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<Tramtrist>
will speakersafetyd work without systemd .. ?
<Tramtrist>
should probably have a look at the code myself i suppose
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<chadmed>
Tramtrist: im going to write an openrc init script for it at some point
<chadmed>
one of the design goals was to make it a properly behaved daemon on its own so itll be like 15 lines of shell
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<jb1277976>
Guys how do I see what https://alx.sh actually uses or what is inside it ? If I click the link it redirects me to the main website if I curl then it downloads stuff
<ivabus__>
Hi, after an unsuccessful attempt to install Asahi (overflowing /System/Volumes/iSCPreboot), running the script alx.sh/cleanbp, and attempts to upgrade to 14.1 (I didn't notice, it was available before I tried to install Asahi) my MacBook Air J413 started randomly rebooting during the macOS update (while "Downloading macOS Sonoma 14.1", the crash log says about the SEP panic). Can I do something to it fix it?
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<ivabus__>
And it also says "Firmware type: UNKNOWN SEPOS" in the crash log (https://clck.ru/36NXcM)
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<ivabus>
Note: I was able to successfully install Fedora Asahi on the same system yesterday
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<aliciadevlinder>
hi! open looking for ways to help out :-) have been following for a while but now I have time to devote
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<Tramtrist>
thanks chadmed .. look forward to it :)
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<holiday>
does qemu work on asahi?
<j`ey>
yep
<holiday>
it constantly throws me an error
<holiday>
good to know its not bcs of asahi
<j`ey>
if you provide the command you run, we can help hopefully
<holiday>
j`ey: well i ran "sudo dnf install @virtualization" to install qemu and then i just select the "virtual machine manager" from the launchpad
<holiday>
there it says "qemu/kvm not connected"
<j`ey>
oh.. that might be using libvirt
<holiday>
and when trying to connect it shows me this: "Unable to connect to libvirt qemu:///system.
<holiday>
Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/virtqemud-sock': No such file or directory
<holiday>
Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system
<holiday>
Traceback (most recent call last):
<holiday>
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 923, in _do_open
<holiday>
self._backend.open(cb, data)
<holiday>
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 171, in open
<holiday>
conn = libvirt.openAuth(self._open_uri,
<holiday>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<holiday>
File "/usr/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 147, in openAuth
<jzz_>
yeah i know that, but i meant a real VM which runs x86 windows for example
<ydalton>
lol, too late
<jzz_>
like just use standard linux vmware to run a x86 windows vm, but on apple silicion with fexemu or something for the x86 part
<holiday>
ydalton: hihi
<ydalton>
fexemu is for userspace x86 emulation
<jzz_>
holiday: this microvm is just for 4K pages, it still runs arm linux inside, which executes fexemu for proton x86
<jzz_>
ydalton: and userspace is "not enough" for a full x86 vm?
<ydalton>
it's pretty performance heavy to run an entire OS with emulation, especially something like windows
<ydalton>
jzz_: userspace as in applications, like running linux x86_64 applications on asahi
<jzz_>
yeah, but i did not know that vmware needed some kernel parts for their VMs, i thought this is userspace only as well
<jzz_>
would it be possible to optimize qemu VMs with fexemu/rosetta2 stuff to make it faster? it works at the moment, but it is very slow
<ydalton>
rosetta is a userspace x86 emulator as well
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<ydalton>
what i think you want is to run a full x86 VM
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<jzz_>
yes, but UTM/qemu is slow - i wonder if it would be possible to optimize performance if qemu used some stuff like the x86 memorymaps embedded in apple silicion or something, which rosetta2 or fexemu use
<jzz_>
though i discovered you can improve performance by removing cores from the VM or increasing the jit cache, i will try that :)
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<jzz_>
if anybody knows additional tricks, please tell me :)
<holiday2>
lmao my linux crashed and now waypaper is nowhere to be found
<ydalton>
again, you're emulating a whole ass operating system, it's gonna be heavy as opposed to running rosetta or FEXBash while only virtualize one application or so
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<ydalton>
i think i found a bug in qemu/libvirt: when i add a sound device to a virtual machine in virt-manager it bricks my virtual machine without exception: removing it doesn't help so i need to remove and redo the VM
<ydalton>
can anyone replicate this issue?
<ydalton>
for more clarification, when i add a sound device, and restart the VM, i am dropped to a UEFI shell saying "no mappings found". even booting into the boot menu it says there are no boot devices, just the EFI shell
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<ar>
sounds like a libvirt bug
<ar>
ydalton: try looking at the vm xml definition before and after
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<jb1277976>
im connected to the net via iwd and can ping out
<jb1277976>
i instaleld the minimal
<j`ey>
could be the alarm servers again..
<jb1277976>
hmm
<jb1277976>
im googlling
<j`ey>
try a different mirror maybe
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<jb1277976>
the mirrors where commented out 0_o
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<jb1277976>
is this an alarm thing my network keeps dropping connection yet i can ping google.com
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<jb1277976>
This is fustrating
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<ydalton>
theoretically, once asahi has support for dp alt mode and the like, will i be able to connect two monitors into my m2 macbook air? since there are two thunderbolt ports in it
<ChaosPrincess>
no
<ydalton>
apple's website says you can only plug in one monitor, but is there any reason why this is the case?
<ChaosPrincess>
only 2 display controllers and one is permanently connected to internal screen
<ydalton>
oh
<ydalton>
so the m1 mac mini has 3 display controllers? one for hdmi and two for the two thunderbolt ports?
<janneg>
that has yet to be determined. it could be possible to route dcp to one of the type-c ports like on the m2 mac mini
<ChaosPrincess>
no, still 2
<ChaosPrincess>
one of them may or may not be permanently connected to hdmi, other goes to either tb port
<janneg>
no, the m1 mac mini has 2 display controllers, obne is permanently routed to hdmi
<ChaosPrincess>
m2 mac mini has also two, but there all of them are routable to either of 3 ports
<ydalton>
oh, apple says the mac mini only supports two monitors
<ydalton>
yep, so i guess the mac mini's thunderbolt ports can't be both used for video simultaneously
<ydalton>
possibly
<ChaosPrincess>
on m2 they can
<janneg>
not on the m1 mac mini. they can be both used on the m2 mac mini when the hdmi port is not used
<ydalton>
so on the m2 mac mini one of the display controllers can be either on the hdmi port or the thunderbolt ports
<ydalton>
but not on the mac mini
<ydalton>
m1
<ChaosPrincess>
yes
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<ydalton>
interesting, will be looking forward to when dp alt mode drops
<ydalton>
but hold on, isn't dp alt mode a thing already on m1n1?
<sven>
no
<ydalton>
that was hdmi out i think
<sven>
or, well, maybe I pushed that dpaltmode.py at some point but that only works on t8103 with my display :D
<ydalton>
as far as i understand it, the hdmi out on m2 mac mini is nothing like that on the m1 mac mini
<ydalton>
and only recently it was possible to get hdmi out working on those models
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<karpouzi>
any asahi folks at the hackday conference?
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<Tramtrist>
oh so uhh.. krunvm doesnt work in sway...
<Tramtrist>
that explains that i guess
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<j`ey>
Tramtrist: the reason (from janne_g) is that sway doesnt implement v3 of the xdg_wm_shell protocol
<Tramtrist>
hopefully it comes in time then
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