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<WildKeccak> I think bug #18444 is fixed inside the beta series, and not inside the nightlies. (And maybe more than just that bug). It's not my call to call it fixed or closed.
<WildKeccak> And #15440 is fixed, perhaps at some unknown time, because this computer hasn't been used for testing for a while.
<WildKeccak> And therefore I can't say when it was fixed because of bigger problems.
<WildKeccak> I think #18446 is invalid.
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<Halian> Evening
<HaikuUser> hello
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<Eugenia> I'm running Haiku on UTM QEMU, to remember the good old days of BeOS
<Eugenia> I've been dreaming of BeOS lately... so I gave it a go.
<erysdren> howdy!
<Halian> Eugenia: nice
<Halian> I had wanted to install it on my physical desktop, but https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18470
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<augiedoggie> have you disabled all CSM options in your BIOS?
<augiedoggie> ryzens are tricky to boot haiku on, it has to be EFI
<Halian> I don't remember tbh; will check in a little while
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<Halian> augiedoggie: CSM was already disabled. Haiku's bootloader freezes before on-screen log output begins, even with safe mode enabled.
<waddlesplash> that means bootloader/kernel handoff failed
<waddlesplash> or the bootloader failed to even start the kernel
<Halian> Well crud
<waddlesplash> very hard to debug that
<Halian> :(
<waddlesplash> certainly not my area of expertise
<waddlesplash> jessicah is the one who might know something
<Halian> I'm gonna try again but flashing the ISO using a different tool, just in case™
<waddlesplash> oh, hmm
<waddlesplash> what did you use before?
<Halian> Rufus v4.1
<Halian> I haven't had issues with it before but who knows
<waddlesplash> hmm
<waddlesplash> Haiku ISOs are a bit atypical, they're really "anyboot" format, which is a custom thing of ours
<waddlesplash> they can be booted via CD/DVD, USB, or just as a regular old hard disk
<Halian> Ahh
<waddlesplash> if Rufus tries to do something special thinking it's a plain "CD/DVD ISO" maybe things go wrong? I have no idea, I don't know anything about Rufus
<waddlesplash> I've used Win32DiskImager before with success fwiw
<Halian> Alright
<Halian> Win32DiskImager won't open for some reason, so I'm going to try Etcher first
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<Halian> waddlesplash: still no luck. Not with Etcher nor with `dd`; not with beta4 nor the latest nightly. (And Win32DiskImager still crashes silently when I try to open it. yay /s)
<waddlesplash> dd should be fine
<Halian> Hrm
<waddlesplash> ok, so something's weird about your bios I guess
<waddlesplash> no idea what's wrong with our loader that it can't handle that
<Halian> Weird
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<jessicah> Halian: you can get into the boot menu?
<Halian> jessicah: yeah
<jessicah> have you tried disabling SMP?
<Halian> Not yet
<jessicah> I would try that, and a few of the other options in the safe mode menu
<Halian> OK
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<Halian> jessicah: no luck getting Haiku to boot with SMP disabled, even in safe mode
<jessicah> hmm
<Halian> ^
<jessicah> shouldn't need "safe mode" enabled; did you try any of the othres? disable various apics, acpi, and ignore memory beyond 4gig?
<Halian> I tried them all
<jessicah> hmm, dunno then, kinda stuck without any debug output
<Halian> I'm sorry :(
<jessicah> it's not your fault
<Halian> Is there anything else (e.g. an advanced debug option) I can try or?
<jessicah> not sure; could try building the loader without switching to graphics mode
<Halian> I'll be honest, I have no idea how to do that .w.
<Halian> My computer has an MSI B550-A PRO motherboard and a Ryzen 5600X processor, along with a Radeon RX 570 GPU, for which I know I have to set VESA mode
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<jessicah> it's weird that we're having issues on newish processors/boards
* Begasus is over the moon with this one :)
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<Halian> I scurried off to try a fix that had worked for someone else on the forum (namely moving the flash drive to the boot order), and that didn't help for me; neither did disabling the TPM
<Halian> jessicah: is there a runtime way to force the bootloader to stay in text mode?
<jessicah> Don't think so
<Halian> :(
* Halian updates https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18470 accordingly
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c8e38bc0bc6f...738687530770
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7386875 - libSDL, remove not provided lib:libSDL (#8960)
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<Halian> ini
<Halian> Nini*
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/738687530770...b0eaf5f80e08
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b0eaf5f - sqlite, bump version (#8964)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b0eaf5f80e08...fd50882a755c
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus fd50882 - unixodbc, bump version (#8965)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/fd50882a755c...11c902a63e04
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 11c902a - sdl-sdr, add recipe (#8966)
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<Maston[m]> is it normal for Haiku to have screen tearing on intel?
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<HaikuUser> hi
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<Maston[m]> 😩 no luck trying to boot haiku from a folder like android, would it be possible to do it by booting an img file? i don't want to create a new partition
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<PulkoMandy> Maston[m], no, that's not currently possible
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* mrjones 'sings' along with Open up your heart and let my love come in
<nielx[m]> kallisti5: is there a ticket for package signature verification?
<kallisti5[m]> Should be.
<kallisti5[m]> Let me look
<Begasus> about 3 minutes to build coreutils on this one ... feels so good :)
<Begasus> the 32bit laptop is still running configure (started earlier then this one) :)
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<humdinger> PSA: You can help adding/updating translations for the next releases of
<humdinger> Thanks!
* humdinger waves
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/11c902a63e04...1cabecdf5b9a
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 1cabecd - kaiten patissier: fix game not starting, expand description a bit
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<BrunoSpr> Hello all
<BrunoSpr> My Haiku Systems work all... https://0x0.st/H19p.png
<erysdren> ayy Dead Kennedys!
<Halian> BrunoSpr: Nice! :D
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<Begasus> closing down for today, g'night peeps
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<BrunoSpr> night Begasus
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<BrunoSpr> n8
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<Maston[m]> can i install haiku in a qemu img and then boot it with grub? or i really need to create a new partition?
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<Forza> Maston[m]: how do you mean.? If you use qemu you can use a simple file as virtual disk to install Haiku in
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