj> i think is a she but im not up on the pronouns
<rennj> the wrong pronouns is very "problematic" as the kids would say...
<rennj> s(he) yeah thats the ticket
<bparker_> I'm guessing they weren't always a she
<bparker_> I don't believe in pronouns... only adjectives
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<rennj> what on the menu today Begasus and when are you going to automate all these builds
<rennj> jenkins i heard was good for that
<Begasus> poking around a bit with cargo-c
<Begasus> buildmaster are not for me :)
<Begasus> s*
<Begasus> that's up to kallisti5[m] and mmlr I think
<Begasus> k, let's try the Gentoo approach
<Begasus> think I'm on par on the things I wanted to do so far, now looking into some open issues/PR's (again) :)
<Begasus> still a bit unsure on lua, waddlesplash lua 5.1 and 5.2 have seen the EOL as far as I can see, no development there, 5.3 "probably" the last release and no development, maybe time to switch 5.4 to the default?
<Begasus> we could keep the libraries for the other and only supply devel for 5.3 and 5.4
<rennj> well besides gentoo recipes for build software, beyond linux from scratch has hints
<rennj> and of course probably the cleaner netbsd/pkgsrc.
<rennj> maybe the next linux i build i use pkgsrc for userland
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<rennj> lazy way it to just grab slackware binaries and build rootfs from like less 200pkg's just enough to bring up gui..then i add couple apps i want..
<rennj> i certainly did way more compiling in the 90's, but now its more patching..
<rennj> bloated code! it really is crazy the amount diskspace needed these days...
<rennj> less is more
<Begasus> well the prizes of disk space is not that high anymore to not go for larger space (and not worry about it) :)
<Begasus> bot 32bit and 64bit got 300GiB diskspace to use
<rennj> Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. ----
<rennj> yeah albert einstein
<rennj> keep it simple stupid
<rennj> 1968 C vs forth...and chuck moore was multitasking and running telescopes with his code..
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<Begasus> nielx[m], wakker? ;)
<rennj> Moore's programming career began in the late 1950s at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory with programs to compute ephemerides, orbital elements, satellite station positions, and so forth
<Begasus> doing a new build for cargo-c, will see if it still fails, if so I'll try adding your patch to our libgit2 recipe
<Begasus> we're a few releases behind there :P
<rennj> you dont have to be..if you had the buildbot doing not just os/anyboot foobar..but all the userland stuff..got to remove the human out of the picture as much as possible, autom8
<rennj> then it would be just tweaking your recipes when they fail to build/download remote upstream source moves..etc
<rennj> security patches when the CVE comes out...
<rennj> all that CI/CD the kids are talking about
<rennj> oof rust/cargo...the mozilla language
<rennj> Rust's major influences include C++, OCaml, Haskell, and Erlang ...more ooof
<rennj> chuck moore talked about "tower of babel" in that acm paper
<rennj> where we are at in computer software now..the complicated interdependence's
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<rennj> microsoft and github they have CI for projects
<rennj> course i would not trust them when copilot hoovers up all the data..make it smarter
<rennj> freenode prince/king should have done that to keep all the opensource/freesoftware projects.. on his irc network..rather than the channel take overs
<rennj> couple racks of servers, give out free compute power..to bunch of channels..
<Begasus> and now opensource projects scattered around on different servers (or vanished)
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<rennj> yeah man...archive.org need to pick up that slack
<rennj> wayback machine, hell mirror all that stuff
<rennj> wget/curl failure to pull the source luke!
<rennj> or opensource projects back doored with supply chain attacks
<rennj> not if but when it happens...
<rennj> gnu ftp servers hacked back in the day
<rennj> most people i see are using phones for general purpose computing...talking the simple folks/general population
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<rennj> they dont own tower or laptops..just have a phone
<rennj> old and young alike
<rennj> of course during covid people went out buying gear so they could zoom/skype whatever with family
<rennj> pc sales had a good year vs phones
<rennj> i see plenty of people do facetime also
<rennj> right from phone...
