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<thomaslewis> Have there been any more reports of failed wifi on the latest nightly?
<jason123santa> waddlesplash, 177 boots fine
<waddlesplash> thomaslewis: yes. fix for some of them coming soon
<waddlesplash> jason123santa: yay, comment on the ticket pls
<jason123santa> sure
<thomaslewis> thanks, waddlesplash. I'll wait to update, then.
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<mbrumbelow[m]> waddlesplash: I was able to test 56177 on all my NUC's that have WiFi 6. It shows the wifi device in Network Prefs... excellent! No networks to choose. But the device show up on my Beelinks and Minisforum Intel NUC's... which is good.
<waddlesplash> probably the same problem as no networks in idualwifi on the new version
<waddlesplash> I have a change that may affect it
<mbrumbelow[m]> Exactly
<mbrumbelow[m]> Cool
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56182] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=802e16c55a80+%5Eca76d4c33634
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 802e16c55a80 - freebsd_network: Add missing store of the passed buffer length.
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<waddlesplash> mbrumbelow[m]: that may help ^
<waddlesplash> it may also not. based on some things Vidrep was describing it may be more of a deadlock situation
<waddlesplash> in which case I will have to just either find someone who can reproduce it and send them stuff to test or hope that my other hardware with this device reproduces it
<jason123santa> i just updated from 102 using the updater and it works
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<mbrumbelow[m]> waddlesplash: Ok, I will check it out.
<thomaslewis> What time are the nightlies built?
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<trungnt2910[m]> Seems like the newer GDB is not on HaikuDepot yet?
<x512[m]> trungnt2910: Yes. No new GDB available.
<trungnt2910[m]> What about this?
<x512[m]> Maybe GDB without Haiku backend that can't debug native local programs.
<x512[m]> Even without Haiku support GDB can be used for remote debugging.
<x512[m]> Someone can try to write Haiku backend for new GDB.
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<thomaslewis> Hello, Begasus.
<Begasus> Hi thomaslewis
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<thomaslewis> Is Paladin still in active development?
<Begasus> Not sure how adam is still active or not, haven't seen much passing by for a while
<thomaslewis> Ah, okay. I just noticed that it's saving new files with a text file MIME instead of source code.
<thomaslewis> Should probably be easy to find and fix.
<Begasus> last commit there 2 years ago
<thomaslewis> I saw that. He was active in Issue discussions last year, though.
<Begasus> right
<Begasus> if you could fix it try to upstream it, we could do an new build on haikuports with the fix included then
<thomaslewis> There's a PR waiting to be merged from Jan 23 (the fix for building on current Haiku revisions is just to add `#define _GNU_SOURCE` to AsciiWindow.h
<Begasus> :/
<Begasus> k, korli also commented on that issue related :)
<thomaslewis> This is odd. The only occurrence of "text/plain" in the Paladin/ directory is at ProjectList.cpp:188, which sets the MIME type of a dragged file to "text/plain" (if I'm reading this correctly).
<thomaslewis> Okay, so there's one more in the ErrorWindow code.
<Begasus> right
<thomaslewis> The error message is put on the clipboard as text/plain. So, I have no idea why the .cpp and .h files are being marked as "text/plain".
<Begasus> I don't use Paladin myself, but just looked at a rust file, also shows as text/plain in FileTypes
<thomaslewis> Created by Paladin or some other program?
<Begasus> so maybe it's not caused by Paladin
<Begasus> source file, no change (not opened also)
<thomaslewis> Are you using Koder as your text editor?
<Begasus> yes, Pe seems broken for me atm
<thomaslewis> Okay... I wonder if Koder is changing the mime on save... I just realized, when the file is first created, it's opened in Koder (default application for text/source on my system). After I save it in Koder, it opens in StyledEdit.
<thomaslewis> So it seems I need to pull the Koder source.
