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<vadeaway[m]> Yo, is there a list features that aren’t working yet? Or of those that are working? Also what is the advised distro for asahi?
<vadeaway[m]> I remember setting it up with arch, however i switched back to mac os
<vadeaway[m]> Due to lack of usability for my scenario
<chadmed_> the Feature Support wiki page is what you want
<vadeaway[m]> Appreciated
<kov> vadeaway[m], the alpha release blog post should have most of what you're looking for https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/
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<j`ey> vadeaway[m]: lack of usability in what aspect?
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<ktz_[m]> hey j`ey do you have the latest defconfig mps shared handy?
<j`ey> one sec
<mps_> ktz_[m]: you can extract it from linux-asahi apk
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<mps_> also this ^
<mps_> j`ey: thanks
<ktz_[m]> no actual changes for later kernels needed right? excuse me being so unknowing, this is the first time I attempt to compile and replace my kernel
<j`ey> ktz_[m]: easiest way is to probably modify the apk and rebuild with APKBUILD
<millenialhacker> I think you need Asahi kernel branch, by default it won't work on a vanilla kernel
<chadmed_> theres still a huge amount of stuff that hasnt been upstreamed yet, not least of which is nvme
<chadmed_> so if you want the machine to actually work youre best off just using the asahi kernel
<ktz_[m]> j`ey: you're right I think I'll try it this way. millenialhacker chadmed_ I'm using the asahi kernel, just trying to compile the latest changes
<ktz_[m]> thanks by the way
<j`ey> ktz_[m]: what you have from the apk is the latest
<ktz_[m]> oh, is it really?
<ktz_[m]> okay then I'll go through this another time then
<ktz_[m]> yeah this is my kernel as well, just thought you're running 5.18 already
<j`ey> oh right, no, that was just for benchmarking
<ktz_[m]> okay, thanks!
<mps_> ktz_[m]: it is rebased $somedate-next before first 5.18-rc is released so it have 5.17 in version
<mps_> but it is newer than 5.17
<ktz_[m]> okay glad to know, I assume I don't really need to mind about keeping it up to date since it is in the repo, right? I got interested in upgrading it in case it fixes a couple of issues and then trying to compile zfs against it
<ktz_[m]> I feel so guilty for reaching out for help haha
<j`ey> dont feel guilty!
<jannau> it's probably much closer to 5.18-rc1 than to 5.17. we will try to base on rcX tags going forward
<chadmed_> that is exactly what this channel is here for, no need to feel guilty
<mps_> ktz_[m]: I will try to keep it in sync with asahi changes
<mps_> ktz_[m]: current version is linux-asahi-5.17.0_rc7-r1
<mps_> upgrade to exactly this one to keep it correctly updated with grub.cfg
<mps_> j`ey: ^
<ktz_[m]> I'm just sure you guys have much more important stuff to deal with.. thanks for your time eitherways
<mps_> I forgot to mention this to you (if you use it and not build your own)
<chadmed_> eh im just staving off uni burnout and applying for jobs which have nothing to do with my degree, happy to answer questions :)
<ktz_[m]> chadmed_: good luck with that buddy
<j`ey> mps_: yeah I build my own, and dont use grub
<mps_> ktz_[m]: yes, I'm working to add xf86-input-mtrack to alpine, found it is somewhat better than xf86-input-libinput
<mps_> some swipes works now
<jannau> mps_: linux/asahi has tags used for the asahi linux package, appending those might be less confusing
<mps_> jannau: yes, I know. and actually started with this but later changed to -rc tag
<mps_> hmm, didn't knew there are tags with tarballs
<mps_> jannau: thanks for info
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<Chainfire> sven: did usb3 support for the new MBP's usb-c ports get fixed/merged yet?
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<sven> rqou found the fuses there and has a branch somewhere with the required DT nodes
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<bluetail[m]> Is it possible to run 2x 240hz @FHD through two usb c connectors?
<bluetail[m]> on Mac mini m1
<chadmed_> not in linux
<bluetail[m]> Is it on M1 Mac ? Or does it need thunderbolt instead of just usb ?
