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<PaulFertser>
Nefsen402: yes, I clarified in the next message, you probably missed it.
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<cy8aer>
does mesa asahi-20231120 fix the GNOME problem?
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<holiday>
i think i will try arch asahi just for the hell of it
<holiday>
does anyone know how many people still maintain arch asahi
<holiday>
?
<j`ey>
cy8aer: yep
<j`ey>
holiday: 1-ish
<cy8aer>
j`ey: thanks
<holiday>
j`ey: oof, how hard is to port fedora asahi updates to arch? :P
<j`ey>
holiday: not super hard I guess. for example speakers dont work on alarm because you need to backport wireplumber patches, or wait for a new release
<j`ey>
but there's been times where random packages break on alarm.. so hnestly I wouldnt suggest it
<j`ey>
try an arch VM if you want to try arch
<holiday>
j`ey: i did, it worked ok-ish for that day
<holiday>
i also have a more complicated question
<holiday>
how can i learn linux? like where should i start if i want to idk update alarm with fedora packages and so on or maybe even contribute to it, do i need a degree at uni or i can self learn?
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<holiday>
thx ydalton will look at that video today
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<ydalton>
holiday: what exactly do you mean learn linux?
<holiday>
ydalton: somewhere around a year ago an arch update broke the bootloader and the people affected got an unbootable system
<holiday>
i that situation i would have to reinstall the whole OS
<holiday>
i would like to learn how to fix it
<ydalton>
you wouldn't have had to reinstall the OS
<ydalton>
chroot to the rescue
<holiday>
this is kinda what i mean by learn linux, or idk maybe learn how to maintain packages and help with the repackaging(until i learn enough coding to actually develop them)
<holiday>
ydalton: i dont even know what chroot is
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<ydalton>
how long have you been involved in linux?
<holiday>
one month or so
<ydalton>
eh no worries, i think within one month i had installed arch in a VM and wanted to have it on baremetal
<ydalton>
i learned a lot just by immersing myself in it
<holiday>
ydalton: done that
<holiday>
i have a windows+arch dual boot on my x86 laptop
<holiday>
but tbh i cheated
<holiday>
used archinstall
<ydalton>
lol
<ydalton>
if you really want to learn, spin up a VM and install arch the proscribed way
<ydalton>
that in itself taught me a lot
<ydalton>
and yes, in the normal install you will use a chroot
<holiday>
oki
<holiday>
hopefully it wont take me a full day
<ydalton>
nah
<ydalton>
and hour at most
<ydalton>
it's gentoo that will take you a full day >:)
<holiday>
yeah a full day of waiting :))
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<ydalton>
personally i'd love to contribute to asahi with code but
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<ydalton>
the people developing all have some experience with embedded and I don't :(
<ydalton>
and i know i am not learning this stuff in school so i'm looking on the internet to help me understand stuff
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<j`ey>
marcan: this is weird.. speakersafetyd doesnt seem to be starting anymore, any ideas on how to debug udev rules? or what I should look at
<j`ey>
I see nothing in journalctl
<j`ey>
(I just added a 10-battery.rule, other than that not sure whats different, going to remove that rule now)
<j`ey>
yeah, it seems to be the battery.rule I added..
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<j`ey>
damnit, it just started working.. while I was trying to figure it out. something is funky
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