<Begasus> not me :P
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<rennj> this irc has longer keepalive then libera.chat..another 480
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<rennj> libera.chat timeouts sooner
<Begasus> haven't been there in a while, should do, scummvm is there and in progress of release schedule
<rennj> im on more channel on libera, then on oftc
<rennj> amiga,freebsd.openbsd.solaris.smartos
<Begasus> mostly only scummvm and pidgin (for libpurple)
<rennj> i was trying to get the amiga people to do finch/ncurse for libpurple
<rennj> amiga needs a good client..and terminal based ncurses is probably way to go..since amiga has ncurses
<Begasus> never used Amiga, if I did I probably would still use it :)
<rennj> i never owned an amiga, but i wanted to
<rennj> amithlon/amigaxl i paid $150 for in like 2003 for pc's
<rennj> linux or qnx both ran uae-jit
<Begasus> fidled a bit with qnx back in the days too, wan't that bad also
<rennj> 1985 multitasking and gui..audio/video ahead of everybody..and the platform still rocks
<Begasus> wasn't*
<rennj> i got ffmpeg on my vm amiga
<rennj> https://imgur.com/uGHLo23 amiga mp4 playing.
<Begasus> nice!
<Begasus> is that pure amiga or aros?
<rennj> pure amigaos3.9 from 2000
<rennj> 68k
<rennj> fs-uae
<Begasus> think I still have a vm for windows 3.11 stacked somewhere :P
<rennj> fs-uae on modern hardware is faster then real hardware by tons
<Begasus> fun to look at, but other than that, not very usefull
<rennj> i have from msdos--to win10..nextstep,amiga,beos,solaris,freebsd,haiku,
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<rennj> sgi irix i could run on mame i know, not sure of qemu-mips
<rennj> but mame can run irix
<Begasus> had Arch setup a while back, with enlightenment, pretty nice too
<rennj> qemu-sparc can run couple versions of solaris also
<Andreasraute0211> Hello how can i run qemu?
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<Begasus> from terminal I guess Andreasraute0211
<Begasus> never really tried it
<rennj> yeah enlightenment ...e16/e17..
<Andreasraute0211> *clap sound*
<skirst> enlightenment was the shit back in the day. that hits home
<rennj> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -enable-kvm -soundhw hda -net user -net nic,model=rtl8139 -hda haiku-r1alpha3-anyboot.image -smp 2
<rennj> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -enable-kvm -soundhw es1370 -serial `tty` -net user -net nic,model=rtl8139 -hda amiga.qcow2 -cdrom cdrom.iso -boot d
<Begasus> yep, first contact was with Elive
<rennj> better to run redhat libvirt/virtmanager gui
<rennj> rather then do command line
<Andreasraute0211> the Problem is " No accelerator foun"
<Andreasraute0211> *found
<rennj> you get a gui
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<rennj> if you want to debug though probably dont want to pass kvm to gdb..disable
<rennj> step through debug the kvm kernel module will be in the way
<rennj> aqemu ...android version qemu guess comes with sdk/ndk
<skirst> libvirt stuff has come a long way. basically don't even need oracle's bs on my systems anymore. vmware is about to be bought out
<rennj> yeah i would dump vmware if qemu had the virgl foobar
<rennj> vmware-vmx has accelerated opengl for windows,freebsd,linux,solaris still
<rennj> until qemu/virgl or whatever has stable acceleration im sticking with vmware
<rennj> i know it can do device passthrough also
<rennj> promox uses it..and people rave about gaming on it..but they have 2 video cards
<rennj> i only have 1 apu in this laptop does video
<skirst> i'm in the situation where 3d accel isn't a need. or even gpu. qemu/kvm with libvirt is the way. it will get there eventually
<rennj> i could save 60MB switching to it
<rennj> then my ramos/in-memory os would be 300MB.iso
<rennj> right now 350MB.iso and i can run everything else from vmware...
