<Not-8690>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 1c823a5 - QGIS: bump for rebuild
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
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<skirst>
hi Begasus
<Begasus>
hi skirst
<skirst>
how are the pups? :)
<Begasus>
busy by now :)
<Begasus>
4 weeks
<skirst>
nice
<netpositive>
morning
<Begasus>
morning netpositive
<Begasus>
biab
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<Letterus[m]>
hello everyone. I just discovered Haiku and have great joy exploring it! 🙂 thanks to all who worked on this!
<Letterus[m]>
especially documentation is outstanding great (if compared to other open source project on the Linux side)
<Letterus[m]>
it even booted on my ThinkPad X250 nicely and recognized the wifi hardware. but I it was not able to detect any network. anything I can do to help on progress on this?
<jessicah>
look for existing tickets for your hardware, and if none, create a new one with your syslog, I guess is first steps
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<Letterus[m]>
jessicah: thank you
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<jessicah>
I think there's a page or two on the website about submitting bugs
<jessicah>
like commands to run for providing useful info in tickets
<Letterus[m]>
yeah, gonna find this. just thought maybe someone is gonna say: yeah, we know this and are just fixing xy, then I would have waited or tested a specific part or sth
<jessicah>
the idualwifi7260 driver currently isn't working right since replacing with the obsd version
<Begasus>
I'm sure waddlesplash could use some additional information on that
<Letterus[m]>
Begasus: thank you. gonna do. think I used the nightly from 10th of June where it was not fixed yet. but I'm gonna test and report against the ticket mentioned
<Begasus>
you can update your running system in Terminal with "pkgman full-sync"
<Begasus>
mind you, things "could" brake ;) (it's still in development), but so far I haven't had much trouble updating the system (aside from a few times)
<Letterus[m]>
was booting from USB, so no problem flashing that again…
<Begasus>
that's an option too :) (default image size isn't that large also for updating)
<Begasus_64>
grabbing xcftools-1.0.7-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports_64/packages/xcftools-1.0.7-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus>
finaly something that actualy builds ;)
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<danboid>
Hi Haikuers!
<Begasus>
Hi danboid
<danboid>
Hi Begasus!
<danboid>
In the latest Haiku status report it says "Anarchos submitted a patch that mostly fixed PXE booting." So PXE booting Haiku doesn't work atm? Anyone know why?
<danboid>
I'd like to see Haiku added to netboot.xyz
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<Begasus>
not sure if that is merged yet, if Anarchos steps in you could ask
<Begasus>
err nvm, if status report mentions it is should be merged I guess :)
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<danboid>
Begasus: Maybe the Haiku git log will tell us more?
<danboid>
Begasus: Ah thanks! It seems the x64 build doesn't fully PXE boot currently according to that
<Begasus>
right
<Begasus>
I know he had been doing work there, but I never use PXE so can't check :)
<danboid>
Bit of a showstooper for my use cases but I expect it should be a minor thing to fix for those who know the Haiku kernel well enough, I'd hope
<Not-8690>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes cdd7171 - nomacs: bump for rebuild, minor cleanup
<danboid>
I've got a TV box set up at home which functions as a Netboot.xyz pxe server. I can PXE boot/install various Linux distros, BSDs and recover disks with it so it would be cool if I could boot and install Haiku with it too
<danboid>
It can install Windows too but I've not tested that yet
<danboid>
I should note that the docs to set this up are a bit crap currently but I've submitted a PR to fix 'em up
<danboid>
Anarchos: Its a cool tool! Saves me a lot of time writing USB OS installers. Be better if it supported Haiku too! Its a PXE boot menu for installing/booting various distros, BSDs, Windows etc
<Anarchos>
danboid yes, but installing from where, onto which partition/disk/computer ?
<danboid>
Anarchos: The process would be: * PXE boot into netboot * Choose Haiku from its menu * Boot and optionally install Haiku
<Anarchos>
ah i see : from their server to your computer
<Anarchos>
but how do you specify their ip as PxE server to your bios ?
<danboid>
Anarchos: You can use netboot without setting up your own netboot server, just by burning a USB stick that boot to their public netboot instance
<danboid>
I have set up my own netboot server because I like being able to use it without any USB sticks, customize it etc
<danboid>
netboot can download and cache the required images on your local server too speed up the process, otherwise it fetches the required images from the net
<danboid>
Thats another advantage of setting up a local instance
<danboid>
I'm using a £30 ARM TV box as my netboot server, running Armbian
<danboid>
An X96 Air TV box
<Anarchos>
danboid ah ok
<danboid>
Which I'm hoping I'll be able to boot Haiku on eventually
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<Anarchos>
one usb key to master them all :)
<danboid>
Yeah, its a handy tool for those who do lots of OS installs or run systemsecuecd etc a lot like me
<Anarchos>
as soon as i will finish my current task, i will look again on pxe64bits
<trungnt2910[m]>
I'm currently having a problem with an executable that does not handle C++ exceptions properly, due to `__register_frame_info` not being called for that image.
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<Anarchos>
I use load_image() to launch a server, listening on a local port. What is the right way to detect, from my client, when the server finished to initialize itself and its socket is really listening ?
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<grobe0ba>
Anarchos: try, try again until you succeed
<grobe0ba>
preferably with randomization reconnect times plus exponential backoff
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<Begasus>
g'night peeps
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<Anarchos>
grobe0ba i can block on read() its stdout , as it writes some log message when it is ready
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<grobe0ba>
which isn't in any useful if you ever decide to move the client somewhere it doesn't have that access. you're better off just attempting to reconnect until it succeeds. do at least put a 1 second timeout in between attempts so you don't flood.
<grobe0ba>
its the simplest, most robust solution.
* Anarchos
won't use such ugly algorithm as polling. Seems rather inelegant to his high aesthetics coding standards...
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<grobe0ba>
well, you'd best stop using web browsers, irc clients, basically every single network application and system on the planet
<grobe0ba>
because they all use "such ugly algorithms"
<grobe0ba>
not to mention, doing some wacky "grab an unrelated fd" thing is about as ugly as it gets
* grobe0ba
shrugs
<Anarchos>
why unrelated ?
<Anarchos>
i use dup2 just before spawn_thread to be sure they are related
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<x512[m]>
trungnt2910: Yes. Also symbols defining API/ABI version.
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