marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<Tramtrist> will speakersafetyd work without systemd .. ?
<Tramtrist> should probably have a look at the code myself i suppose
<Tramtrist> excellent
<j`ey> shouldnt be too hard to port
<Tramtrist> ya
<Tramtrist> envisioning the slackbuilds which will need to be built
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<chadmed> Tramtrist: im going to write an openrc init script for it at some point
<chadmed> one of the design goals was to make it a properly behaved daemon on its own so itll be like 15 lines of shell
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<jb1277976> Guys how do I see what https://alx.sh actually uses or what is inside it ? If I click the link it redirects me to the main website if I curl then it downloads stuff
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<janneg> jb1277976: `curl https://alx.sh > asahi-installer.sh`
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<ivabus__> Hi, after an unsuccessful attempt to install Asahi (overflowing /System/Volumes/iSCPreboot), running the script alx.sh/cleanbp, and attempts to upgrade to 14.1 (I didn't notice, it was available before I tried to install Asahi) my MacBook Air J413 started randomly rebooting during the macOS update (while "Downloading macOS Sonoma 14.1", the crash log says about the SEP panic). Can I do something to it fix it?
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<ivabus__> And it also says "Firmware type: UNKNOWN SEPOS" in the crash log (https://clck.ru/36NXcM)
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<ivabus> Note: I was able to successfully install Fedora Asahi on the same system yesterday
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<aliciadevlinder> hi! open looking for ways to help out :-) have been following for a while but now I have time to devote
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<Tramtrist> thanks chadmed .. look forward to it :)
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<holiday> does qemu work on asahi?
<j`ey> yep
<holiday> it constantly throws me an error
<holiday> good to know its not bcs of asahi
<j`ey> if you provide the command you run, we can help hopefully
<holiday> j`ey: well i ran "sudo dnf install @virtualization" to install qemu and then i just select the "virtual machine manager" from the launchpad
<holiday> there it says "qemu/kvm not connected"
<j`ey> oh.. that might be using libvirt
<holiday> and when trying to connect it shows me this: "Unable to connect to libvirt qemu:///system.
<holiday> Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/virtqemud-sock': No such file or directory
<holiday> Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system
<holiday> Traceback (most recent call last):
<holiday> File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 923, in _do_open
<holiday> self._backend.open(cb, data)
<holiday> File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 171, in open
<holiday> conn = libvirt.openAuth(self._open_uri,
<holiday> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<holiday> File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 147, in openAuth
<holiday> raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
<holiday> libvirt.libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/virtqemud-sock': No such file or directory"
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<holiday> they said it's been fixed in a newer version, weird
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<j`ey> you'd have to see if it was backported
<j`ey> 'will be in 8.2 and likely backported to stable releases'
<holiday> yeah the last version is 8.1.2
<holiday> i could try to fix it myself with the info on the web
<holiday> but i dont think i can handle it
<holiday> so i will just wait
<j`ey> holiday: are you on f39? f38?
<holiday> f39
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<j`ey> hmm 8.1.1 should have that patch
<holiday> i was probably using the 8.0.5
<holiday> not sure which version does the dnf packacge ships
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<j`ey> should be 8.1.1
<j`ey> run qemu --version at the command line to check
<holiday> "zsh command not found qemu"
<holiday> ok this is weird
<j`ey> maybe that's the issue :D
<holiday> yeah most likely, dont know whats causing it
<holiday> i reinstalled qemu using dnf
<holiday> it said it was installing the 8.1.1 ver
<j`ey> that's not the issue, i forgot that the qemu binary isnt called qemu
<j`ey> qemu-system-aarch64 --version
<holiday> ooh
<holiday> yeah it says version 8.1.1
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<ydalton> holiday: ironically qemu/libvirt works for me now when it didn't for a while
<ydalton> holiday: is libvirtd enabled?
<holiday> ydalton: how do i check if it's enabled?
<holiday> afaik it is
<ydalton> `sudo systemctl status libvirtd`
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<ydalton> i don't know if dnf sets the symlinks needed automatically
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<holiday> loaded but disabled
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<ydalton> enable it and start it
<holiday> ok i enabled it
<holiday> preset is still on disable
<ydalton> preset is the default behavior
<holiday> and when opening the VM manager its the same error
<ydalton> enabling only makes it start on bootup
<ydalton> you need to start it now
<holiday> ohh okok
<holiday> making progress
<holiday> it connected now
<holiday> yep seems to work
<holiday> thanksss
<ydalton> nice
<ydalton> just make sure when you want to make a vm it doesn't complain kvm is disabled
<holiday> ok will try once the iso is done downloading
<ydalton> nah just click on "create a new virtual machine" and it should complain or not
<ydalton> also, does it ask for your password when starting virt-manager?
<holiday> yeah
<holiday> seems fine
<ydalton> that's not the desired behavior
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<jzz_> can you somehow run a x86 VM fast on asahi, without qemu? like rosetta2, fexemu, microvm stuff + vmware?
<holiday> jzz_: yeah
<holiday> altough pretty complicated, i managed to only install steam
<ydalton> yes you can
<jzz_> yeah i know that, but i meant a real VM which runs x86 windows for example
<ydalton> lol, too late
<jzz_> like just use standard linux vmware to run a x86 windows vm, but on apple silicion with fexemu or something for the x86 part
<holiday> ydalton: hihi
<ydalton> fexemu is for userspace x86 emulation
<jzz_> holiday: this microvm is just for 4K pages, it still runs arm linux inside, which executes fexemu for proton x86
<jzz_> ydalton: and userspace is "not enough" for a full x86 vm?