<rennj> i can run vm's without ever mounting harddrive
<rennj> all from memory..the vm is in memory and the host is in ram..nothing but dram
<rennj> normally i run them from ssd drive..but i dont have to..copy them over to ramdisk and run from there
<skirst> heh i used to do the same for games back in the day. load them into a ramdisk
<skirst> i've always had the ram to spare, and it doesn't do shit if it isn't being used
<rennj> https://imgur.com/9xzVdqp stable enough for me
<rennj> ive had 100day uptime on this 2015 craptop
<rennj> usb and 802.11ac can crash it
<rennj> like around 162 mating of usb device..sometime my usb stack in kernel will go down, or 802.11ac wifi will crash box
<rennj> the 802.11ac is outside kernel source...so
<rennj> it doesnt come with the linux kernel
<rennj> amiga had ramdisk and i was stuck on dos playing with emm386/himem.sys
<rennj> single tasking os vs their multitasking os with gui
<skirst> amiga was the best. got my start there, err, commodore systems in general. c64 brat :D
<rennj> and dosshell and windows 1.0 sucked
<rennj> .eu really had the amiga, you could not find them in stores in .us
<skirst> i grew up on nato bases ;)
<skirst> had access to all the commodore/amiga stuff
<rennj> yeah i played on my friend vic-20
<rennj> only time i touched commodore
<skirst> rom basic and eventually 6502 assembler. good times for a kid that wasn't very good at playing baseball
<skirst> d&d, metal music and coding. the simple days :D
<rennj> for sure
<skirst> still fire up geos on vice64 for the lolz
<rennj> im still keep track of amiga software
<rennj> amissl and ibrowse new release
<rennj> 1929482 May 24 23:16 IBrowse2.5.6-020+.lha
<rennj> 3481761 May 24 23:16 AmiSSL-5.1-OS3.lha
<rennj> just release other day
<rennj> i like to keep my amigaos3.9 vm uptodate
<skirst> i'm gonna buy a copy of 4.1 fe just for the nostalgia's sake
<rennj> i got here on fs-uae
<rennj> but its slow compared to 68k cause fs-uae has to do ppc emulation
<skirst> i don't have any of my old software, bit rot, or just plain destroyed
<rennj> https://imgur.com/OlFzA29 amiga 4000 ppc os4.1 2022
<rennj> i got software going back to 1997 anyway..
<rennj> i mean my nextstep and solaris 2.5.1 vm's are oldest system
<skirst> what about the new 68k vm going into the linux kernel?
<rennj> have not heard of that till now
<skirst> it's pretty new
<rennj> fs-uae and amigaxl on qnx...i have 2 amigaos3.9 vm's
<skirst> earliest article i can find, from last year
<rennj> https://imgur.com/HqTGcEF 2 amiga machines, one is vmware-qnx-amigaxl, the other is fs-uae
<skirst> can't hate on that workbench ui
<rennj> i did a netcat to nc termbin.com 9999 from my amiga...i can talk to the internet
<rennj> hah termbin already took it down...i got unix utilies on my amiga..fred fish ADE/geekgadgets from archive.org
<rennj> ls pwd sh awk sed grep find tar..all the stuff plus my amiga has x11 if i ever need it
<rennj> same x11 i have on haiku os...from geekgadgets
<skirst> the folks at archive.org are saints when it comes to tracking down old software. i'd bless them if i had a religious bone in my body
<Begasus> heh
<rennj> i cant be legal the software they have
<rennj> some companies IP
<skirst> you'd of course have a previous license to use the software ;)
<Begasus> had been looking for pixel32 (got the reg-key still), but couldn't find a download (although I should still have the cd here somewhere)
<skirst> but i found old demo-scene stuff i did in my youth, only the source code. archive.org provided provided turbo pascal. nostalgia itch soothed
<skirst> dosbox + turbo pascal = happy skirst :D
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<rennj> yeah really first ide is dos
<rennj> borland turbo suite of compilers
<rennj> turbo c, turbo pascal, and dosshell like ide. txt menu's
<skirst> gee whiz basic heh
<rennj> dosbox and 86box both have there use
<rennj> 86box can emulate 3dfx voodoo hardware
<rennj> only emulator i got that can run amithlon..qemu will run it but no hd
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<rennj> 86box can actually run amithlon where i could do an install to virtual hd
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<rennj> the old vpc from like 2004 can run amithlon also
<rennj> and 86box is continuation of that code
<rennj> 86box is slick emulator
<rennj> i was impressed by it..cause vmware will boot my amithlon cdrom..but never gets to install part..
