robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
<Dylanger>
Anyone know if it's possible to install Fedora aarch64 via chroot from a live Debian Sid instance?
<Dylanger>
I can't seem to find any good guides out there, I tried extracting the rootfs from Fedora Workstation's raw xz but my kernel can't seem to locate the UUID of the root partition for some reason
<_[m]1>
why would you want to do that? fedora iso is not bootable?
<agl7>
Dylanger: Fedora iso is bootable! Put the iso on an USB-Stick and boot the X13s or another ARM64 Computer and install it.
<Dylanger>
Not quite the case on Chromebook machines unfortunately
<Dylanger>
I have my own working kernel running, I just need to install the rootfs somehow
<Dylanger>
The Fedora ISO isn't compatible with depthcharge bootloaders
<agl7>
Hmmm .. I have no Chromebook, so I don't know how you can install it.
<agl7>
Perhaps others know.
<Dylanger>
I'll try change the root UUID, I have an initramfs via dracut for my old Debian Sid install
<Dylanger>
Not sure if I need to re-generate for Fedora
<Dylanger>
I wonder if a U-Boot bootloader would solve all of this and just let me boot Fedora's ISO
<agl7>
Have you tried to boot the Fedora ISO directly?
<Dylanger>
Yeah it doesn't work, depthcharge doesn't support booting ISOs
<Dylanger>
I'd like to install Fedora, but I think NixOS works too, not sure if I should just try that
<Dylanger>
I like Fedora because it has SELinux enforcing and everything decently containerized
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<agl7>
Dylanger: Fedora I think is the open source offshoot of RedHat, right?
<Jasper[m]>
<agl7> "Dylanger: Fedora iso is bootable..." <- Oh? I missed this
<Jasper[m]>
I'm guessing you're talking about rawhide right?
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: Do you mean me?
<agl7>
I don't know what "rawhide" is!
<Jasper[m]>
agl7: yes!
<Jasper[m]>
agl7: It's the pre-release version of the next fedora version, it functions like Debian Unstable does at any point in time. Rolling release until a version freeze.
<Jasper[m]>
(iirc, there are people that know this better than me 😄)
<Jasper[m]>
I'm basically asking what image you tried (if at all)
<Dylanger>
Rawhide is like Debian Sid
<Dylanger>
Livin on thine edge
<Dylanger>
I got sick of Debian and want stable Fedora on this Chromebook
<Jasper[m]>
Dylanger: Yes, unstable! (Though somehow I thought Sid was just the next name for the next debian version)
<agl7>
Jasper[m] & Dylanger: What is the URL of fedora?
<Dylanger>
That's what I'll do to try get it booting under my Cherry Chromebook
<agl7>
Jasper[m] & Dylanger: Do you know if there is a special Version for the ThinkPad X13s Gen1 ?
<Dylanger>
No idea how the X13s works
<Jasper[m]>
agl7: I don't, but you're telling me fedora is bootable
<Jasper[m]>
That's why I asked
<agl7>
I have downloaded a version but I don't know if it is a Version for the x13s. I can boot it on the x13s.
<Jasper[m]>
What's the filename?
<agl7>
It's a little Time where I dontloaded it.
<agl7>
downloaded
<agl7>
I'am in the Clubhouse, away from Home. In this moment I can not look. My x13s is at Home.
<agl7>
And there I have the ISP's
<agl7>
ISO's
<Jasper[m]>
agl7: dw, just let me know if you can find it
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: I mean it's been about 1.5 months since I downloaded it. It may be that there are already newer ISO's in the meantime.
<Jasper[m]>
<agl7> "Jasper: I mean it's been about 1..." <- I don't know where that would be, that's why I suggested looking for the filename, maybe it has clues
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: I mean I have downloaded the stable version 38 or the BETA version 39.
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<agl7>
Jasper[m]: For ARM(R) aarch64 systems
<Jasper[m]>
I'm looking at the rawhide spin atm
<Jasper[m]>
May try it out later tonight
<Jasper[m]>
Jasper[m]: *rawhide kde spin
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: Where do you find the web page where there is written "rawhide kde spin".
<Jasper[m]>
If you replace rawhide with 39 you also get the beta iso's
<Jasper[m]>
The former are not listed on the download page, the latter are if you go to "alternate architectures"
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: Thanks
<agl7>
Jasper[m]: What is the difference between "rawhide" and "39"?
<agl7>
"rawhite" is from 2023-10-18 and "39" is from 2023-10-23 (today)?
<agl7>
"Rawhide" is "unstable" and "39" is "sid", or?
<steev>
sid is unstable.
<agl7>
ok
<steev>
rawhide is unstable, 39 is (currently an rc)
<steev>
i think?
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<Jasper[m]>
<agl7> "Jasper: What is the difference..." <- rawhide is rolling, so packages get continuously updated more closely to upstream. Fedora 39 is a beta for an actual release so packages will be slightly older, but well tested
<agl7>
steev & Jasper[m]: Thank you!
<Jasper[m]>
<agl7> ""Rawhide" is "unstable" and "39"..." <- sid (for debian) and rawhide (for fedora) are parallels in the sense that both serve very new slightly untested packages for software
<agl7>
steev & Jasper[m] : I will test it later at home! (Now I'am in the Clubhouse.)
<agl7>
I think I get the Beta version "39".
<steev>
i have nothing to do with fedora, and no idea about it (aside from guesses based on namings) so you don't need to keep me up to date on installing it :)
<agl7>
OK steev, sorry
<clover[m]>
6.5.8 pushed for arch users
<_[m]1>
booted (waw I feel so dumb that comment was the culprit lol)
<_[m]1>
yes loggin into steam is "finicky"
<_[m]1>
> an error occurred
<Ablu>
> rawhite" is from 2023-10-18 and "39" is from 2023-10-23 (today)?
<Ablu>
rawhide is built from a different branch compared to f39. So yeah, they are just like the Debian "unstable". The .iso may be older compared to f39 since they are just regulary built from the latest packages. As soon you run `dnf update` you will get all the new updates that happened after the .iso was last built.
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<holiday>
hello
<holiday>
does this work
<holiday>
??
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<steev>
seems to
<holiday>
this took WAAY too long to setup
<holiday>
im new to linux/irc and all these stuff
<holiday>
this*
<steev>
welcome welcome
<holiday>
i have a question tho
<holiday>
why is IRC still used?
<steev>
because it's low bandwidth
<HdkR>
Despite alternatives, it's still pretty good
<holiday>
does bandwith still matter in 2023?
<steev>
not everyone has a bunch of it?
<holiday>
i mean its okish if you are used to terminals and so on but yk
<holiday>
no photos no conversations saved etc
<steev>
also no need to launch a web browser so it works on low end devices with ease
<holiday>
i kinda like it but yk still curious abt why people use it
<steev>
because not everyone needs to share photos
<holiday>
feels weird
<holiday>
does the arm macbooks count as aarch64 laptops?
<steev>
nothing says you have to use it
<steev>
you'd probably want the asahi channels on here for the arm macbook
<holiday>
yeah
<holiday>
i saw
<holiday>
thats why i installed irc
<steev>
yes it's aarch64, but not really what this channel focuses on
<holiday>
okok
<holiday>
thank uu
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