<ydalton> it's pretty performance heavy to run an entire OS with emulation, especially something like windows
<ydalton> jzz_: userspace as in applications, like running linux x86_64 applications on asahi
<jzz_> yeah, but i did not know that vmware needed some kernel parts for their VMs, i thought this is userspace only as well
<jzz_> would it be possible to optimize qemu VMs with fexemu/rosetta2 stuff to make it faster? it works at the moment, but it is very slow
<ydalton> rosetta is a userspace x86 emulator as well
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<ydalton> what i think you want is to run a full x86 VM
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<jzz_> yes, but UTM/qemu is slow - i wonder if it would be possible to optimize performance if qemu used some stuff like the x86 memorymaps embedded in apple silicion or something, which rosetta2 or fexemu use
<jzz_> though i discovered you can improve performance by removing cores from the VM or increasing the jit cache, i will try that :)
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<jzz_> if anybody knows additional tricks, please tell me :)
<holiday2> lmao my linux crashed and now waypaper is nowhere to be found
<ydalton> again, you're emulating a whole ass operating system, it's gonna be heavy as opposed to running rosetta or FEXBash while only virtualize one application or so
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<ydalton> i think i found a bug in qemu/libvirt: when i add a sound device to a virtual machine in virt-manager it bricks my virtual machine without exception: removing it doesn't help so i need to remove and redo the VM
<ydalton> can anyone replicate this issue?
<ydalton> for more clarification, when i add a sound device, and restart the VM, i am dropped to a UEFI shell saying "no mappings found". even booting into the boot menu it says there are no boot devices, just the EFI shell
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<ar> sounds like a libvirt bug
<ar> ydalton: try looking at the vm xml definition before and after
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<ydalton> it looks like it adds these two pcie devices
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<ydalton> heh, removing those lines fixed my config. i'll see if i can remove those pci devices and keep the sound dev
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<Tramtrist> heres hoping fedora39 releases on the 7th 🤞
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<kidplayer666> Meh. Why wait for official release when you can be living on the testing branch
<kidplayer666> lol
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<jb1277976> Anyone know how to shrink system data? It's using 249gb
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<Tramtrist> sad... light developer orphaned the project :/
<Tramtrist> still works well on Asahi though
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<jb1277976> Anyone know what permissive mode is? I rebooted and now I'm at the screen in a terminal
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<jb1277976> PaulFertser: so I can create a username and go through the steps? I read up on it
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<jb1277976> Basically Apple is letting us boot up asahni
<jb1277976> Asahi*
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<j`ey> yup no jail breaking or exploits or anything like that
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<jb1277976> yea. i ran the pacman -Syu and core.db failed to update. im following the guide here https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Installing-Gentoo-with-LiveCD
<jb1277976> im connected to the net via iwd and can ping out
<jb1277976> i instaleld the minimal
<j`ey> could be the alarm servers again..
<jb1277976> hmm
<jb1277976> im googlling
<j`ey> try a different mirror maybe
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<jb1277976> the mirrors where commented out 0_o
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<jb1277976> is this an alarm thing my network keeps dropping connection yet i can ping google.com
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<jb1277976> This is fustrating
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<ydalton> theoretically, once asahi has support for dp alt mode and the like, will i be able to connect two monitors into my m2 macbook air? since there are two thunderbolt ports in it
<ChaosPrincess> no
<ydalton> apple's website says you can only plug in one monitor, but is there any reason why this is the case?
<ChaosPrincess> only 2 display controllers and one is permanently connected to internal screen
<ydalton> oh
<ydalton> so the m1 mac mini has 3 display controllers? one for hdmi and two for the two thunderbolt ports?
<janneg> that has yet to be determined. it could be possible to route dcp to one of the type-c ports like on the m2 mac mini
<ChaosPrincess> no, still 2
<ChaosPrincess> one of them may or may not be permanently connected to hdmi, other goes to either tb port
<janneg> no, the m1 mac mini has 2 display controllers, obne is permanently routed to hdmi
<ChaosPrincess> m2 mac mini has also two, but there all of them are routable to either of 3 ports
<ydalton> oh, apple says the mac mini only supports two monitors
<ydalton> yep, so i guess the mac mini's thunderbolt ports can't be both used for video simultaneously
<ydalton> possibly
<ChaosPrincess> on m2 they can
<janneg> not on the m1 mac mini. they can be both used on the m2 mac mini when the hdmi port is not used
<ydalton> so on the m2 mac mini one of the display controllers can be either on the hdmi port or the thunderbolt ports
<ydalton> but not on the mac mini
<ydalton> m1
<ChaosPrincess> yes
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<ydalton> interesting, will be looking forward to when dp alt mode drops
<ydalton> but hold on, isn't dp alt mode a thing already on m1n1?
<sven> no
<ydalton> that was hdmi out i think
<sven> or, well, maybe I pushed that dpaltmode.py at some point but that only works on t8103 with my display :D
<ydalton> as far as i understand it, the hdmi out on m2 mac mini is nothing like that on the m1 mac mini
<ydalton> and only recently it was possible to get hdmi out working on those models
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<karpouzi> any asahi folks at the hackday conference?
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<Tramtrist> oh so uhh.. krunvm doesnt work in sway...
<Tramtrist> that explains that i guess
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<j`ey> Tramtrist: the reason (from janne_g) is that sway doesnt implement v3 of the xdg_wm_shell protocol
<Tramtrist> hopefully it comes in time then
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