<rennj> qemu can get to install part..but there is no harddrive to install to
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<rennj> i wonder if beos will run on 86box with actual sound that doesnt skip...
<rennj> only issue i have on vmware beos vm..the sound skips cause the built in jitter of beos
<skirst> or the sysclock doesn't run at 2x rate like it did on vmware for me
<rennj> yeah it runs fast
<rennj> by beos vm has vesa,sound,nic..but the sound is just slightly off..
<rennj> my
<rennj> 86box can emulate other hardware..probably would better than vesa
<rennj> s3 and 3dfx emulation..so it eat way more cpu
<rennj> perhaps ill play with beos on 86box..see if i can get nicer system than vmware beos vm
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<rennj> my nextstep 3.3 vm from like 1993 has complete support sound,nic,graphics..
<skirst> i'm gonna have to check out 86box as well. looks swell
<rennj> yeah its slick software but is a cpu hog compared to vmware
<rennj> emulation vs virtualization
<skirst> can't be worse than dosbox
<rennj> oh way worse..dosbox isnt hog on my box
<rennj> fs-uae and 86box eat cpu
<rennj> compared to vmware
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<rennj> compared to dosbox
<rennj> 1 whole cpu 25% of 5
<rennj> 1 whole cpu 25% of 4
<skirst> dosbox gets my fans going. but i have it set to 100mhz
<rennj> nah i barely break anything
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<rennj> https://imgur.com/WQfBNoB kings quest3 in dosbox
<rennj> 6.98% is not even registering
<rennj> fs-uae and 86plex is like 25% 1 whole core
<rennj> 4core/4thread amd apu
<rennj> dosbox,mplayer,vmware-vmx vm running in background
<rennj> no problem
<rennj> 23day uptime on 4.x kernel..
<rennj> my 5.1.11 kernel probably run it better
<rennj> 2019 kernel
<rennj> when i dumped amd fglrx closed source for amdgpu
<skirst> guess i'm just doing it wrong
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<rennj> wait to copy link
<rennj> see the copy link on imgur.com after paste
<rennj> you have to wait few seconds for upload
<rennj> then copy link to buffer
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<skirst> link seems to work. just a shot of dosbox running pool of radiance using a ton of cpu, the doing it wrong part
<rennj> i can see the screenshot
<rennj> but the /a/ is give away..like original link
<rennj> yeah it works
<skirst> ahh
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<rennj> thrender grone haha
<rennj> hp 11
<rennj> hit points
<rennj> or is it health points
<rennj> same diff
<skirst> hit afair
<rennj> ultima underworld smokes that
<rennj> and you can cast spell of levitate
<rennj> and break you sword hitting a locked door
<rennj> ultima underworld was ahead of its time
<rennj> lord british
<skirst> pfffft. bard's tale. :D
<rennj> UO online was also ahead of its time, and i think is still online making it one of the oldest mmorpg
<rennj> ultima online
<rennj> UO
<rennj> pvp and npc
<rennj> they had it first
<rennj> before everquest
<skirst> ultima series was dope though. EA before they got evil
<skirst> origin/ea
<rennj> yeah im kind of out of the loop on EA now, other than when southpark makes fun of them
<rennj> EA was great gaming company back in the day
<skirst> they went sports games where you don't have to be good at sports lol
<rennj> yeah the commercial i know "get in the game"
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<skirst> shareware scene was the best for games. kids these days will never know. only crappy spy on you bs from apple store or google play
<skirst> pay us for the game, and then pay us for the rest of it
<rennj> upload download ratio
<rennj> got upload some files before you can download that unknown game
<rennj> sysop/bbs days and compuserve/prodigy/aol days...
<rennj> xmodem,ymodem,zmodem,kermit..they missed out...