<Begasus> Kapix is your guy there (iirc)
<Begasus> needed to associate some files with Koder also, some still try to open with Pe (default)
<thomaslewis> Koder: src/editor/EditorWindow.cpp:89
<thomaslewis> Maybe... it's the only place that MIME shows up.
<Begasus> looks like it's known, but not fixed yet
<x512[m]> Begasus: Why Pe is broken?
<thomaslewis> It looks like what's happening is the file is being opened by Koder, and it's hitting the fOpenedFileMimeType.SetTo() call in the constructor, changing the MIME type. I'd be willing to bet it doesn't happen when you start Koder, then open a file after the EditorWindow is created.
<Begasus> Crashes on launch here x512[m]
<Begasus> 32bit nightly
<x512[m]> Crash report?
<Begasus> not yet, have been occupied with cargo-c
<x512[m]> And report here: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Pe
<Begasus> and maybe it's just me :) I'll try to save a debug report later
<thomaslewis> It starts on hrev56148 64-bit
<Begasus> yeah, had been looking into the recipe to see it's using the latest release
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<thomaslewis> I wonder if adding `if (fOpenedFilePath == nullptr)` before the MIME setting in the constructor would fix the problem.
<thomaslewis> Wait. That wouldn't work. fOpenedFilePath is set on the line prior to the MIME type SetTo call.
<Begasus> I'm no good on that part thomaslewis :)
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<thomaslewis> Begasus, what happens if you build Pe from source and run that version?
<Begasus> as mentioned, cargo-c takes up most of my time here thomaslewis , but have been thinking about it
<Begasus> it's ok on 64bit also here
<thomaslewis> looks like a segfault
<Begasus> I can work through recipes, on the other parts I'm a noob ;)
<thomaslewis> I'm not the greatest code monkey, but I can figure out how to at least read a lot of source
<Begasus> I manage that sometimes too, and seen a few errors passing by in the past, so some I know how to fix
<thomaslewis> I don't know how to track down a segfault though. Do you have any other weird crashes like that?
<Begasus> not atm
<Begasus> failed build for cargo-c on 64bit (mostly it's the other way around) :)
<thomaslewis> Pe doesn't take long to build. I'd build from source and test the generated binary.
<Begasus> will check later, build for cargo-c takes about 2 hours on 32bit
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<thomaslewis> Following the logic of initializing the App class through saving a file, it looks like fOpenedFileMimeType should get set to the existing MIME of the opened file on save. Somehow, it's not getting changed after the EditorWindow is initialized (the only place the MIME is specifically changed to "text/plain").
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<Begasus> Probably Kapix didn't figure this one out him selve too :)
<thomaslewis> I wonder if setting fOpenedFileMimeType needs to be moved to the OpenFile() method of EditorWindow...
<thomaslewis> Wait, it is there.
<Begasus> Only one way to find out I guess
* thomaslewis is very confused.
<Begasus> it's those little details that could be hard to track
<thomaslewis> fEditor->SetBookmarks(file.ReadBookmarks());
<thomaslewis> Maybe this needs to be in an if() statement to confirm the MIME type is returned...
<thomaslewis> fOpenedFileMimeType.SetTo(file.ReadMimeType().c_str());
<Begasus> 392 contributions in 2022 (not to bad on github) :)
<thomaslewis> There's no error checking in the reading/writing of the MIME type in Koder.
<Begasus> add it? ;)
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<thomaslewis> I'll look at it more tomorrow. I'll probably add a couple of alerts around the MIME-setting code.
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/848303b852dd...d0499f50fab3
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d0499f5 - libquotient: bump for rebuild
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d0499f50fab3...c4f517858169
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes c4f5178 - haiku_svg_icon_theme: bump version
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes cdd2076 - qcoro: add recipe
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<matt1> hello,
<matt1> we are free,
<matt1> freedom !!! :0)
<matt1> the soul was created free !!!
<matt1> ;0)
<matt1> the soul was created free to be free forever !!!
