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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5342626d42ab...5a4a36358cfc
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 5a4a363 - resourcer: code, build, and packaging fixes (#9043)
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<Halian> o/
<andreasdr[m]> Arrrrr.
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning.
<Halian> Henlo
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5a4a36358cfc...79d272d0e5e0
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 79d272d - resourcer: update git rev and adjust patch (#9044)
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<Udi> being on nightly build, daily reboot is needed. Is there a way to restore all apps from my previous session?
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<pairisto[m]> mornin begasus
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<Begasus> k, scummvm and tuxpaint (et all) bumped and upstreamed :)
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy 32bit failure on buildmaster for webkit update (not sure if you spotted it)
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<HaikuUser> hello
<HaikuUser> can someone help me
<HaikuUser> i want to install haiku on a exernal hard drive
<HaikuUser> but
<HaikuUser> haiku crashes when using seabios
<HaikuUser> how can i do it
<HaikuUser> and i can't mount it in a vm
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<HaikuUser> hello there
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<HaikuUser> hello
<HaikuUser> anyone here?
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<Begasus> nope, all sleeping :)
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/79d272d0e5e0...731a81d9d20f
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 731a81d - kcalendarcore, new recipe (#9045)
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/731a81d9d20f...4d92697cfcdc
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 4d92697 - Colobot: bump for rebuild
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57150] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d110ee8cc1e3+%5E71bba69f8a9d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d110ee8cc1e3 - Icon-O-Matic: properly pluralize command names using BStringFormat
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57151] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=425ac1b60a56+%5Ed110ee8cc1e3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 425ac1b60a56 - refactor: Swap %Ld for %lld in all format usages
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4d92697cfcdc...5248be0f0464
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 5248be0 - prison, bump version, update to KDE framework version (#9046)
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<Begasus> question from gerbera upstream: Is there a logical name for the device like wifi0 or eth0 because that is what libUPnP is looking for?
<Begasus> came accross some errors also about that with other system(s)?
<Begasus> biab
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5248be0f0464...0c409badd4be
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 0c409ba - ppsspp: bump version
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<PulkoMandy> haikuwebkit build on the builder just raneout of memory. Not sure what I can do about that
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<x512[m]> Add more RAM to builder?
<x512[m]> Maybe can be done from donations?
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<Begasus> x512[m], doesn't always work on 32bit :/
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<x512[m]> Cross build?
<Begasus> if someone could set that up, never done it here
<x512[m]> Also maybe setup kernel to give more address space to userland.
<Begasus> I think there is still some memory limitation on 32bit, probably not that easy to solve
<x512[m]> Turning off debug info generation may help.
<Begasus> I leave that up to you peeps :)
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<fancy2209[m]> Can you run OpenBSD programs on Haiku?
<fancy2209[m]> I saw it uses a FreeBSD/OpenBSD compat layer on the Wifi Page
<fancy2209[m]> I still couldn't get WIFI to work
<Begasus> tried? :)
<Begasus> that layer is for wifi drivers mostly
<Haikuhunden> Is anyone actively working on improving support for integrated Intel chips like the HD-series? (just to adjust my hopes and expectations)
<Haikuhunden> more specifically graphics acceleration
<waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: possible the builder just needs a reboot
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<ollix27> Hello there
<ollix27> anyone online?
<zard> yes, several
<zard> Haikuhunden: My guess is no
<ollix27> hello there
<ollix27> how's your day
<Haikuhunden> Aww. Which graphics hardware is best supported by Haiku?
<Begasus> no 3D accelaration afaik
<Begasus> only software rendering
<Begasus> but I'm no master on the subject :)
<ollix27> what hardware are you guys running haiku on?
<ollix27> just a quick question.
<Haikuhunden> ollix27: Right here.. 2011 Mac Mini server
<zard> Qemu (a vm) ;)
<Haikuhunden> just got it up and running today after battling EFI and partitions for a while :)
<ollix27> i'm using a hp g4 250
<ollix27> also zard, how did you get it working
<ollix27> i had trouble with seabios
<zard> Huh. I used the haiku iso and a qcow2 hard drive. Do you remember the error message?
<ollix27> well there was no error message
<ollix27> wait
<ollix27> i got a txt file with the serial
<ollix27> wait
<ollix27> ok so
<ollix27> it ended at
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<ollix27> mark_page_range_in_use(0x0, 0xa0):start page before list is free
<ollix27> hello there
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<ollix27> and it says something about not loading intel microcode
<ollix27> idk
<zard> Interesting... I don't have any ideas of the top of my head. If no one here knows, asking on the forum will probably work better.