<rennj> or the ATDT modem commands
<skirst> i was there, don't remind me
<skirst> i ran a wildcat bbs
<rennj> nice i remember that software
<rennj> it was popular for sure..
<skirst> was just a portal for chat and rpgs
<skirst> like most bbs's lol
<rennj> yeah the zork like txt based rpgs
<rennj> follow skirst
<rennj> sneak up skirst
<skirst> walk into room
<skirst> say hello to rennj
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<rennj> welcome mmu_man abandon all hope ye weary traveler
<skirst> zork and zork2 was on c64 for me. wildcat bbs was dos days, win 3.1, win terminal. damn
<rennj> i went from dos to att unix to solaris..win3.11 workgroups i really only had to support for sparc users running WABI
<rennj> i ran it on wine though in 1997
<skirst> netware networking. bring it all back! lol
<rennj> https://imgur.com/3dU4gDw 1997 slackware wine rxvt
<rennj> thats my oldest screenshot of linux from 1997
<skirst> slackware was my first linux. all. those. floppies.
<rennj> now i wanted solaris at home but had to settle for linux
<rennj> nah..walnut creek cdrom for $50 bucks
<rennj> came with freebsd and linux and compilers vs solaris 2.5.1 in 1995 for x86 which was $600.00 no compilers...the choice was easy
<skirst> second linux, redhat 5 off the shelf from a best buy. along with a copy of beos :D
<rennj> i tried the 4.5beos release from some magazine
<skirst> i think i bought a debian cd from walnut back in the day
<rennj> then i paid for the shit...
<rennj> version 5.0 and 5.0.3
<rennj> beside gobe and the game
<skirst> for sure. still have my beos bible
<rennj> and i bought the beos bible
<rennj> i got rid of the books
<rennj> couldnt travel with all the dead tree weight
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<skirst> yeah moving sucks enough lol
<rennj> i paid for solaris 2.7/7 and solaris 8, beos, walnut creek freebsd/linux, and amiga amithlon/amigaxl
<rennj> i never gave apple or m$ money willing
<rennj> all my laptops came with winblows..so i paid m$ tax
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<skirst> i've paid for about everything except an MS os (OEM), and never had anything apple
<skirst> so right there with ya it seems
<rennj> games i paid for..those suckers always cost $50/60bucks 5.25 floppies didnt matter
<rennj> i held bard tales in my hands multiple times
<rennj> just wasnt willing to fork over for it
<skirst> i still have the box and manual. the disks are long bit-rotted
<rennj> pawn of prophecy i paid for
<rennj> ega graphics..and it had crashing issue
<skirst> yeah but 16 colors man
<rennj> but damn the graphics was nice
<rennj> cga to ega was big jump
<skirst> amber screen: /bin/park
<rennj> apache attack helicopter / gunship was another piece of shit...
<rennj> ea winter / summer Olympics didn't disappoint
<skirst> comanche on the amiga was cool
<rennj> yeah the amiga smoked dos cga/ega games
<rennj> bitmap brothers
<rennj> those 2 guys rocked
<rennj> shadow of the beast on amiga
<rennj> i wish i had that on pc
<skirst> even c64/128 games smoked dos cga/ega games. to hell and back
<rennj> yeah but doom vs gloom
<rennj> or quake
<rennj> haha amiga days were over
<skirst> yeah but that's all vga/svga
<rennj> and 3dfx
<rennj> quake glquake
<rennj> crazy capture the flag shit
<skirst> yep. voodoo2's i have in sli still work, glide drivers and all. glquake
<rennj> action quake was mod i loved
<rennj> lights! camera! action!
