marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<nicolas17> kidplayer666: https://xkcd.com/1831/
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<Lestat9> Become a ghost person, get in a situation where the mind gives the perceived death signal, watch a scary movie alone in the dark,when it does just ignore it or pay no attention to it. -Copyright: TXu 2-037-947- Rest the scientists- ghostpeople@gmx.com
<Lestat9> Become a ghost person, get in a situation where the mind gives the perceived death signal, watch a scary movie alone in the dark,when it does just ignore it or pay no attention to it. -Copyright: TXu 2-037-947- Rest the scientists- ghostpeople@gmx.com
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<Lestat9> Become a ghost person, get in a situation where the mind gives the perceived death signal, watch a scary movie alone in the dark,when it does just ignore it or pay no attention to it. -Copyright: TXu 2-037-947- Rest the scientists- ghostpeople@gmx.com
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<kidplayer666> nicholas17: there’s always a relevant xkcd
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<Nefsen402> Woohoo! Even though this isn't for my machine, I'm sure the linked article will be an interesting read
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<kidplayer666> That’s amazing!!!!
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<kidplayer666> Im very jealous of MacBook Air people… as a MacBook Pro 13”, I hope it comes soon
<ChaosPrincess> isnt m1 air/pro basically the same chassis?
<janneg> maybe but j293/j493 have 4 speakers instead of 2
<ChaosPrincess> ah, ok, didnt know that.
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<spkrs> wow, speaker support is finally there, thank you very much! :-) it sounds great, i was looking very forward to it for long! :) congrats to your success and hard work!
<spkrs> is there currently already a way to make asahi speakers to sound like macosx with the fake 3d sound? i know marcan does not like that, but he mentions EasyEffects , but i dont really get that or know what things to use for this fake 3d sound? does anyone know, thanks! :)
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<Nefsen402> fyi https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/M1-Series-Feature-Support could be updated to note the speaker support
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<kidplayer666> Try updating it yourself :P
<kidplayer666> Idk, always heard documentation was a bit of a mess
<kidplayer666> And when it came to touchbar support it took a bit for docs to catch up
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<j`ey> I edited it.. but I think re-doing the whole page based on fedora might be better
<Nefsen402> I was actually typing out an entire thing for the notes section documenting it was only available for fedora
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<j`ey> or maybe just do it based on the asahi tag in the git repo, once that has actually been released
<j`ey> hehe: if (apple_quirks & TAS2764_SHUTDOWN_DANCE), dance party time
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<kidplayer666> Yeah, given that fedora now is the flagship, it might indeed make more sense
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<ydalton> woo! finally speaker support! but not for my model :(
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<ydalton> my model is not even listed in the list of asahi-audio
<holiday> i think it's only for macbook airs
<holiday> for now
<ydalton> no, only the m1 macbook air
<ydalton> i have an m2 air
<holiday> oh yeah i meant the m1
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<kidplayer666> Unfortunately
<kidplayer666> The tiny pro ain’t in there either :(
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<holiday> kidplayer666: hopefully it's the next one :D
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<kidplayer666> holiday: unless you have inside information that my model is close, don’t give me hope :/
<holiday> kidplayer666: i will call it "tech entusiast intuition"
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<kidplayer666> holiday: So no better than my sources :P
<ydalton> mine isn't listed, neither is the m1 macbook pro 13"
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<ydalton> yes, it's only the m1 macbook air
<j`ey> my guess is that next update will have everything
<j`ey> the models arent all that different after the first few
<ydalton> this update is testing the waters basically
<ydalton> but from what i could tell, since marcan played iwtlw for 20 minutes on a poor macbook air and its speakers didn't fry, i guess that was enough
<kidplayer666> Meh
<kidplayer666> The true test
<kidplayer666> Is someone listening to something random
<kidplayer666> And suddenly there being an earrap
<holiday> what is iwtlw?
<holiday> i cannot find anything on the web :P
<j`ey> i won the loudness war
<holiday> ohhh
<holiday> OOAAAAHHH
<holiday> ALMOST GOT DEAF
<ydalton> holiday: that's the point, it's supposed to be the loudest song possible
<ydalton> and because of that, it's marcan's favorite speaker stress test
<holiday> ydalton: i just hope my airpods are ok after that horror
<holiday> his neighbours must love him
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<kidplayer666> holiday: at this point they’re used to it
<holiday> I saw apple fixed ventura booting issue but it is not fixed on sonoma, are we sure apple will fix the firmware? I mean they normally should, but it's apple, idk how much trust to put in them
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<mort_> how hard would it be, hypothetically, for an end user to enable speaker support on a laptop that's not the M1 MBA now that it's enabled on the M1 MBA? Is it still disabled in the dtb on the other machines?
<j`ey> it's only disabled in the dt on the Apple Mac Pro (M2 Ultra, 2023).. which my guess is on oversight rather than intentional
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<marcan> it is intentional
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<marcan> mort_: I refuse to answer that question
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<j`ey> Ok, I guess the speakers in the macpro are more pro than the mac mini!
<mort_> marcan: very fair
<marcan> j`ey: they are, it's a two-way system
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<marcan> and I haven't tested it at *all* plus we don't support that model at all anyway so no point in enabling it there
<ar> it kinda feels like it's one of those "the more you need help with this, the more you're better off waiting" things
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<Snoogie> Hello everyone
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<mort_> something about Asahi truly brings out the worst in the (already pretty bad) commenters on HN
<mort_> like "This seems to be a problem being solved at too low level of abstraction" re: speaker support
<mort_> absolute complete head empty statemenst
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<psykose> the more you look the more that is about every project tbh
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<ChaosPrincess> orange 4chan is the "well, aschkschually..." dude in the website form
<holiday> guys what is HN
<ar> holiday: a website with a rather annoying (and often toxic) community
<holiday> ar: i figured that out from mastodon posts but how can i find it
<jn> "hacker news"
<holiday> i regret asking now
<holiday> ohhh i know this site
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<kidplayer666> Ah fun
<kidplayer666> “Too low level to directly interface with hardware on a driver”- is that the criticism???
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<ellyq> no, that's misunderstanding of how hardware actually works
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<psykose> venus is in retrograde so in hardware astrology you need a bit more jvm to do hardware interfacing presently
<psykose> the comments don't seem very accurate
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<cs> hey 👋
<cs> exit
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<Tramtrist> curious to find out music reviews of M2 air macos vs marcan linux™︎
<Tramtrist> actually all models genearlly
<Tramtrist> hopefully some audiophiles go nuts
<Tramtrist> outside of the excellent stuff already posted by marcan himeself
<Tramtrist> The m2 air had awful speaker/sound reviews whe it came out.. i wonder if it cause they simply arent tuned to be used in MacOS
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<kidplayer666> Maybe they had more spots of resonance than the M1
<Tramtrist> very happy we have competition in the macbook space for audio quality now. Thanks to marcan :) Before noone could ever say what was possible
<Nefsen402> it was always possible, it was software after all and it was done before. Marcan was just the one to step up
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