<matt1> ;0)
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<x512[m]> matt1 ?
<x512[m]> Religious propaganda?
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cdd2076d1c41...6ff096802093
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6ff0968 - NeoChat: add recipe
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6ff096802093...d7d89d5bc544
<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes d7d89d5 - kquickimageditor: add recipe
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<Not-8690> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 8938a8e - NeoChat: bump for rebuild
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<matt1> hello
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<cocobean> trungnt2910: GDB 10.2 compiles on Haiku R1B3 - still needs Haiku integration backend (as mentioned).
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<trungnt2910[m]> <cocobean> "trungnt2910: GDB 10.2 compiles..." <- I read your blog post lol.
<trungnt2910[m]> I don't think I have the skills yet and there aren't a lot of instructions on writing debugger backends either, but if I somehow decided to build a compiler backend for Haiku, I'd rather build one for LLDB instead of GDB.
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<mbrumbelow[m]> Yuio121266
<mbrumbelow[m]> @123123XCVB
<mbrumbelow[m]> Has anyone had luck with the network in hrev56182?
<matt1> hello, i am a Troll xD
<matt1> how are you ?
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<trungnt2910[m]> <matt1> "hello, i am a Troll xD" <- Hi Troll. Is your soul free?
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<andreasdr[m]> How is it going?
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<Begasus> thomaslewis, pe fails to build on 32bit :/
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<Begasus_32> cpp0: /packages/gcc-2.95.3_2017_07_20-2/.self/develop/tools/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-haiku/2.95.3-haiku-2017_07_20/../../../../include/g++/stl_config.h: Bad data
<Begasus> and a few more ...
<Begasus> issue filed upstream
<Begasus> hi andreasdr[m] :)
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<Anarchos> hello
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<Begasus> hi Anarchos
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<x512[m]> Are Haiku contributing rules documented somewhere (setup git ssh access, setup Gerrit etc.)?
<Anarchos> x512[m] yes
<x512[m]> Where?
<x512[m]> I can't pass Haiku web site navigation labyrinth.
<x512[m]> "Get source" naming is confusing.
<x512[m]> It is not get source, but how to contribute source changes.
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<extrowerk> i h
<extrowerk> i got a CH341A based uC programmer / USB2TTL tool ( https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nOdgC3mafRk/XHFYv7C9g2I/AAAAAAAAMSM/HdJTuGMQoksMmuayEwExqnTKFYFwf2n6gCLcBGAs/s1600/blackminiprogrammer.jpg ) sadly it isn't recognized in Haiku :(
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<matt1> hello
<matt1> hi shaka444[m]
<matt1> shaka444[m]: the only one who helps me ...
<matt1> thank you ;0)
<matt1> why not an iso to install to usb pen of size = 2 GB ?
<matt1> with 1 GB empty ...
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<matt1> i need : libreoffice + sanity + printer => haiku office
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<matt1> printer = brother hl 1210 ... tested with hpcl5 ... ok
<PulkoMandy> extrowerk, yes, no one wrote a driver for the ch341 yet
<extrowerk> PulkoMandy: i somehow expected it to be a generic device... But probably even then a driver would be required.
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<PulkoMandy> none of the usb serial adapters are generic
<PulkoMandy> we have specific driver for 3 families: FTDI FT232, Prolific PL2303, and another one from Silicon Image
<PulkoMandy> we also have a driver for the generic USB serial specification, but that isn't used in USB to serial converters, only in software implementations (phones pretending to be a serial port and behaving like a modem, sometimes bootloaders in microcontrollers, etc)
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<extrowerk> PulkoMandy: thanks for the hint, PL2303 is also a common adapter, i already bought one, possibly it will be easier to handle it.
<extrowerk> i got a vocore2, a micro-sized sbc. It came with patched openwrt, but i updated it to the mainline. It is great, but the openwrt official build doesná2t havr greóóóó
<thomaslewis> Begasus, have you tried with the newer GCC?