<rennj> right around time of pulpfiction movie
<rennj> throwing knifes
<skirst> quake 2 was huge in my day. dm matches could go for 24 hours and you didn't give a single crap. fun
<rennj> yeah see im sure i played it but by then its all blur now
<rennj> and of course when unreal came out
<skirst> game changer. id wasn't the only cat in town
<rennj> i still love the intro
<rennj> i also did daggerfall, and oblivion years later
<rennj> skyrim hah
<rennj> never played it
<rennj> but daggerfall and oblivion i logged some hours
<skirst> now all epic does is build stupid spyware, pay for the rest of the game later, shit. the unreal engine still lives
<rennj> see i refuse to join steam..i dont like being logged
<rennj> GoG games great..but i dont like online games now
<rennj> UO and everquest was last online games i played
<rennj> even doom3 and halflife2 i just solved single player mode
<rennj> counterstrike i did but that was before halflife2
<rennj> like early counterstrike
<rennj> not the stuff they have now..never played the fancy stuff now
<rennj> just cause 1 i like
<rennj> my laptop is to slow for newer stuff
<rennj> but vmware win10vm can run some stuff
<rennj> broforce is cool
<rennj> just cause 1 i run in vmware win10 vm
<skirst> i do find the steam deck interesting though. it's like a sega game gear in form-factor, but running linux with modern hardware
<rennj> bf1942 original
<skirst> broforce is life
<rennj> lets go bro! ahhhh
<skirst> paid for that on day 1
<rennj> space station 13,scrap mechanic,Raft, FTL
<rennj> ganes i would like to try
<rennj> games
<rennj> but online
<rennj> fuck that shit
<rennj> FTL is single player..dont need online
<rennj> but the rest connect to servers
<skirst> the single player experience is a lost art for sure
<rennj> well arcade games i got 1000's of now..neogeo snes.capcom,genesis, and just advanced mame
<rennj> archive.org has all the roms i need
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<skirst> the best... broforce... arnie with the chain gun, just unleashing hell. or mcguyver and his relentless tnt bombs
<rennj> https://imgur.com/L0NdwRO old gaming vm win10 consoles
<rennj> yeah i like blade and neo the matrix dude
<rennj> some of those levels when you get in the mech
<rennj> fly up
<rennj> i only think i got to level6 or so..before i deleted vm for more space
<skirst> logitech 310? i have the same one :)
<rennj> i play it and then put it aside
<rennj> yeah good enough
<rennj> the xbox controller was may more
<rennj> i was like logitech or xbox..yeah fuck m$
<rennj> bestbuy purchase
<skirst> the logitech has a physical switch too
<rennj> still working great couple years in
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<rennj> yeah the X or D on the underside
<rennj> it pain cause each emulator i have to map the buttons
<rennj> besides the weird directx/.net foobar i have to install for certain games
<rennj> guns gore cannoli isnt bad game
<rennj> risk of rain1 is cool
<rennj> risk of rain2 looks even better
<skirst> i've been through 3 310's. only one i like. does everything i need no stupid bluetooth or batteries
<rennj> nah this is usb cable..
<skirst> yep
<rennj> no batteries or bluetooth
<rennj> vmware vm takes ownership of it
<rennj> works fine..
<rennj> no delay
<skirst> always worked 100% on linux
<rennj> yeah linux sees it when inserted, but then it passes it off to vmware when i click on icon to take ownership
<rennj> i see it in the logs
<rennj> vmware can take ownership of usb devices and m.2 devices..easy...
<rennj> the pci passthrough is actual .vmx tweaks i would do in txt file
<rennj> when i play games, this linux vm i chat,browse on is usually running also
<skirst> i use a usb dongle for an n64 controller as well. great for that n64 emulation love. works great with dosbox as well. i like playing old flight sims
<rennj> so i have 2 vm's running when im gaming
<rennj> i never power this vm down..
<rennj> just make sure firefox chrome isnt mining coins for some website
<rennj> n64 i got mario3d and golden eye
<rennj> not much else
<rennj> n64-Castlevania - Legacy of Darkness (Europe) (En,Fr,De).zip
<rennj> well i guess i do have more than those 2 games
<rennj> you see openbor and he-man
<rennj> openbor i think is lame, but the he-man game rom rocks
<rennj> like the cartoon
<skirst> zelda on n64 for me. ocarina of time
<rennj> 32772 Legend of Zelda, The - Majoras Mask (U) [!]
