00:50 <bamse> HdkR: received my shiny new nvme enclosure, hoping to do some debugging...but it just works on all my three sc8280xp devices

00:50 <HdkR> :|

00:50 <bamse> HdkR: the light does indeed go out 3-4 times dring boot, but it comes back every time

00:51 <HdkR> wha

00:51 <bamse> usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed Plus Gen 2x1 USB device number 4 using xhci-hcd

00:52 <HdkR> That's weird

00:53 <HdkR> Old BIOS or firmware issue maybe?

00:54 <bamse> mine is not new...but might be

01:02 <bamse> HdkR: i tried copy a few gb off the device...started off fine, then "usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 5"

01:02 <bamse> HdkR: so there's something there

01:02 <HdkR> Oh, that's spooky

01:10 <bamse> i'm not able to reproduce the same issue on the CRD

01:10 <HdkR> That's incredibly weird. Could it pull too much wattage once the SSD is loaded and it gets kicked off the bus?

01:26 <bamse> HdkR: sounds like a very reasonable hypothesis

01:27 <bamse> that i should be able to measure...worse is if it relates to the signal integrity

01:27 <HdkR> Wonder if my device since its BIOS and firmwares have never been updated from launch is just a bit more picky about this

01:27 <bamse> could be, or you have a hungrier nvme device?

01:28 <bamse> but does your system automount stuff of the device?

01:29 <HdkR> It's probably hungry because of how much capacity on it, but I don't even automount

01:29 <HdkR> According to this Tom's Hardware review it should idle at 800mw

01:30 <HdkR> Loaded peak at 8.68W

01:33 <bamse> peak might be a problem unless we negotiate more juice...but to get the partition table out should be fine

01:33 <HdkR> I could test this actually, I have a lower end device I could throw in it

01:36 <HdkR> Holy crap, it is a power draw thing. I used the same SSD as the internal drive and it just worked

01:37 <HdkR> Let's try a Samsung drive...

01:38 <HdkR> Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB also works

01:40 <HdkR> and to make sure it isn't a fluke, pull the drive out of the other dock and try again...

01:40 <HdkR> no light

01:43 <HdkR> So really it's the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB that causes issues

01:55 <bamse> i think i have a 970 evo plus 1tb in mine too

01:55 <bamse> and i could read a few gb before it failed...

02:08 <HdkR> I guess the real question would be why does early boot seemingly not care, and does Windows also not care?

06:32 <jhovold> dgilmore: thanks!

12:12 <Dylanger> <Dylanger> "I managed to get my cherry..." <- https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230816190427.2137768-1-nfraprado@collabora.com/#r

12:12 <Dylanger> I was missing this patch, should land in 6.7

12:14 <Dylanger> I emailed Collabora and got a nice response 🙂

12:14 <Dylanger> Running 6.6-rc4 now 🎉

13:19 <altacus_> enyalios: regarding steam. I was able to get team running with box64 & box86 at one point. Unfortunately, I had to reinstall and wasn't able to create it. If memory serves, I think the directions on the github outline how to get it working.

13:44 <push> does qemu-user not work due to the lack of virtualization?

14:03 <exeat> Another instance of the sluggish-mouse-cursor problem on the x13s, "fixed" by a suspend+resume cycle: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/5444847c/

14:08 <enyalios> altacus_: thanks, some googling looked like i should look into box64 or fex-emu

14:21 <Dylanger> <push> "does qemu-user not work due to..." <- (This is why I didn't buy a x13s)

14:21 <danielt> push: qemu-user doesn't need virtualization extensions... but AFAIK it doesn't shim native libraries which meaning everything running in userspace has to be emulated

14:27 <push> yeah, youd need to install x86 copies of all the dependancies, which for something like steam is gonna be a lot, but afaik, that would be the closest to making it "just work"

14:29 <danielt> push: Depends how "just work" is defined ;-). My experience with Zoom client (for example) is that while the emulation did appear to be functional correct, the client runs slower than real time which stops it being useful.

14:31 <robclark> exeat: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/msm/-/issues/33

14:37 <exeat> robclark: Thanks. Unfortunately I have no reliable way of triggering it either.

14:37 <robclark> same.. although sometimes vt switch seems to help

14:39 <enyalios> lol, sub realtime zoom cracks me up

14:39 <enyalios> sometimes my meetings feel that way

14:41 <robclark> danielt: if you were using qemu-user just to run x86 binary, why not use fex-emu instead?