<ollix27> i know
<ollix27> but now i'm running it on bare metal
<ollix27> and it is so much better
<ollix27> ngl
<PulkoMandy> do you have enough ram in your qemu? I think the default is quite small
<ollix27> i gave it 4gb
<PulkoMandy> should be enough then
<ollix27> btw what is a light game that you reccomend
<ollix27> for haiku
<ollix27> a 2d game*
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<Begasus> Edgar, FishFillets ... plenty around
<Begasus> jmairboeck ... Why didn't you addPreferencesDeskbarSymlink here?
<Begasus> didn't think of it (never used it before)
<jmairboeck> Begasus: It essentially does exactly what you did manually
<Begasus> yeah, probably a LOT easier too ;)
<jmairboeck> so there is still room for improvement when you update the recipe for the final version ;)
<Begasus> will check it out (but will be for tomorrow)
<Begasus> yeah! (I'm too still learning) :)
<Begasus> 'nough KDE for today ... :)
<Begasus> question (since some are alive now) :) "Is there a logical name for the device like wifi0 or eth0"
<Begasus> looks like upnp is using that instead of /dev/net/...
<Begasus> npupnp is fine with that
<Begasus> grabbing a bite first, biab
<jmairboeck> I think the /dev/net/... path is the logical name in Haiku. At least Network preferences and ifconfig use that.
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<PulkoMandy> yes, this doesn't work like on linux
<PulkoMandy> so it's always the full name for us
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<Begasus> OK, thanks, that's probably why gerbera doesn't work with upnp then
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<fancy2209[m]> Is it just me or does GZDoom Break the Icon Rules?
<Begasus> closing down, g'night peeps
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<|cos|> fancy2209[m]: i see the learning opportunity you had transformed into a chance to really learn rust, implementing gui glue for haiku. (:
<fancy2209[m]> |cos|: I do not feel prepared for that
<|cos|> fancy2209[m]: understandably. that would be quite a project. at least you sorted out what the reason was.
<|cos|> fancy2209[m]: you could always consider posting a PR with a two line addition: `cfg(target_os = "haiku")` + `compile_error!("winit currently has no backend for haiku");`
<|cos|> would take the "fun" away from the next time someone attempts building something depending on winit on haiku
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<jmairboeck> How can I convert an icon definition in rdef to an hvif file?
<jmairboeck> I have to go now, I'll read the logs later. Good night everyone!
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<fancy2209[m]> what's the equivalent to /usr from linux on Haiku?
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<x512[m]> fancy2209: No /usr on Haiku.
<x512[m]> /usr is a hack from early UNIX to store some files on another disk when one disk were not enough.
<fancy2209[m]> I am asking because I am trying to compile mono, but they only have linux instrctions so I am not sure what I should set PREFIX to
<fancy2209[m]> x512[m]: so why is /usr such a essential part of GNU?
<x512[m]> For non HPKG packaged software prefix would be /boot/home/config/non-packaged (for current user) or /boot/system/non-packaged (system-wide).
<fancy2209[m]> thanks
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<fancy2209[m]> is g++ included with gcc?
<x512[m]> Yes.
<fancy2209[m]> thanks
<fancy2209[m]> I remeber seeing this, so I wanted to check what worked and what would need changes
<fancy2209[m]> that's why I am compiling mono
<fancy2209[m]> * need changes for Haiku
<fancy2209[m]> man I am typing shutdown now so many times even tough it's just shutdown on haiku
<fancy2209[m]> <fancy2209[m]> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v..." <- > <@fancy2209:matrix.org> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABAjshkx8Sc
<fancy2209[m]> > I remeber seeing this, so I wanted to check what worked and what would need changes for Haiku
<fancy2209[m]> I just realized for this to work fnaify would probably need to be ported too
<x512[m]> <fancy2209[m]> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v..." <- > <@fancy2209:matrix.org> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABAjshkx8Sc
<x512[m]> > I remeber seeing this, so I wanted to check what worked and what would need changes for Haiku
<x512[m]> Isn't Celeste closed-source?
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<fancy2209[m]> <x512[m]> "> <@fancy2209:matrix.org> https:..." <- it is but it's made on C#
<fancy2209[m]> and it's made on a version who works on mono
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<HaikuUser> test
<HaikuUser> nickserv
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<rtsfdgazsdfgsdfg> testing 123 is this thing on
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<asbderdf> testing 2
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<asbderdf> nice chat
<asbderdf> Does anyone know what the TV application is or does
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<AlienSoldier> asbderdf was to work with over the air tv card or usb dongle i think. Never got compatible hardware for it. i think it was not ATSC compatible either (might be wrong)
<kveroneau> I hear that the TV application is a TV tuner, of which you will need the required hardware to use it. I'm not sure if it supports the new digital over the air or not though.
<AlienSoldier> it was for digital over the air
<AlienSoldier> what was the euro one? dvb or something
<kveroneau> Hmm, is there a list somewhere of compatible hardware?
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<asbderdf> Is there a reason that when I open preferences in tracker, in icon view, there are "gaps" in the grid?
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