<rennj> 32776 Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time (U) (V1.0) [!]
<rennj> got it
<rennj> haha
<skirst> :D
<rennj> never played it
<rennj> just sitting eating up ssd space
<skirst> do yourself a favor sir
<rennj> AVGN i watch him play it
<rennj> angry video game nerd
<skirst> but nerds we are, why else be here
<rennj> 12292 Star Fox 64 (U) (V1.0) [!]
<rennj> 13364 Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (USA).zip
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<rennj> yeah i guess i warezed bunch of n64 games
<rennj> but i only tried out mario and golden eye
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<rennj> 32768 Donkey Kong 64 (U) [!].z64
<rennj> cause developed on sgi gear
<skirst> gating off about archive.org and you warezed games! for shame!
<skirst> kidding
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<skirst> this stuff deserves to be preserved, not win10_x86_64.iso
<rennj> https://imgur.com/HuMUh6e how about arcades
<rennj> i-robot!
<rennj> i can fullscreen it..im just showing it in window mode
<rennj> https://pasteboard.co/JNyjeRS.png projectzomboid my suv habit
<rennj> lua/java game should get working on haiku
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<rennj> ahh pasteboard dead end
<skirst> best time i ever had at an arcade, in the 80's at a bowling alley. parents are both drunk as all hell. burgertime. found out that the coin sensor was effed and you could just rub one under it to get a credit. played that damned thing all night
<rennj> yeah i think i lost the screenshot.. i should have save it local, cause pasteboard went to shit
<rennj> i was hitting up arcade in 1999 at college town that still had arcade
<rennj> hard to find them
<skirst> shopping malls? lol
<rennj> yeah no this was arcade pool hall at pennstate college
<skirst> doom ipx lan tournaments could be found
<rennj> i did arcades also in san diego on some board walk
<rennj> played terradactile nightmare with VR helmet
<rennj> that was amiga machine running that VR game
<rennj> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xj7qPEUEq0 Dactyl Nightmare (VR FPS from 1991)
<skirst> afterburner, terminator 2 style!
<rennj> lots of arcade games came to consoles anyway...
<skirst> my jam in the mid 90s was tekken
<rennj> dude i got screenshot of tekken3
<rennj> https://imgur.com/ijS6e64 tekken3 haiku
<rennj> that is advanced mame running tekken3
<rennj> regular mame wont run it
<rennj> both aros-one and haiku using advanced mame run that rom fine, but normal mame wont
<skirst> nice!
<rennj> archive.org like mame romset 106
<rennj> its like weird older romset
<skirst> golden axe was my first arcade love. the dwarf
<rennj> yeah i have couple version of that, but the openbor emulator version is funky
<rennj> openbor really is like this weird emulator...
<skirst> i mean, as a kid, obviously pac man or donkey kong at pizza hut
<rennj> the he-man rocked for audio/video..but the gameplay is the issue
<rennj> openbor rom paks on archive.org..try out the golden axe they have
<rennj> its not like the arcade game at all
<rennj> https://imgur.com/8ngevha aros-one opensource amiga3.1 comes with tons of software
<rennj> and icaros is like even more
<rennj> aros-one is light weight version
<rennj> icaros is like 4x the size..just packed with software
<rennj> aros-one came with all those emulators
<rennj> no compiling needed
<skirst> ghosts and goblins, also a fav. turbo graphix 16 and splatter house, altered beast, etc.
<skirst> i need to check out aros as well, been meaning to do that
<rennj> yeah i have couple version of that also..
<rennj> ok bedtime for bonzo, nice chatting skirst
<rennj> 3:42am here
<skirst> bonzo goes to bitburg. i lived there :D
<rennj> https://imgur.com/Soy1Dvo openbor masters of the universe for winblows
<rennj> 55% of cpu being used thats 2cores
<rennj> i give that vm 2 cores out of 4
<skirst> nice chatting as well, rennj. hard to find people that appreciate the old shit these days
<rennj> visit ##amiga on libera.chat
<rennj> plenty of old skool folks hanging out
<rennj> yeah nice chatting skirst
<rennj> later
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<skirst> now i can't get it out of my head! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PFGtAW6vFE
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<skirst> it's hanging upside-down!
