<Begasus>
so seems you can't install packages build with gcc13 when it's not installed :)
<Begasus>
runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.29: version "GLIBCXX_3.4.30" not found (required by gerbera)
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<Begasus>
no matter what I do, can't get gerbera to play nice with upnp, with npupnp it woks ok
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Seems haikuOS has issues with putting the boot sector on my dell latitude e5420 (os testing laptop) or i have it set up wrong
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<Begasus>
KSPAtlas[m] hi, the OS is called "Haiku" not "HaikuOS" :)
<Begasus>
aside from that, did you setup multi boot ?
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<ksp>
hey
<ksp>
wait a second these are bridged lol
<KSPAtlas[m]>
<Begasus> "aside from that, did you setup..." <- No
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<KSPAtlas[m]>
I have done plenty of successful VM installs, seems it is not doing anything on this computer though
<KSPAtlas[m]>
I have double checked bios settings, it should allow for booting, but my computer just acts like there's no boot sector or something
<Begasus>
so it's a single setup, no other OS's involved?
<Begasus>
legacy BIOS?
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<Begasus>
ps, not an expert here :)
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<KSPAtlas[m]>
Yeah legacy bios
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Used both for install and boot attempts
<Begasus>
did you install the bootmanager?
<KSPAtlas[m]>
I installed haiku via the standard installer from beginning to end, intel partition table (cause i had tried that) and beos partition for haiku (~400gb)
<Begasus>
can you boot it with the install medium you used (thumbdrive or the like)?
<KSPAtlas[m]>
What do you mean?
<KSPAtlas[m]>
You can use the thumbdrive you install with as a bootloader for another haiku install?
<Begasus>
yes
<Begasus>
hit spacebar or shift to go into the bootmenu
<Begasus>
before the splash screen appears on boot
<KSPAtlas[m]>
I'll try that
<andreasdr[m]>
I keep space bar pressed until boot loader appears.
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
<KSPAtlas[m]>
I'm in the bootloader
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Only sees one volume called haiku, i assume that is the usb
<PulkoMandy>
You don't have a partition table here
<PulkoMandy>
I suspect you created one and then erased it when creating the filesystem (and missed the alert that warns about this, because no one reads the text in alerts in DriveSetup)
<PulkoMandy>
The other things to check: did you create the partition taole from drivesetup? If not, it may be a good idea to use writembr on the disk to make sure there is a knohn good mbr code
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Yeah i made it in drivesetup
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Alright hope it works
<PulkoMandy>
And your partition isn't set as "active/bootable", but if there's a single disk and partition I think this shouldn't matter?
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Even with writembr it doesn't boot, strange
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<KSPAtlas[m]>
Marked active
<KSPAtlas[m]>
I think it works
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Unless it's booting from usb, I'll see
<botifico-e32c8fbd>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8de40e9 - shine, new recipe (#9039)
<Begasus>
congrats KSPAtlas[m]! :)
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Also somehow my wifi card works, did not expect that
<Begasus>
nice! had to get me some wifi dongle to get that up and running here
<KSPAtlas[m]>
Testing audio with canyon.mid, also seems to work
<Begasus>
32bit buildmaster down ...
<KSPAtlas[m]>
talking from neochat on haiku
<KSPAtlas[m]>
anyway to get themes/icon themes on neochat
<KSPAtlas[m]>
why is the web logo green santa on a skateboard
<KSPAtlas[m]>
i mean surfboard
<KSPAtlas[m]>
aaaa
<nielx[m]>
Begasus: morning, saw you had success building gcc 13
<nielx[m]>
But yeah, maybe the jit should be a different package
<KSPAtlas[m]>
any way to get scrolling on touchpad
<Begasus>
yeah nielx[m], had to mv some things around for jit lib and headers
<Begasus>
just wanted to see if I could get it packaged, pretty complicated recipe there :)
<nielx[m]>
It looks like we are nearing the point where the Haiku can be built with GCC 13
<nielx[m]>
However, it does require at least the latest r1beta4, which I think the builders are not running (yet)
<Begasus>
if so and if we want to get jit in it's now time to do it I guess :)
<Begasus>
they do nielx[m]
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<nielx[m]>
Oh right! Nice :-)
<Begasus>
2023-07-16 08:19:41,692: upload package haiku-r1~beta4_hrev56578_69-1-x86_64.hpkg to builder
<nephele>
KSPAtlas[m]: That's for epiphany, or "Gnome web"
<nielx[m]>
I wonder if it then make sense to stop marking the recipe as experimental/untested and get the packages built. If we go for the separate jit, we can always push a v2 of that package
<nielx[m]>
recipe
<nephele>
the normal webpositive logo is a guy on a sufboard, so for gnome web it's a gnome on a surfboard ;)
<Begasus>
KSPAtlas[m] touchpad doesn't work here also
<Begasus>
ps, do we need secondary architecture on minisign? looks like overkill (and broken also)
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<nielx[m]>
Begasus: it looks ok, though I think it could be simplified a bit more. I can rework it a bit if you'd like, though I can probably only test starting Tuesday as I am away from home right now
<Begasus>
np nielx[m], it was just my 2 cents, there is no rush, just came accross this when going through open issues at haikuports
<Begasus>
heh, wondered why minisign was broken, did make install with the new version, current recipe manualy cp's things over ... :P
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<X11>
😅️
<X11>
🙂️
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<PulkoMandy>
nielx[m]: do you have access to netlify logs for the website? I think one of my changes breaks the website generation, the last 3 commits on theerepo didn't made it to the website
<PulkoMandy>
But I don't see a way I caneaccess the logs to see what the problem is :(
<nielx[m]>
unfortunately not that I recall, but let me double check
<nielx[m]>
Begasus: will start a little todo list for GCC 13 😅
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<win8linux[m]>
Tool for visualising large C++ codebases and their dependencies:
<botifico-e32c8fbd>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8f30163 - scummvm, bump version (#9040)
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<Begasus>
bbl
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<KSPAtlas[m]>
any way to make qt apps look more haiku style
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<jmairboeck>
Is it just me or has the recycle bin icon gained a beam across in a recent(ish) update?