<extrowerk> It is great, but the openwrt official build doesn't have wlan enabled, and the device itself doesn't have any ethernet port (only soldering pads for it), therefore now i have to use a serial adapter to log in and recover it
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<Begasus> yep thomaslewis , other errors (one being libstdc++ (that could be fixed) and then linking errors)
<Begasus> heading down here, cu peeps
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<thomaslewis> Thinking about the Koder MIME issue, I could add a call to BMimeType->GuessMimeType() if fOpenedFileMimeType is set to "text/plain" just before saving the file..
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56183] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fb0214278266+%5E802e16c55a80
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4dda1c0369c8 - usb_rndis: use the "data offset" field instead of hardcoding it
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fb0214278266 - usb_rndis: fix handling of multiple packets in one USB transaction
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56184] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ed666fb497cd+%5Efb0214278266
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ed666fb497cd - usb_rndis: fix 32bit build
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi
<x512[m]> I managed to get Vulkan GPU rendering directly to screen without copy by using VideoStreams.
<andreasdr[m]> Thats the best news for today :)
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<andreasdr[m]> What about FPS? Some increase?
<andreasdr[m]> <3
<andreasdr[m]> If I may ask?
<x512[m]> 60 FPS vsync when rendering to screen.
<andreasdr[m]> jessicah: Pretty busy this days, I started a new job because of low money :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> jessicah: But I will test at monday latest on my old machine.
<andreasdr[m]> I will sell that machine very soon, better I test again before I do.
<andreasdr[m]> x512: Thats pretttttttty nice.
<andreasdr[m]> x512: Step by Step! Very nice.
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<x512[m]> ScreenConsumer use interrupt to know when buffer flipping is completed so it is synchronized with screen refresh rate.
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<andreasdr[m]> Super exciting. Is it still possible to turn vsynch off?
<x512[m]> Vulkan compositor is need to get windowed Vulkan/OpenGL applications without CPU memory copy.
<andreasdr[m]> We have in our engine now UTF8 + TTF!
<andreasdr[m]> Ah I see
<andreasdr[m]> So tdme2 can render now Umlauts and whatever. Hällöööööööö
<andreasdr[m]> No haiku activity in the moment.
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<x512[m]> Turning vsync off can be done in 2 ways (not implemented): 1. drop buffers if current puffer presenting is not complete 2. force buffer change and get tearing.
<andreasdr[m]> I think people with less performant graphics card turn off vsynch to have still 50 FPS instead of 30 FPS because they cant have 60FPS. So its kind of required. But then you have tearing and stuff.
<andreasdr[m]> Maybe not super important
<andreasdr[m]> But still a bit important I think
<andreasdr[m]> Any other Haiku news. Looks like ARM64 development is a bit paused currently.
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<andreasdr[m]> jessicah: Is it enough to test the newest nightly?
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<andreasdr[m]> Any chance that Haiku gets a key from f**king MS for Haiku SecureBoot?
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<x512[m]> andreasdr: No option to disable Secure Boot or install custom key?
<andreasdr[m]> My laptop is nice, but BIOS does just not boot from internal HD if no SecureBoot OS installation. Installing a custom key could work. But no idea yet.
<andreasdr[m]> Can Haiku actually boot from USB media? Think so. So this would work in the beginning.
<andreasdr[m]> I will do a bug report to the hardware vendor maybe that they fix this. They allow to disable secure boot but only for external HDs as far as I understand.
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<andreasdr[m]> humdinger: I know now why libharfbuzz is part of the OS while you have no RTL text rendering. libfreetype2 has the dependency to libharfbuzz, where as Haiku might even not use libharfbuuzz for RTL
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<andreasdr[m]> And libfreetype2 is obviously required for rendering glyphs
<andreasdr[m]> from TTF files
<andreasdr[m]> Need to restart my PC
<andreasdr[m]> RE
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