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<kallisti5[m]> Eew. No thanks to Jenkins lol
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<kallisti5[m]> Concourse is configured via yaml pipeline definitions. We can template out pipelines to be consistent for release builds (substituting branch names, etc). Builds take place within containers as well with concourse.
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<kallisti5[m]> Pretty much, every build of haiku is done with the exact same toolchain within the exact same container. Headers have the exact same timestamps matching git modification dates.
<kallisti5[m]> Honestly, concourse has a lot of quirks but has served us well. It's a huge improvement over our old buildbot python script mess. I've seen so many messy unmaintainable Jenkins ci/cd pipelines over the years.
<Begasus> that pretty much answers the question from earlier kallisti5[m] :)
<kallisti5[m]> At minimum, It was enough work to get where we are today we need a damn good reason to change 😅
<kallisti5[m]> Our biggest limitation on concourse is build notifications... Concourse doesn't support "state-change-only" notifications and spams us on every build result
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<matt1> i apologize 4 everything ...
<matt1> mercy ...
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<Begasus> collecting crate's for rust in a recipe ... oh joy (it's even worse then libhell)
<rennj> heh
<rennj> saw the answer to my question on the CI/CD
<Begasus> ;)
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<Begasus> done for today, cu peeps!
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<Andreasraute0211> hello
<BrunoSpr> hello
<missMyN900> hello
<Andreasraute0211> I get everytime the same message with qemu "No accelerator found". What should i do?
<missMyN900> hmm
<missMyN900> looked it up and seems like it has to do with your virtualization accelerator
<missMyN900> what architecture is your host running on?
<missMyN900> what CPU do you have specifically?
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56148] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6ba3c443a20d+%5E748b4883476d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6ba3c443a20d - atheros813x: apply fix from OpenBSD
<Andreasraute0211> bsd?
<missMyN900> just ignore that
<missMyN900> it is just a notification
<missMyN900> not related to your question
<Andreasraute0211> i know
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<missMyN900> what processor do you have?
<missMyN900> Intel? AMD?
<missMyN900> Broadcom (Raspberry Pi)?
<Andreasraute0211> Intel Dualcore
<missMyN900> which one specifically?
<missMyN900> that just means it is an Intel(R) CPU with 2 cores
<missMyN900> which doesn't tell us much
<missMyN900> is it a "Core 2 Duo (tm)"
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<Andreasraute0211> yes core 2 duo
<missMyN900> ok and you would probably be running Haiku x86_64?
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<missMyN900> hmm Core 2 Duo does have "Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡ Yes"
<missMyN900> are you using KVM?
<Andreasraute0211> i am using on real harware x86
<missMyN900> but you said you were trying to run Haiku in QEMU?
<Andreasraute0211> i am levaing now to search in the Bios. bye
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<Anarchos> missMyN900 i ran haiku in qemu on haiku host :)
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<Andreasraute0211> hello again
<Andreasraute0211> after my search in the deep of the Bios Settings i didn't found usefull.
<Andreasraute0211> but i know the cpu is capble to run Virtual machine.
<missMyN900> Andreasraute0211: so you are running Haiku natively and running QEMU on Haiku?
<missMyN900> Is VT-x enabled in the BIOS?
<Andreasraute0211> missMyN900 no. There is nothing...
<Andreasraute0211> and i am running native
<missMyN900> then, you will have to run QEMU without acceleration unfortunately
<Anarchos> Andreasraute0211 that's me who ran haiku in qemu on an haiku host
<Andreasraute0211> ?
<Andreasraute0211> Haiku-ception?
<Anarchos> yes
<missMyN900> I am going to run Haiku in QEMU on Alpine Linux
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<rennj> cat /proc/cpuinfo from linux would have listed it
<rennj> old core 2 duo's didnt have vt-x
<rennj> least i dont think they all had them
<rennj> actually maybe be they had the vt-x by then...cpuinfo would list it
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