<chadmed_> well we dont have DP Alt Mode yet so you wont be able to run monitors out of the usb-c ports regardless
<bluetail[m]> but does it on bare macOS with M1 ?
<chadmed_> macos is perfectly happy to drive your high refresh monitors over dp alt mode or thunderbolt though
<chadmed_> i run two 165hz 1440p monitors out of a thunderbolt dock
<chadmed_> works a treat
<bluetail[m]> Ok. So no need for thunderbolt cables right?
<bluetail[m]> 10gbps usb c is enough per port ?
<chadmed_> monitors do not use the usb-c protocol, displayport is tunnelled over the connector
<chadmed_> s/usb-c/usb
<bluetail[m]> interesting
<chadmed_> it is displayport 1.4 so as long as your res and refresh rate is supported by that then youll be fine
<chadmed_> just make sure your usb-c to dp adapter is 1.4 too
<chadmed_> a lot of the cheap shitty ones are just dp 1.2
<bluetail[m]> it works already on my Lenovo t490
<bluetail[m]> but on Linux the intel gpu driver seems slower
<bluetail[m]> debian Linux
<bluetail[m]> i haven’t tested fedora
<chadmed_> slower in what regard
<bluetail[m]> I mean - no 240fps on https://Testufo.com I’m the web browser
<chadmed_> i915 and mesa iris are both faster than windows and macos for my use cases
<bluetail[m]> Ye i915
<chadmed_> the ufo test doesnt support vsync at all on linux afaik
<chadmed_> so it wont give you 240fps
<bluetail[m]> I know
<bluetail[m]> but then at least vsynctester shouldn’t fail
<bluetail[m]> It’s stuck on 160fps
<bluetail[m]> my monitor wants 240
<bluetail[m]> opengl 3.1 is chosen
<bluetail[m]> do u have a way to test that ?
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<willow[m]1> hi!
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<mps> is the chromium version 100.0.4896.88 fixed to work with 16K page size
<chadmed_> its queued for v102 aiui
<mps> ah, thanks
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<Tano70> sorry means that the next chromium .88 version that "pacman" will install will work by default on asahi linux?
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<jannau> no, chrome/chromium 102 is scheduled to be released end of may
<Tano70> ok thanks jannau
<Tano70> meanwhile today with the update to java JRE and openjdk to version 18.2 the java applet of a chat I frequent, when I try to launch it with icedtea-web it no longer works, in my archlinux x86-64 on Lenovo X1 nano this applet work
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<wouter> is there a suggested Linux kernel config file somewhere?
<wouter> ta
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<Cy8aer[m]> Did anyone try wireguard with the asahi kernel? I somehow cannot get any connection.
<Cy8aer[m]> Routing is fine, self pinging works
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<Cy8aer[m]> looks like it does not get further than the first handshake packages.
<Cy8aer[m]> I used a working setup from another machine for testing.
<Cy8aer[m]> (debian 4k kernel)
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<mps> work fine for me on both 16K and 4K page size, alpine kernel
<Cy8aer[m]> is the 4k alpine kernel the same as the debian one (so borrowed from the debian stuff or self compiled)?
<Cy8aer[m]> just to isolate the problem
<mps> Cy8aer[m]: it is not, alpine is tailored to be small with minimally needed drivers/options to work
<mps> and options/drivers to be usable for end users
<mps> if someone needs something/some driver bug/issue report could be created on gitlab.alpinelinux.org
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<Cy8aer[m]> thank you for the info. I no do classical debugging. Probably some crazy error by me...
<Cy8aer[m]> Ok now it works. I had some firewall problems in my own network.
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<r_rei[m]> Hey there, I will try to make a custom kali install on my m1, I didn't read the whole manual on asahi but do you guys have some "just don't do that" (as in running a calamares installer) that would make me have to wipe and reset all of my configs? Thanks
<tpw_rules> does kali have a working kernel for m1?
<tpw_rules> don't delete the first or last partitions
<r_rei[m]> No I would use asahi's kernel (assuming I can)
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