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<helvedeshunden[m]>
hello
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<Udi>
DisplayPort with multiple screens; Will that work?
<Begasus>
all buildmasters lost :/
<Begasus>
not fully implemented Udi
<Begasus>
some discussions on the forum about it
<Helvedeshunden[m]>
Is there anything I should try if I get the Haiku loading screen but no progress from there, or is it time to try a different machine?
<Udi>
Thanks Begasus
<Helvedeshunden[m]>
Swapped from an AMD APU to an old Intel Mac Mini and this one seems to boot
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<augiedoggie>
ryzen?
<Vidrep_64>
Hi
<Helvedeshunden[m]>
Yes 2400G
<Helvedeshunden[m]>
I had a hard time finding anything about supported hardware so I went with a Linux friendly choice
<augiedoggie>
they can be tricky to boot Haiku on, it has to be UEFI mode, usually with all CSM modules disabled
<Vidrep_64>
I have an Acer Aspire that now will not boot after updating to the currently nightly from an earlier revision (April 2023)
<Vidrep_64>
Beta 4 boots Ok
<Vidrep_64>
Hi Begasus
<Helvedeshunden[m]>
Ok. Trying the Mac Mini for a bit. It seemed to work ok first boot. Then I plugged a USB wifi dongle in it. The screen went blank, and now I get a high-res version of the boot logo followed by this:
<Begasus>
right Vidrep_64, I try to pass some of the knowlidge I got on to the next generation :)
<Vidrep_64>
Hi waddlesplash
<Begasus>
not sure if it's always a good thing, but hey :)
<Vidrep_64>
Are you still doing work on contract?
<Begasus>
k, moved the rc for tuxpaint-config to the preferences in the menu jmairboeck :)
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<jmairboeck>
Thanks Begasus, I think it fits there better
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<jmairboeck>
I also put the PortMidi setup tool there (which has since been removed upstream ...)
<Helvedeshunden2>
Well, I'll be damned. Haiku just straight-up worked on my Atom-based device
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<Begasus>
bugger jmairboeck
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<jmairboeck>
Honestly, I think they are right that it is better that applications should offer their own UI for selecting which device to use instead of that ugly Java tool. Frescobaldi already does that, for example.
<Begasus>
right on that one! :)
<Begasus>
tuxpaint-config isn't shiny also, but it works now :)
<Begasus>
one of the rare ones that use fltk
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<Begasus>
just did a build on 64bit, works ok (just need to remove the "removal" for the *.a file (isn't there anymore)
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<fancy2209[m]>
Hello! I was trying to build ruffle under haiku but the build failed when it was building the libloading crate, is this a Haiku Rust issue?
* Begasus
runs ....
<Begasus>
no rust for a while for me :)
<fancy2209[m]>
Why?
<Begasus>
glad enough we got cargo_c out of the way
<Begasus>
been strugling to get rav1e to build/install
<fancy2209[m]>
I guess I should just wait for rust to get more of it's Haiku kinks ironed out
<Begasus>
mostly it should be ok, but there haven't been a lot of people working on rust related packages
<fancy2209[m]>
I was attempting to build this and it failed
<|cos|>
i'm not initiated in what the dependenies do, but chances are most (or all) merely needs an upgrade of nix
<|cos|>
as in, no actual functionality changes
<|cos|>
fancy2209[m]: if you're up for giving it a go, clone the git repo of some of the smaller dependencies which depend on nix, bump the version number of nix in Cargo.toml and attempt `cargo test`. if it passes, chances are a PR might get easily merged.
<Begasus>
closing down here, g'night peeps
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<|cos|>
fancy2209[m]: a good thing to know is that there is a https://lib.rs/ page for every crate.
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<fancy2209[m]>
Thanks for the help, I'll try
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<fancy2209[m]>
wait, but all the libs related to nix seem x11 or wayland related
<fancy2209[m]>
would these even be needed under Haiku?
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<|cos|>
fancy2209[m]: likely not. good find! then fixing the issue should need to involve less communication and more coding, or dependency wrestling
<fancy2209[m]>
i'm not sure how to do it tough :/
<fancy2209[m]>
I don't know rust
<|cos|>
fancy2209[m]: opportunity to learn! (:
<fancy2209[m]>
but where do I start?
<|cos|>
fancy2209[m]: you saw the deep link i gave to the nix crate? you'd probably want to do something similar, conditional inclusion/exclusion of code depending on target
<|cos|>
making sure no x11 crates are ever even attempted to build on haiku. maybe that's already the case, i dunno.
<|cos|>
then for the Cargo.toml, the x11-related crates needs platform specific inclusion there too.