14:42 <robclark> or I suppose box64.. but I haven't tried box64 myself so not sure how they compare

14:42 <danielt> robclark: Mostly curiousity. I use box64 when I really needed the client to work (although mostly the web client is enough for me).

14:49 <robclark> gotcha

18:30 <steev> Dylanger: thats awesome, congrats on getting your cherry

18:30 <steev> (working) just making the joke that irc only shows "i managed to get my cherry..."

18:31 <steev> qemu-user runs "fine" (slow af though, but that's no different from x86_64)

18:32 <steev> robclark: i use qemu-user because... i'm just building stuff

18:32 <HdkR> qemu-user also has the issue that its ioctl support is quite limited

18:40 <altacus_> Just compiled steev's 6.6.0rc4 kernel and can confirm that it works. In addition, I was able to set up the finger print sensor which works great!

18:41 <steev> finger print sensor should work with 6.4+

18:41 <steev> that was a patch from johan, not me

18:42 <altacus_> steev: yes, I've been going through the chat logs (slowly) and just realized this was added.

18:43 <steev> :) glad it works though!

18:44 <steev> i haven't tried it here because a) i'm against biometrics, and b) here, if i even install fprintd without enrolling, gdm just doesn't let me log in

18:44 <altacus_> I wanted to say that my x13s running debian gnome has been quite responsive compared with some of my intel based systems. I'm really quite blown away.

18:45 <altacus_> steev: I can imagine all the testing you need to do to get these builds up (and to field questions) so I'm happy to sacrifice my biometrics for the cause.

18:46 <steev> i'm just hoping we'll reach a point (and we will) where the patches i carry won't be needed anymore

18:47 <altacus_> I recently got the X1 Tablet Gen 3 and cannot find the finger print sensor driver for linux so when I saw that the x13s had it already I was quite stunned.

18:49 <altacus_> steev: I appreciate your efforts. I played around with getting linux on the c630 and it was really quite a nightmare trying to figure out what kernel to use, etc. Even today, I still have my c630 lying around doing nothing and although I want to install linux on it again, I just can't find good directions/kernels for it.

18:49 <exeat> It'd be fun (and possibly even useful) to assign finger-specific functions to the sensor, but I doubt that fprintd is amenable to that

18:50 <altacus_> exeat: I think fprintd can provide which finger is identified, it's up to the software to use that info (I would imagine).

18:52 <steev> i'm not sure; here, i use my c630-linux-6.3.y branch

18:52 <steev> and https://paste2.org/Zy1ywLW7 is my kernel config

18:52 <steev> it's not 100% for sure, we're still missing the ec driver and usb iirc

18:53 <steev> i can't recall why i haven't moved to a newer than 6.3

18:56 <exeat> altacus_: I haven't played around with fprintd at all TBH, it may well be more flexible than I think

19:12 <altacus_> steev: I may give it another shot. the c630 really is a nice laptop, battery life is amazing. Is it fully functional in linux (i.e. webcam, etc).

19:12 <steev> webcam does, but usb may or may not

19:13 <altacus_> steev: fingerprint scanner?

19:32 <steev> see my previous thing about not doing biometrics :)

19:32 <steev> i don't know the status of it

20:10 <Dylanger> steev: Haha cheers, I should script everything up so other cherries can be on mainline 😎

20:11 <steev> i have an mtk here, but i have no idea what it is tbh

20:12 <steev> it's a c330

20:12 <steev> ah, maple

20:12 <steev> according to wikipedia

20:31 <steev> also, fwiw altacus_, bryan is working on getting webcam for x13s, but it's gonna require userland changes too

22:18 <agl7> steev: Do you working at kernel 6.5.6?

22:25 <steev> it has been a whole 11 hours

22:25 <steev> is there something in 6.5.6 that you need?

22:25 <agl7> no

22:27 <agl7> I update only when on github.com/steev/linux is a new version of lenovo-x13s-6.5.y

22:27 <steev> makes sense

22:27 <steev> it came out 11 hours ago, i got off work 27 minutes ago

22:27 <agl7> It seems that 6.6 ist now the favorit

22:29 <agl7> ok

22:30 <agl7> come firstly at home

22:31 <agl7> Arrive home first

22:35 <agl7> steev: I'am going to bed. Here in Europe is it 0:35 am o'clock

22:38 <agl7> You don't have to hurry because of me

22:39 <agl7> Good night